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[Closed045]

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While I can understand that many detox regimens recommend not engaging in masturbation or ejaculation of any kind, that would only be good up until a certain point. Like any other organs in the body, the penis and genitals function on a "use it or lose it" principle. If you've been porn [and ejaculation] free for more than a few weeks, I'd suggest doing some type of Stop and Start type of exercise as soon as you are able to.

The pelvic floor issue may not be totally unrelated to porn abuse (some men involuntarily kegel or tug their penises in unhealthy manners during such sessions), so resting that area would be vital. Besides the many suggestions outlined on this forum for such treatments, doing light, controlled stretches should help to alleviate PC issues.

Yeah , I have never gone a few weeks without masturbation or porn so I definitely think that is needed for my recovery. I will then take your advice regarding a light EQ based routine after some rest - considering I haven't been able to beat porn induced ED and addiction yet hopefully once I do I will get positive PIs and can progress.


Once again appreciate the reply, wasn't sure if this was the best place to post due to your Me Coach programme but I wanted your specific opinion on the matter.

 

[Big Al]

Yeah , I have never gone a few weeks without masturbation or porn so I definitely think that is needed for my recovery. I will then take your advice regarding a light EQ based routine after some rest - considering I haven't been able to beat porn induced ED and addiction yet hopefully once I do I will get positive PIs and can progress.


Once again appreciate the reply, wasn't sure if this was the best place to post due to your Me Coach programme but I wanted your specific opinion on the matter.

Glad to help

 

[Big Al]

Okay Big Al, here's the link!

https://www.pegym.com/forums/penile-anomalies-injuries/73683-introducing-hard-corona-glans.html

Please check it out when you have a moment or two. Thanks

Thanks for this informative link!

Something that's noticeable among zealous trainees is that they commonly injure themselves by using maximal force when kegeling. This can also induce pelvic floor issues and "hard flaccids", and the effect can be very noticeable in the glans as that's usually the last part of the penis to fully inflate in a maximal erection.

 

[Nilkki]

Hey Big Al!

what do you think about 1 day on 3 days off training schedule for girth? 1 intense workout and 3 full days of rest and repeat. what do you think?

 

[Big Al]

Hey Big Al!

what do you think about 1 day on 3 days off training schedule for girth? 1 intense workout and 3 full days of rest and repeat. what do you think?

That depends on what you're doing in addition to girth work. If you're doing only girth work, you might be able to train a bit more frequently than if you were doing a full routine.

 

[Jay1983]

Thanks for this informative link!

Something that's noticeable among zealous trainees is that they commonly injure themselves ky using maximal force when kegeling. This can also induce pelvic floor issues and "hard flaccids", and the effect can be very noticeable in the glans as that's usually the last part of the penis to fully inflate in a maximal erection.

I suffered from HF symptoms last year when I originally started PE(Jan 2013), in my CC's and Pelvic Floor, but not my glans. The HF symptoms that I've been dealing with off and on for oh I don't know 8 months about has just been in my corona. Really strange! I mean, it's really strange that I didn't end up with HF symptoms all over because I was kegeling really long and hard, well hard enough to at least rupture blood vessels in my corona.

This is all still too bizarre for me to absorb, but at least I know my Ballooning technique really was lethal, although it was heavenly at the same time.

:doh:

 

[Big Al]

I suffered from HF symptoms last year when I originally started PE(Jan 2013), in my CC's and Pelvic Floor, but not my glans. The HF symptoms that I've been dealing with off and on for oh I don't know 8 months about has just been in my corona. Really strange! I mean, it's really strange that I didn't end up with HF symptoms all over because I was kegeling really long and hard, well hard enough to at least rupture blood vessels in my corona.

This is all still too bizarre for me to absorb, but at least I know my Ballooning technique really was lethal, although it was heavenly at the same time.

:doh:

I don't want to preempt any medical assessment, but you may have strained the valves that lead to the glans.

Have you had any tests done. Are you taking anything (supplement-wise) for this issue?

 

[Jay1983]

I don't want to preempt any medical assessment, but you may have strained the valves that lead to the glans.

Have you had any tests done. Are you taking anything (supplement-wise) for this issue?

Haven't had any tests done but I think I'll be visiting a doctor soon because it's aggravating me again today for some reason. Only supplements I'm on is probiotics; acidophilus.

 

[Big Al]

Haven't had any tests done but I think I'll be visiting a doctor soon because it's aggravating me again today for some reason. Only supplements I'm on is probiotics; acidophilus.

You might want to look into "Butcher's Broom", as it's been shown to help with venous issues.

 

[Jay1983]

You might want to look into "Butcher's Broom", as it's been shown to help with venous issues.

Thanks Big Al! I'm gonna get some of that Butchers Broom and get L-Arginine back in my system again. Seems all this started periodically happening when I quit taking the L-Arginine last year, although it may have zero correlation.

 

[Big Al]

Thanks Big Al! I'm gonna get some of that Butchers Broom and get L-Arginine back in my system again. Seems all this started periodically happening when I quit taking the L-Arginine last year, although it may have zero correlation.

Was there any other incident that may have coincided with that time that might have contributed to the problem? Sometimes, when a trainee drops something from their training regimen they often add something else to compensate.

 

[Jay1983]

Was there any other incident that may have coincided with that time that might have contributed to the problem? Sometimes, when a trainee drops something from their training regimen they often add something else to compensate.

Not that I can recall. Maybe my GF's teeth... lol. I don't think I ever dropped anything from my training regimen. If anything I think I just really overtrained my pelvic floor with that heavy Ballooning. All is fixable in my mind, it's just gonna take time and light therapy.

 

[Big Al]

Not that I can recall. Maybe my GF's teeth... lol. I don't think I ever dropped anything from my training regimen. If anything I think I just really overtrained my pelvic floor with that heavy Ballooning. All is fixable in my mind, it's just gonna take time and light therapy.

Please keep us posted as to any changes either way.

 

[photon]

Hey Big Al!

I have found that I am a VERY hard gainer. I have been doing various forms of PE through the years including manual exercises, wearing a penimaster, pumping, clamping, and for the last 8 months, hanging (BiB), with no real gains to show for it!

Could it be that it is simply impossible for some people to obtain gains?

Also, what is your view on warm ups? How necessary is it to warm up before a PE session, and exactly how warm do you have to be? Will a heating pad (dry heat) be enough or does it HAVE TO be the moist heat from a warm towel/rice sock? Thanks!

 

[Big Al]

Hey Big Al!

I have found that I am a VERY hard gainer. I have been doing various forms of PE through the years including manual exercises, wearing a penimaster, pumping, clamping, and for the last 8 months, hanging (BiB), with no real gains to show for it!

Could it be that it is simply impossible for some people to obtain gains?

The penis, just like your muscles or any other soft tissue, should grow with the right type of training (stress). There might be some type of weak link in your training that could use further attention. I've found that, in most cases, the weak link is often a lack of EQ.

Also, what is your view on warm ups? How necessary is it to warm up before a PE session, and exactly how warm do you have to be? Will a heating pad (dry heat) be enough or does it HAVE TO be the moist heat from a warm towel/rice sock? Thanks!

I highly recommend warming up. It'll make your workout more productive and it should help you to avoid injuries. Just a few degrees above body temp for 5-7 minutes should be sufficient. You should be stretching and massaging during the warm up as well.

Either dry or moist should work- as long as the tissues are warmed thoroughly. If I had to recommend one though, it would be moist heat.

 

[photon]

Thanks for the reply Big Al. It's not very often you get an opportunity to ask one of the true PE moguls questions, and I hope that you dont mind if I ask another question?

My penis is kind of shaped like a cone, being almost 6.5" EG down at the base, and a bit shy of 5" EG just below the glands. I also have pretty small hands for a guy. This makes it difficult for me to jelq effectively, because I cant make my thumb and index finger meet when forming the OK grip down at the base. To remedy this, I have ordered a "power jelqing device" cheap on ebay today. I was wondering what you think about these devices? Can they produce gains? It's the kind with 2 foamed rolls that you press together. Im sure you know the kind.

Thanks!

 

[Big Al]

Thanks for the reply Big Al. It's not very often you get an opportunity to ask one of the true PE moguls questions, and I hope that you dont mind if I ask another question?

My penis is kind of shaped like a cone, being almost 6.5" EG down at the base, and a bit shy of 5" EG just below the glands. I also have pretty small hands for a guy. This makes it difficult for me to jelq effectively, because I cant make my thumb and index finger meet when forming the OK grip down at the base. To remedy this, I have ordered a "power jelqing device" cheap on ebay today. I was wondering what you think about these devices? Can they produce gains? It's the kind with 2 foamed rolls that you press together. Im sure you know the kind.

Thanks!

You're welcome

I think the these devices can be useful in cases where you're looking to get more intensity or if you have issues with manual jelqing. In your case, the jelq would be a good exercise to give you a more balanced shape.

 

[photon]

Big Al
Again, thank you. Since no one else seem to take advantage of this great opportunity, I hope you dont mind if I ask some more things. Please tell me if you think it gets too much. There are so many things I want to know about PE. Some part of me thinks that I can only make it work if I understand how it works.

I would like to ask you a little bit about stretching.

1. Do you believe intense and relatively short stretching sessions, like with BiB hanging where you hang for 20 min sets and with as heavy weights as you can without pain, or do you believe that long and light stretches with devices like penis extenders is better for length gains?

2. I am currently using the bib hanger, and I would like to know if more always is better? What I mean is, some days I may have a lot of extra time on my hands. Would hanging 8 sets instead of 3 sets be better, or is there some kind of limit that you should not exceed?

3. Is good EQ a reliable way to tell if you are doing it right when hanging? If I understand correctly, the "BiB way" is to hang heavy enough to become fatigued. But fatigue greatly will also affect your EQ. Should I aim for many and heavy sets to become fatigued or few and lighter sets and get a better EQ?

In my world, the heavy way seems more logical. I mean, if you pull on something hard and long enough, it should eventually stretch and become longer, but I am really confused about all this. It seems like heavy hanging is a way to FORCE your penis to grow, and light stretching/jelqing is more of a way to persuade and encourage your penis to grow.

4. Would a combination of ADS use and heavy hanging be a good approach, because in my brain it seems to be the ultimate way to gain? The way I figure is that first I damage the tissue with the heavy weights, then I keep the penis stretched while it heals, making it grow a little. Does it work this way?

 

[Big Al]

Big Al
Again, thank you. Since no one else seem to take advantage of this great opportunity, I hope you dont mind if I ask some more things. Please tell me if you think it gets too much. There are so many things I want to know about PE. Some part of me thinks that I can only make it work if I understand how it works.

I would like to ask you a little bit about stretching.

1. Do you believe intense and relatively short stretching sessions, like with BiB hanging where you hang for 20 min sets and with as heavy weights as you can without pain, or do you believe that long and light stretches with devices like penis extenders is better for length gains?

Statistically, I think the best results will come from higher intensity/lower volume work. That being said, you have to find out what works best for you through trial and error.

2. I am currently using the bib hanger, and I would like to know if more always is better? What I mean is, some days I may have a lot of extra time on my hands. Would hanging 8 sets instead of 3 sets be better, or is there some kind of limit that you should not exceed?

More is not always better. You grow from rest- where you're able to recuperate and overcompensate (grow). Doing too much too soon can cause you to peak too early in your cycle, overtrain, or even cause injury.

3. Is good EQ a reliable way to tell if you are doing it right when hanging? If I understand correctly, the "BiB way" is to hang heavy enough to become fatigued. But fatigue greatly will also affect your EQ. Should I aim for many and heavy sets to become fatigued or few and lighter sets and get a better EQ?

After a workout, it's expected that your penis will be tired for perhaps up to an hour after your training. It's overall EQ that is perhaps one of the best indicators that your training is going well. Still, it's possible to have great EQ and not be stressing your penis enough for growth. You'll have to experiment to find that "sweet spot" where you're doing enough training to elicit growth and increased EQ.

In my world, the heavy way seems more logical. I mean, if you pull on something hard and long enough, it should eventually stretch and become longer, but I am really confused about all this. It seems like heavy hanging is a way to FORCE your penis to grow, and light stretching/jelqing is more of a way to persuade and encourage your penis to grow.

Each method has its benefits, and sometimes a combination of the two can yield the best results. As stated above though, you'd best attempt the higher intensity approach in your initial sessions. This is assuming that you're already past the basic phase of strengthening and conditioning.

4. Would a combination of ADS use and heavy hanging be a good approach, because in my brain it seems to be the ultimate way to gain? The way I figure is that first I damage the tissue with the heavy weights, then I keep the penis stretched while it heals, making it grow a little. Does it work this way?

A lot of PE is still in the theoretical stages. I'm not too fond of the word "damage", as many will interpret that to mean that pain should be involved.

I like to compare PE more to the way a gymnast or yogist trains.

Here are a few articles/posts that may be useful in your research:

Myofascial Unlocking of the Penis, Reverse Kegels, Erection Quality Loss, & More: Ask the Experts

https://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theory-science-forum/6111-pe-cellular-level.html

The Precise Mechanism of the Penis Enlargement Response through Manual and Mechanical Intervention.

 

[tryingtogetbigger]

Hey Big Al, another question from me *sigh*.

Are there any other beginner programs on MECoach or alternative beginner routine than the Basic program (the one in the other sticky)?

I feel I will have troubles trying to do the oriental massage exercise part of the program, and that is like the main part of the program, so I feel like I don't wanna try that program ( or at least that exercise) right now.
Thanks again, I'll try not to ask anymore questions, as they are all kinda stupid, and i feel bad I even have to ask.