MadYogi's PE Log

[madyogi]

Lingering Observations from the Weekend
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I've really been riding high since Saturday night. It's amazing what a single electric sex session can do for your overall attitude. It's especially important for married folk, I s'pect. If you're single and have open options, a dud here or there doesn't kill you, because there's always the thought of some other option presenting itself. When you're married, a great night of sex (particularly after a span of lackluster or nonexistent sex), reminds one that the chemistry is real, and that the possibility for mind-blowing sex is always there. For the gift of finding a woman with whom I have virtually limitless chemistry I am truly grateful.

I've also been reflecting on the notion that PE training is really about improving my ability to catalyze that chemistry when it counts. It's about making sure I'm ready to bring my best when the opportunity presents itself. While my EQ issues linger, they aren't as much of a problem as they were 2-3 weeks ago. This weekend was proof of that. I'm now talking about regaining that last 5-10%, as opposed to 20-25%. No reason to think that won't continue to improve.

The high I got from the sex was also really notable. I mean, I always enjoy sex with my wife, but after she had this piv/g-spot orgasm Saturday, with me pumping like a porn star and telling her to cum on my cock, I was FLYING! After she finished I was so juiced, I didn't even want to push for my own orgasm. I could have kept going, and she would have been happy to help; but I don't think it would have felt any better honestly. It felt good to soak in those endorphins. I might have fallen asleep faster had I gotten off, but who knows what that's worth ....

I really do think she noticed the size difference. She didn't say that explicitly, and it could honestly just be due to the fact that was our first "late-night" sex in a while where I got super hard. "Late-night" usually involves drinking beer, and it means she is more likely to be vocal. All that said, she typically isn't vocal without being prompted. For example, if I prompt with something like "Do you like it when I fuck you?" or something she will respond in kind. But this time, as she was getting closer to O, and I was pumping faster and faster, she volunteered, "Keep fucking me!" numerous times. There was also an unprovoked "Oh, wow," when I went all the way in with my Pivot on. I'm at least telling myself she's starting to notice a difference.

There have also been reminders of other work that needs to be done (on my part and hers) to raise the temperature of the chemistry between us. These reminders are related to what I see as the true power of monogamy. A monogamous relationship is about working together to help both partners become the best version of themselves they can. This reminds me there are other ways I can empower her to embody her better self. And as we both work toward this in domains outside sexuality, that only serves to make our sexuality better when the time to express that presents itself.

One last observation is that as I have gained size through PE, my belief in my own dirty talk is now ... believable. I used to ask things like "Do you like how my big, hard cock feels in your pussy?" but I was really only saying the words to "be hot" or turn us both on more, without really believing the "big" part. Saturday, similar things were said on numerous occasions, and I actually believe it now. I feel it now. And that's no small thing

 

[solidlength]

Nice! Completely agree with what you said about electric married sex and also how vocals improve after a few drinks. Usually any time we try sober 'dirty talk' it just sounds silly but get a drink in us and it really adds a new level.

 

[madyogi]

5/11 -- 2 Edging Sessions at 10-15 minutes each, with 50 squeezes in each session

The first session was with no porn and no climax. For the second session, I put on some porn and let my erection come on slowly, basically ballooning my guy to about 85% erection. 85% had been about my max since my EQ issues came up a few weeks ago. It was lower than that at times during these past couple weeks, even with porn. Anyway, once I got to 85%, I started edging and squeezing. At some point my guy finally got to what I am used to calling 100% EQ. I cycled up and down to PONR a few times, then just decided to climax (it had been 5 days since last climax). It was fantastic and had some real distance to it!

This was the first session I really felt like I achieved 100% EQ since intercourse on 4/19, so I'm quite encouraged by that!

 

[VaultPic]

Glad to hear it! I agree once you finally feel big, it brings a whole other level of confidence to the table.

 

[madyogi]

5/12 -- It's basically been a day off. I did have a nice hard-on while still in bed after my wife and son went downstairs, so I ballooned/edged for 10 minutes, no squeezing, just testing EQ and working the arousal scale. EQ was great. I always hesitate to say 100%, but it was 90-95% easily. I posted on this elsewhere, but the real proof of my EQ recovery was watching my guy hover ~1" above my lower abdomen while lying on my back with no kegel involved, just super engorged!

 

[madyogi]

5/13 -- 10 minute warmup, 30 minutes of edging with multiple rounds of squeezes and climax at the end

 

[madyogi]

As of today I plan to start layering length work back into my program. I have finally recovered the EQ I remember and expect. Time to full arousal has also come down, and I am able to maintain an erection longer without constant direct stimulation. Reading through [FONT=&quot]8x5Goalzz[/FONT] reminded me of what my program used to look like, and of the gains I used to see. I gained 1" BPEL in my first 2.5 months primarily using manual stretches, jelqs, and edging. I took a week off, and tried to pick up where I was, but that was not enough rest. Whether TGC theory figures into this (smooth muscle becoming a limiting factor) or not remains to be seen, but laying off the heavy stretching and jelqing for couple extra weeks has certainly helped.

That said, length gains have stopped. Given that my EQ is back, I'm going to shoot for length gains again. I'm won't be quite as length focused as I was in the last cycle, but I definitely want to give it a whirl again and see if I can get close my earlier success. I'm less than 1 inch from my BPEL goal. Time for another serious assault!

 

[madyogi]

5/14 -- 9:45am - 10:40am

• 10 minute warmup
• Manual Stretch Sequence 2 (MMS-2) x 2
  • helicopter twirls
  • 30-sec holds in all directions (up, up-left, up-right, down, down-left, down-right)
  • 100 side-to-sides
• 300 jelqs
• 5 mins uli
• 5 mins edging (classy porn, no climax)
• 5 minute warmdown

Stress-Strain : Pre-BPFSL - 7.125", Post-BPFSL - 7.3125", 2.6% Strain

This is a great workout for me at this point. I can get it done in just under an hour, and it hits all the high points that were working for me last cycle. It's a little less heavy on stretching. Feels amazing. I imagine this will be a staple workout for me during this cycle.

 

[madyogi]

5/15 -- 10:20am - 11:10am

• 10 minute warmup
• Manual Stretch Sequence 2 (MMS-2) x 2
  • helicopter twirls
  • 30-sec holds in all directions (up, up-left, up-right, down, down-left, down-right)
  • 100 side-to-sides
• 300 jelqs
• 15 mins edging (with 150 erect squeezes, 25 at a time, alternating hands, with edging in between, no climax)

Couldn't get good stress-strain measurements because my wife came upstairs right as I was about to start warmdown. That said, this was the first session with consistent BPEL over 7" (5 measurements during edging/squeezing). My standard is to have two consecutive sessions with multiple measurements over the next increment before changing the sig, so that will have to wait, but it does appear I'm back on the gain train!

 

[madyogi]

5/16 -- Edged for about 10 minutes, no climax

Today will be a day off. Woke up probably 3 times over night and into the morning with erection. I typically have morning wood, but 3 is a lot. I haven't climaxed since Monday; perhaps that has an effect? Not convinced yet, but open to the possibility.

My son really let us sleep in today. Both the wife and I slept until 9:30. They got up and went downstairs, and low and behold I got another erection. So I ballooned for a few minutes to get EQ to max, then edged a few more minutes before getting up. Great way to start the day. My son is likely to head to my mother's house for an overnight, so I've got my fingers crossed for some love making!

 

[madyogi]

5/17 -- 10:45am - 11:40am

• 10 minute warmup
• Manual Stretch Sequence 2 (MMS-2) x 2
  • helicopter twirls
  • 30-sec holds in all directions (up, up-left, up-right, down, down-left, down-right)
  • 100 side-to-sides
  
  
• 300 jelqs
• 15 mins edging (with 150 erect squeezes, 25 at a time, alternating hands, with edging in between, with climax)

No sex for the MadYogi this weekend. Damn Corona got in the way again. One of my wife's coworker's husbands came down with fever, bodyache, shortness of breath, etc late last week. He got tested Friday, but hasn't heard. Tested negative for flu, so we know it's not that. Anyway, we aren't too worried, since my wife hasn't actually been physically with her coworker in a while. That said, she did go pick up some stuff from the girl's house last week, so we're all on the "better safe than sorry train," at least until the test results come back. So, my son was here with us, which takes the probability of sex from 85% to 5% real quick-like.

Good workout this morning. Multiple measurements at or above 7". Tomorrow is another workout day, with a bit more privacy, as my wife will be taking my son to therapy, so I'll measure again then, and expect to increment the sig at that point. It'll be exciting to hit 7" officially!

 

[madyogi]

5/18 -- 9:25am - 10:15am

• 10 minute warmup
• Manual Stretch Sequence 2 (MMS-2) x 2
  • helicopter twirls
  • 30-sec holds in all directions (up, up-left, up-right, down, down-left, down-right)
  • 100 side-to-sides
• 325 jelqs
• 10 mins edging (with 150 erect squeezes, 25 at a time, alternating hands, with edging in between, no climax)

Another great workout. I was planning to get more jelqs in, but I had to quit early, so I stopped the jelqs to get in some edging and do a measurement.

Multiple measurements at or just above 7" at max EQ today, so I'm officially bumping the sig! Super glad to have hit 7". I need about another .25" to be as big as my wife's favorite glass dildo, then another .25" to hit my goal.

My wife's coworker's husband turned out to be negative for the virus, so I think my son is going out to my mother-in-law's tomorrow night ... possibly. Whatever the case, tomorrow is likely to be an off day, except for the possibility of sex. 2 on and 1 off is working well so far this cycle. I'm tempted to do more to accelerate gains, but I'm trying to ease back into things as well.

 

[Johnnypvt]

Amazing gains and congrats so far!

Your current of 7x5.5 is basically my goal. This account is pretty old (I think 5 years?) but I never did PE all that consistently or seriously. I visited this site again, starting last week out of it randomly popping in my mind because of corona boredom. Read some posts and to see if there's been anything new or different. I notice there have been more faster results than I remember. Your log especially has been a great read and inspiration. I've been pretty motivated and reread all the basics to relearn or rather, learn it properly since I didn't do so back then and just went straight to an extender device which I dreaded.

If you don't mind me asking, I have a few questions regarding your early regiments.
You started on 2/6/2020 and 7 weeks later your workouts have been basically around 50+ minutes. Which your first post explains you worked your way up. Can you tell us what your beginner's routine was like? Like did you just do a beginners routine like the p90 for a week or two and increased the stretches and jelqing over time?

Myself having started on 15/05/2020 and properly committing to it this time, my routine is currently just a simple short 5m warmup > 5m stretch > 10m jelq > 5m warmdown. I also do kegels right after and then more leisurely kegels and reverse kegels throughout the day. I'm thinking of already increasing the workout times a little by the second week. How did you work your way up?

Did you already do your four-day intensity wave program in your first 7 weeks?

Do you kegel at your jelqs or just regular jelqing?

Again congrats on your gains and thank you for sharing your experience with us all!

 

[madyogi]

Thanks for the kind words, Johnny!

You started on 2/6/2020 and 7 weeks later your workouts have been basically around 50+ minutes. Which your first post explains you worked your way up. Can you tell us what your beginner's routine was like? Like did you just do a beginners routine like the p90 for a week or two and increased the stretches and jelqing over time?

Yes, I did just what you said. I have a spreadsheet of those initial workouts. I'll try to attach it to this thread for reference. Basically just what you're doing, but adding volume week to week until I got to 20m stretching and 40m jelqing. So, you're at 5m and 10m respectively. If you're feeling good about this after another week, I'd add 5 mins to each. A week or two later add 5 more minutes, etc.

Did you already do your four-day intensity wave program in your first 7 weeks?

No, I started playing with that idea after I started this progress log. I do think the design has merit, but to be honest I haven't gone back to that for two reasons: 1) I find it easier to manage workouts that are under an hour, and 2) I really pushed the limits under that paradigm, and given my gains so far I'm not quite in such a hurry, so I'm trying to find a happy middle ground where I don't risk losing as much EQ in the process of getting gains.

So now I am doing 2 days on 1 day off, with a modified Med Intensity day as my go to workout. Under this paradigm I get ~600 jelqs over three days (200/day), whereas I was getting something like 900 over four days (225/day) on the intensity design. Not that much different when you average it out. This is easier for me to manage at the moment, but I'm sure interested to hear about others giving the waving intensity paradigm a go.

Do you kegel at your jelqs or just regular jelqing?

No. I tend to kegel separately. I do wet jelqing with coconut oil at 40-70% erection level. I do kegel sometimes while squeezing or doing ULI toward the end of my workouts.

Again congrats on your gains and thank you for sharing your experience with us all!

Thank you, sir! I never thought it possible, but here I am. It's been fun and energizing. Just hope I get to my goal sooner than later. I'm really looking forward to just being on a cementing/maintenance routine, instead of always riding the balance between adding volume to get more gains and backing off to avoid injury or reduced EQ.

 

[madyogi]

For anyone interested, see below for a link to the spreadsheet I used to track my first seven weeks as I built up my conditioning (I also attached it as a jpg, but I think the link might work better).

Initial Training Log

All work/observations after this can be found here on this log.

Note : I was using porn and climaxing regularly in the beginning. I have dramatically reduced both, and will have more to say on that in a future post ... still working out my thoughts/conclusions.

 

[Johnnypvt]

Thank you for the answers and spreadsheet!

What did you start with in terms of weekly training and rest days?
I see that looking at your spreadsheet you didn't start with the commonly beginner's recommended 5days on 2days off, or 2days on 1day off.

Currently have been on 2 days on 1 day off myself.

Do you think the edging aided in your gains?

Hope you don't mind the questions.

 

[madyogi]

Thank you for the answers and spreadsheet!

No worries.

What did you start with in terms of weekly training and rest days?
I see that looking at your spreadsheet you didn't start with the commonly beginner's recommended 5days on 2days off, or 2days on 1day off.

I think I was mostly concerned with watching PIs, taking advantage of privacy, and conditioning/adding volume. I don't think I was thinking rigidly about on/off days in the early weeks.

Currently have been on 2 days on 1 day off myself.

That is working fine for me at the moment. We'll see if my gains continue. That schedule certainly works well for many.

Do you think the edging aided in your gains?

I honestly don't know if there was any direct impact. But for me, edging has been the most pleasurable part of my routines, and having that 10-15+ minutes to look forward to at the end is very helpful. Insofar as edging has made my workouts more fun, it probably impacted my willingness to put in the work, which ultimately impacted my gains. Plus, edging is great for stamina and performance when the time comes to get it on. More recently I've just been edging/ballooning at odd times, with some erect squeezing thrown in there. I do think edging and generally having more erections leads to ... having more erections. This is a topic Incogneeetoe has explored in depth. I'd suggest reading through his log as well. Lots of gold in there.

Hope you don't mind the questions.

Don't mind at all. Happy to help!

 

[madyogi]

5/20 -- 11:15am - 12:15pm

• 10 minute warmup
• Manual Stretch Sequence 2 (MMS-2) x 2
  • helicopter twirls
  • 30-sec holds in all directions (up, up-left, up-right, down, down-left, down-right)
  • 100 side-to-sides
• 300 jelqs
• 10 mins edging (with 150 erect squeezes, 25 at a time, alternating hands, with edging in between, with climax)

I am really liking this workout. It's simple. I can make it as short or long as I like by adding or subtracting jelqs. And it seems to have me back to gaining length. I did climax today. First time since Sunday, and I thought I might get sex last night since my son wasn't home, but no dice. I'm committed to twice weekly, as more frequent ejaculation seems to negatively impact my EQ. I'll have more to say about porn use and ejaculation frequency soon.

 

[madyogi]

Today (5/21) was an "okay" workout. It was interrupted due to lack of privacy. Mostly followed the recent pattern, but it wasn't a full session.

There's a lot going on for me this weekend, with projects around the house and whatnot. Probably won't have much time/energy for PE. I'm thinking that's okay, though, because EQ is lagging slightly, so a 4-day break will probably do me some good.

 

[8x5Goalzz]

Hey I wanted to ask you about your EQ loss that you had before since I think I'm going through the same thing. What do you think caused it and how did you fix it? I have this issue right now where I can't actually ejaculate. I can just get it to 95% EQ which takes a lot of effort. I haven't ejaculated in like a week.

Do you think this is cause for concern? I guess it started right when I doubled my jelqing volume. I really seem to be growing faster since my BPFSL is higher than ever.