Only morons who have an agenda would make such accusations. This is precisely why the main stream media cannot be trusted to be objective or unbiased. You guys have no need to worry about Trump. You should be worrying about Putin! Trump may be the one who end's up saving your bacon (as the United States has done more than once before!). Because it's Putin who has his eyes set on Europe! Wise UP!!!
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Only morons who have an agenda would make such accusations. This is precisely why the main stream media cannot be trusted to be objective or unbiased. You guys have no need to worry about Trump. You should be worrying about Putin! Trump may be the one who end's up saving your bacon (as the United States has done more than once before!). Because it's Putin who has his eyes set on Europe! Wise UP!!!
I agree totally, this is the typical Liberal socialist response ALWAYS! Bow up and criticize and challenge the ones that Will protect them and mean them no harm (and they know it) and try to pacify and cowtow to the enemies who are the real threat....it's a way to try to win the favor of the ones they truly fear. N.Korea, Iran, Russia and China are all swell but Trump may blow up Europe...
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Ummm I thought we were going to pick on the candidates and not the candidate followers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tamora
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Yep...Europe really worries about Putin! lol
What makes you think I'm a Liberal socialist? Because I'm from the UK?
What exactly makes you right by being against Trump?
What is in your opinion the alternative? Would you vote for bernie or crooked killary?
I agree with Marlon and Denny too.
Tamora, I like you, but with all your respect, honestly as Americans we don't give a single flying fuck about what Europe thinks about us, our politics, candidates, etc. To start an international conflict based on conspiracy theories of what a candidate could do, is absolutely retarded in my opinion but again, we all have our own opinions.
I never see a thread here in which Americans start digging into international affairs and domestic European problems. Why? Because its not our business. I couldn't care less what Europeans do, and whatever they do or say in their land I respect that. Freedom of speech. Even here, every foreigner can say whatever they want about America. I don't care, they are entitled to their opinion. My opinion about the subject: Pathetic.
Tamora, I like you, but with all your respect, honestly as Americans we don't give a single flying fuck about what Europe thinks about us, our politics, candidates, etc. To start an international conflict based on conspiracy theories of what a candidate could do, is absolutely retarded in my opinion but again, we all have our own opinions.
I never see a thread here in which Americans start digging into international affairs and domestic European problems. Why? Because its not our business. I couldn't care less what Europeans do, and whatever they do or say in their land I respect that. Freedom of speech. Even here, every foreigner can say whatever they want about America. I don't care, they are entitled to their opinion. My opinion about the subject: Pathetic.
Tamora
Retired Super Moderator, Member of the Month Aug
I love you too Jacko! Well...sort of...maybe!
Do you honestly think I give much credence to a candidate for POTUS talking about nuclear weapons pointed towards Europe? That kind of statement should send a clear warning to those that care.
You talk about freedom of speech, yet in the same breath state that Americans don't discuss international affairs and domestic European problems because it's none of your business. That is a contradiction in terms.
Charlie Hebdo chose to express their freedom of speech and paid for it by their lives, yet freedom of speech survives and thrives even more so in Europe regardless. It's called democracy.
I have every right to challenge and debate your views...without prejudice. That's what makes our countries great.
Cavalier
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Good advice here! Jackxxx, chill out a little. As much as you want to think America first, we cannot take on this world, we need our allies across the pond.
I agree. But the fact that Americans don't comment in detail about International affairs because is none of their business, is in fact freedom of speech. The beauty of true freedom is that you decide what you say, when you say it and who do you talk about. All that is up to you, not an entity like in this case a government.
Charlie Hebdo DID NOT have freedom of speech. Why? simple. Because he was killed. Because his government failed in guaranteeing his freedom of speech as a right granted by a constitution. If that happened to us, we would be the next day erasing from the map the country responsible for those acts. Well, not really under hussein obama, but It is a matter of principles. The rule of law.
Yup, however we all need to contribute with our fair share. I agree with Trump when he exposes all the spending we do to support the United Nations compared to what other countries do. And when theres an international conflict, we are the ones putting hundreds of thousands of troops on the ground and moving the heavy artillery. I believe it should be fair for everybody, and equally contribute to the union for the benefit of everybody.
We we should do that.
Can we talk about how Donald Trump is leveraged to the tune of over $100 Million to Deutche Bank... Who has had run in with Us legislators and was found to be manipulating global interest rates. The leverage against Teump is disqualifying for other positions in government i.e. Cabinet positions. That is a lot of leverage on some considering Teump isn't worth nearly what he claims. Not to mention one of his failed deals of $600 Million with DB cost him $40 Million due to his personal guarantee of a portion of it.
Can we discuss how Donald Trump is likely worth far far less than he claims? He claims $10+ Billion with income greater than $500million. Forbes gives him all the benefit of the doubt and ends up with a number far less in the 3 Billion range. Some experts question if he is even worth a Billion. He refuses, fo no legitimate reason, to not release his tax returns. The last guy hat spoke about Trumps wealth ten years ago estimates his net worth at $250 Million in 2005 after seeing his tax returns. Trump sued the guy for libel and it was dismissed though he got a gag order. He grossly overstated his wealth, on his FEC financial disclosure he claims his golf courses are worth $450+ Million but they real estimates worth by experts is closer to a tenth of that. He claims his income numbers sans expenses. Think about this, if he is worth so much and has as much income as he claims then why did he need to start liquidating assets to self fund the paltry amount he did for the primary. Why did company bankruptcies cost him personal assets like his Yaht? The only evidence we have of Trump's worth in the Billions is his word, not one can prove he is worth and all evidence leads us to believe he isn't worth but a fraction of his claims.
Can we discuss how some of his ideas and policy positions literally do not make sense nor are even possible. An example, when he discusses using the Trade Deficit with Mexico to fund the Wall it ignores what a Trade Deficit is and that most of that deficit is between private and not governmental entities and isn't money that can be withheld. His tax plan that yields a $1.2 Trillion/year shortfall? His idea of printing money causing hyperinflation to devalue the dollar and then buying up US debt at a bargain t reduce our national debt with no concern for crashing the Us economy as well as the global economy? The man refuses to discuss policy in a serious manner, everytime he does it proves he has little knowledge of policy and foreign affairs. How about him saying global warming is a hoax created by the Chinese while simultaneously requesting the ability to build a Seawal to stop lad erosion caused by climate change and citing climate change as a reason. How about his abortion stances... All four of them he had in a week? How about his ideas for universal healthcare he held and voiced until he adopted the partline and repeal Obamacare mantra.
Can we discuss his made up facts that have no tether to reality? His $8Billion wall? The 40% unemployment? His claims of spending cuts in programs that will yield a savigs ten times their operating budget? How about the fact he claims to have seen on tv Muslims in Jersey cheering when the towers fell despite it never being aired on tv ever? How about his claim that there is no drought in CA and it's just the gov withholding water? His claims to be a genius? His unfounded claims of philanthropy?
Can we discuss how he said he wouldn't take nuking Europe off the table? How he wants Japan and South Korea to have nuclear weapons? How he didn't know what the nuclear triad is? How we wants us to take the oil in Iraq from ISIS when only 15% of the oil in Iraq is in ISIS control and it's a nonviable idea that no military expert endorses? How he has super secret plans that would get rid of ISIS quickly, but they need to be secret so he can't tell anyone? How about his compliments of Kim Jong Un's killing of rivals? Of his admiration for Putin? His wanting to ban an entire religion? His father's KKK ties? His lost court cases for discrimination for renting? His use of illegal foreign labor? How about when he said he was his own foreign policy advisor and he got his information from the MSM not experts? How about the intelligence agents that are terrified of Trump being clued in on classified information?
Can we discuss his utter disrespect for women? His using of vets as pawns? His disdain for the first amendment? His chastising and treatment of the media? His affinity for blatantly lying about what he said and even refusing to admit he said things when confronted with video? His junevile behavior? His late night tweet temper tantrums? How about his fraudulent "university"? How about his NY mob ties? How about his serial adultering? How about his incestual infatuation with his daughter? His racism and dog whistling? His refusal to denounce the KKK and David Duke? How about his elemary school vocabulary and speaking ability? His pathological lying? How about how he says "I'm not going to say X" then proceeds to say X including unfounded conspiracy theories. How about his involvement in the debunked birthed movement?
How about his business practices? His penchant for welching on debts? On sueing small vendors out of business? His track record of repeatedly failed ideas and hotels and casinos? His abuse of bankruptcy laws? How about his tax dodging in NY with his golf course? How about his reputation as a loser, poor net worth, and as abad bet among hedge funders? The fact many major businessmen and banks refuse to work with him? The number of testimonials from vendors that got screwed by him? How about the 3500 lawsuits he has been part of.
The bad part, this is an imcomplete list, I did this from memory in a stream of consciousness. Reality is Trump is a pathetic pathological lying manchild that grossly inflates his worth and success. Trump is the opposite of Presidential and wholly unfit to be Commander in Chief and the Leader of the FreeWorld. If Trump represents America, I would be ashamed to keep calling myself one.
This poll speak for itself. And even though it is a microscopic representation of a whole society, the same results we are seeing across the nation. This is a penis enlargement board. People from all backgrounds, social levels, education levels, economic classes, are here. Trump wins. In universities, Trump wins. In the middle class, Trump wins. Upper class, Trump wins. Poor class, Im not sure but poor in this country is pretty much an option. Within the hispanic community, Trump wins. Within the black community, Trump wins.
Crooked Killary is doomed, and she will end up in jail.
Crooked Killary is doomed, and she will end up in jail.
I am Canadian, but if I were an American I would vote for Donald Trump.
Crooked Hilary Clinton, I am not even convinced will be the Democratic nominee due to her possible arrest.
Crooked Hilary Clinton, I am not even convinced will be the Democratic nominee due to her possible arrest.
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Actually, I'm not a Democrat. I'm left leaning, I'm progressive, but I'm not a Democrat.
Some of that is subjective, i.e. His clildlike behavior, but every claim I can back up. Want to start with the numbers and facts I used? Pick where to start.
in retrospect, I left out a wealth of other stuff like his desire to kill innocent family members of terrorists, his claims that he'll issue illegal orders, his use for expanded torture etc.
How about that when he was CEO of his Hotel empire it never reported making money as a public company and quadrupled its debt and he leveraged it to the hilt... Before its second bankruptcy.
The man is a fraud and pathological.
You realize he was only winning among many of those demographics against other Republicans in a Primary? That is not the same as a general election against a Democrat. All current polling that is available shows Trump losing among Women and all minority's by large margins. He is also losing among young people. His Steongest demographics are whites, specifically white men, even more specifically uneducated poor white men.
Please, got any evidence to support those claims? Anything at all? Or are you just exercising your right to free speech to spout nonsense on the Internet?
Also, this poll matters little as it is not scientific, it isn't even written in a useable manner. All it tells you is that on a Penis Enlargement site among a very small sample people choose Trump over Clinton. It's usefulness doesn't extent beyond that.
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Tamora
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Zman...please edit the derogatory comment about grammar. Please let's not get into personal comments against one another and spoil the thread.
Thanks for your co-operation.
Thanks for your co-operation.
