The AP90 (Anti-Porn)

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Nice Idea the no fap part with the purpose to increase the desire to find real sex...but I have 2 questions (because the idea is tempting me)

what if you (work, busy time etc) don't have and find partner for weeks? you need to "release!"

but, most important, you can't train stamina and if you find a partner the first times you risk PE due to many reasons (more libido, long abstinence, no stamina training)..


how you deal with these 2 factors?


btw congratulation!



day 11 here

You are on day 11;) congrats so far. BTW around where you are is the hardest in the entire process. The initial motivation and sense of purpose that comes with the 1st one week is fading and the flat line is kicking in.

It is around also at this stage that the brain panics, it starts to come to the realization that you just might be serious with dropping your HUGE harem of women you used to have lots of sex with. Of course these women are virtual but to the brain they have always been real so a sense of loss kicks in and depression starts to creep.

The good news though is that it is simply a stage - a depressing stage and in 3-4 weeks it will be over and you will enter another phase. Stay strong and conquer the days.

For me what helped was posting in this forum. I started posting here: https://www.pegym.com/forums/progress-forum/39629-ap90-anti-porn-749.html#post1386883 and I quickly realized that the easiest way for me to succeed was by encouraging others along.

To the NOFAP90, it really is optional with the AP90. In my experience it really made the challenge super hard - which is what I wanted. For me, when it is really, really hard, I feel more challenged, more engaged. The NOFap90 added that difficulty that I wanted. After my first 7 days of NoFap, I failed. I felt so defeated and quickly learnt that for it to work, I needed women - girls. And so I focused my energy and desire there and in no time, I had lots and lots of girls.

You ask
what if you (work, busy time etc) don't have and find partner for weeks? you need to "release!"
i work and barely have time. So when and where do I meet girls? On my way to work, on the streets, on the elevator, when shopping, when walking - i.e. when doing my daily routine. When do I fuck them? In the evening of weekdays after work, on Friday night, entire Saturday and Sunday.

I realized that for the NoFap90 to work for me, I needed to replace it with VapFap90. I don't remember the last time I touched my dick with the intention of pleasing myself. Before I used to do it so often. Now I don't, I cant, I never will. And so when I want a release, I get women to do that - there is no other way available to me.

On stamina training, personally I don't have a problem with stamina so the dick works just as it should. I exercise and eat vegan diet (which is a synonym for always-horny-diet) with lots and lots of fruits. I also take zinc supplements sublingually which i learnt that just by itself causes me to erect without even thinking about sex.

I also take sublingual B12 as it is a requirement in vegan diet. My observation of the effect B12 on me personally is that it kills daydreams 100% If I stay a week without taking B12, I frequently find my mind wondering and building castles in the air. If I take a B12 pill, the castles disappear in just a matter of minutes - I like that.

On Pre-E, I wrote here about 2-3 weeks ago that I had my first Pre-E in years and I loved it. It happened in a new threesome with two really hot 18-year old's and we did it without a condom. There hotness and tightness got really hold of me and after fucking one for like 60 seconds and switching to the other, I could barely last 10 strokes and I pulled it out and watched it cum involuntarily. I didn't touch it and I was able to continue after a few minutes break.

If you fear for Pre-E, then the more reason to stamina train with actual girls.
 

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nice post the one you linked!

I agree and see common patterns I used to have or I'm dealing with.

I've already done periods without porn..even 2-3 months..and without "struggle" or decide to don't watch it..simply, I was busy with a lot of other stuffs.


The main reasons I want to stop are
-"restore" my brain
-spend all that time by doing something else.


the reasons why I gave up ( maybe other people can relate too an work on it) were mostly due to:
boring time...and a pc in front of me.

I don't have the need of porn, but the need of "virtual" excitement.
When you start to have erections in 0,0001 second in front of a pc, and in real life, tooks you way more time..It means your brain find the first way like "home" and the second one, that implies a relation with another human being , is the unconfortable one. I want to restore the horny feeling with real life situations (not that I'm a lost case ahah but I remember when I used to have erections from nowhere just by watching a girl walking..Now, when I still have it, it's more thanks to pe, but no a"mental" thing)


for example, during edging or pe I only use immagination without problems and with top eq


usually , during AP, you start go back and jerk off with light stuff. even videos with no nude and then escalates really quickly and you're back to hot material.

so, to me, is not really an AP...but a No fap to everything that is not my immagination.


the benefits from my previous AP journeys where more excitement with less hot material...but, it was always something "virtual"..so a partial brain restore! that is not my goall!
I mean, having erection with censored movies sex scenes is already a goal to someone that is porn addicted and need to watch the most hardocre scenes to get an erection ... but I'm doing that to use my "sexual- brain" like mother nature decided we have to use it: not with a pc!
 

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You are on day 11;) congrats so far. BTW around where you are is the hardest in the entire process. The initial motivation and sense of purpose that comes with the 1st one week is fading and the flat line is kicking in.

It is around also at this stage that the brain panics, it starts to come to the realization that you just might be serious with dropping your HUGE harem of women you used to have lots of sex with. Of course these women are virtual but to the brain they have always been real so a sense of loss kicks in and depression starts to creep.

The good news though is that it is simply a stage - a depressing stage and in 3-4 weeks it will be over and you will enter another phase. Stay strong and conquer the days.

For me what helped was posting in this forum. I started posting here: https://www.pegym.com/forums/progress-forum/39629-ap90-anti-porn-749.html#post1386883 and I quickly realized that the easiest way for me to succeed was by encouraging others along.

To the NOFAP90, it really is optional with the AP90. In my experience it really made the challenge super hard - which is what I wanted. For me, when it is really, really hard, I feel more challenged, more engaged. The NOFap90 added that difficulty that I wanted. After my first 7 days of NoFap, I failed. I felt so defeated and quickly learnt that for it to work, I needed women - girls. And so I focused my energy and desire there and in no time, I had lots and lots of girls.

You ask i work and barely have time. So when and where do I meet girls? On my way to work, on the streets, on the elevator, when shopping, when walking - i.e. when doing my daily routine. When do I fuck them? In the evening of weekdays after work, on Friday night, entire Saturday and Sunday.

I realized that for the NoFap90 to work for me, I needed to replace it with VapFap90. I don't remember the last time I touched my dick with the intention of pleasing myself. Before I used to do it so often. Now I don't, I cant, I never will. And so when I want a release, I get women to do that - there is no other way available to me.

On stamina training, personally I don't have a problem with stamina so the dick works just as it should. I exercise and eat vegan diet (which is a synonym for always-horny-diet) with lots and lots of fruits. I also take zinc supplements sublingually which i learnt that just by itself causes me to erect without even thinking about sex.

I also take sublingual B12 as it is a requirement in vegan diet. My observation of the effect B12 on me personally is that it kills daydreams 100% If I stay a week without taking B12, I frequently find my mind wondering and building castles in the air. If I take a B12 pill, the castles disappear in just a matter of minutes - I like that.

On Pre-E, I wrote here about 2-3 weeks ago that I had my first Pre-E in years and I loved it. It happened in a new threesome with two really hot 18-year old's and we did it without a condom. There hotness and tightness got really hold of me and after fucking one for like 60 seconds and switching to the other, I could barely last 10 strokes and I pulled it out and watched it cum involuntarily. I didn't touch it and I was able to continue after a few minutes break.

If you fear for Pre-E, then the more reason to stamina train with actual girls.

niiice, motivation :). I have to invest more energy in finding some girls. I have to take opportunities as they come or create them myself :)
I am also a part of this AP90 with lezoteli and getinbig.
 

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its been over 120 days since porn its been good havent watched porn but have looked at nudes
 

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I’m trying to figure out if I should start PE again or should If I do No Fap/Porn for a while first.

Any opinions?
 

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Joining the AP movement. Need to reset myself and get back to a good state with my erections.
 

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awesome!

At this point do you still have some kind of temptations? or is this ap just part of your life?

have you noticed big changes?
 

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awesome!

At this point do you still have some kind of temptations? or is this ap just part of your life?

have you noticed big changes?

Oh yes...as a man, you will ALWAYS have temptations. They do not go away. They linger in the background. I did the AP90 simply because I had a porn binge due to frustration. By God's grace, I have stayed clean from hardcore porn. The big changes? I would say being aware of when I am starting to go down the wrong path and running away from bad choices.
 

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5 days porn free, haven't even thought about it. In all honestly, I've been to busy but in times of stress I'm typically looking at it and releasing some tension. Haven't done either.
 
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I'm on it! I will never watch porn again. Day 1!
 

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Still porn free. It's only in times of boredom that I feel a slight weakness in thought toward porn. Overall though I don't even think about it.
 

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Day 5 no fap, day 334 no porn.

Joining the NO FAP group for real now. Quitting porn has been the best decision I've ever made, but I've had a harder time quitting fapping. It's time to make it to the next level. I still find myself not pursuing girls as much as I should because I still fap. I will try my best to come back here every day and update as everyone else.
 

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Making another attempt at this. Tried back in late August, early September and i think the longest i made it was 7 days.

I’m just so so motivated with PE right now that i just want to be able to get rock hard 10/10 EQ nearly every time, in any position, any where. As of now there’s only certain positions where my EQ is really at its max and i need a lot of foreplay...like a girl would lol.

So here we go.

DAY 2
 

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Hi All,

A little bit about me. After years in a Sexless relationship I am now single but realise the porn abuse has come at a cost of my sexual health.

Have not had the opportunity to try with a woman but I am unable to maintain a solid erection just using my mind and touch. So I'm keen to sort this out!

NO PORN and NO FAP for 21days thus far.

I know THE REBOOT will take time but I also don't want to pass up the opportunity to have sex!

I have a spoken to my GP and he has given me a script for Viagra.

I'm not about to embark on a mission of debauchery but I'm keen to have sex a few times and if it leads to a regular partner that would be great.

What are you guys views of using Viagra in a limited way while my mind and body Reboot?

Thanks