The AP90 (Anti-Porn)

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I have decided to give myself a setback as I am deciding from here on out, I will not kid myself anymore.
I need to abstain from all types of porn, whether I am stimulating myself to it or not. It will be difficult but it's the most effective way to overcome this. Wish me luck guys.
 

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I have decided to give myself a setback as I am deciding from here on out, I will not kid myself anymore.
I need to abstain from all types of porn, whether I am stimulating myself to it or not. It will be difficult but it's the most effective way to overcome this. Wish me luck guys.

Goodluck! It's hard but it'll be well worth it. Just think, "is this very temporary satisfaction that I'm going to regret really better than the long term satisfaction of overcoming this and being porn free with a better sex life."
 

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Couldn't agree more. In the early days for me it was a case of actively resisting temptation with encouragement to myself and willpower. Then I think over time, like I said in my last post, you stop seeing porn for the temptation it once was and it starts to become a caricature. I haven't watched any since, but now I feel like it would be like watching a weird puppet show. (to make it clear, I'm not aroused by puppets!!) There comes a turning point where real, live girls stop being viewed as "not as hot" as pornstars, and instead start to take shape and presence when you're around them, and become much more attractive. I think for me it happened subconsciously whereas for The Iron it's a conscious thing, but I think it's a part of the rewire process whether proactive or reactive. It's a good feeling and a good concept raised by The Iron.

Also, well done for your impressive No PMO streak man!

I read a few posts ago of your work place situation and how it is affecting your social life - sorry for that. For me, my social life has gone through the roof since I started the AP90 AND NoFap90. I must say that NoFap90 is super hard and was unachievable for me. To make it work I had to find real life human beings to have sex with - I over did it. On a week I do sleep with 4-5 different girls. This is way too much than I myself am happy with and for long I have been wishing for a relationship. The weekends - all weekends since I think week 3 or so have really been super social for me. Every weekend, including this one past yesterday has been filled with threesomes and over three girls and a few guys in my house. This weekend I actually had two parties with two different sets of girls - Friday Evening to MidDay Saturday, and then the whole of Sunday. A while ago, I would never have imagined such a thing possible but now this is the case.

On your quest for social life, just be careful on what you wish for. In a man's life i would say that the biggest risk and challenge that a man faces is the relationship thing - that is women. If you write it off fully, life becomes meaningless. You overdo it and life becomes useless too. You do it moderately and the risk of heartbreak, boredom, divorce, financial ruin and disappointment still lurk within the corner. It is the path of man - and woman too.

Good luck with your endeavor.
 

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Day 16 PMO-free for me. It hasn't been too hard yet, but I've never gone more than 3 weeks without since I started. I'd either give in to my depression wanting to feel good, lose sight of the purpose and give up, or just "test" to see if everything was still working. This time I don't just *want* to quit; I have *decided* to quit. At least until the reboot phases are complete.

Reading up on the brain chemistry behind PMO abuse, it's clear to me a successful reboot will require as close as possible to zero activation of the existing reward pathways. That means being aware of arousal, fantasies and urges the moment they arise, and either dismissing them or finding distractions.

The longer those thoughts fester in your mind, the more credence you give them. The more thoughts and emotions you continue to associate with PMO, the longer its remnants will linger. Even if you win the debate this time, having engaged in it validates relapse as an option, and you'll have to repeat the same debate next time.

Treat your lust like an internet troll. Do not feed it. Do not engage it. Dismiss it not with debate, but by ignoring it until it withers and dies.

You are no longer someone who PMOs.

You are on the right path dear... I can sense you will make it AP90
 

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I read a few posts ago of your work place situation and how it is affecting your social life - sorry for that. For me, my social life has gone through the roof since I started the AP90 AND NoFap90. I must say that NoFap90 is super hard and was unachievable for me. To make it work I had to find real life human beings to have sex with - I over did it. On a week I do sleep with 4-5 different girls. This is way too much than I myself am happy with and for long I have been wishing for a relationship. The weekends - all weekends since I think week 3 or so have really been super social for me. Every weekend, including this one past yesterday has been filled with threesomes and over three girls and a few guys in my house. This weekend I actually had two parties with two different sets of girls - Friday Evening to MidDay Saturday, and then the whole of Sunday. A while ago, I would never have imagined such a thing possible but now this is the case.

On your quest for social life, just be careful on what you wish for. In a man's life i would say that the biggest risk and challenge that a man faces is the relationship thing - that is women. If you write it off fully, life becomes meaningless. You overdo it and life becomes useless too. You do it moderately and the risk of heartbreak, boredom, divorce, financial ruin and disappointment still lurk within the corner. It is the path of man - and woman too.

Good luck with your endeavor.


Thank you for the insight. Maybe I should clarify a bit - my social life struggles because of the working pattern I'm on... but even then, I still have a much more active social life now than when I had all the time in the world to see people/girls, but spent it watching porn every day :)

This last month has just highlighted that my working pattern, not my own attitudes, has been the main factor in stunting my social life. As soon as I started working 9-5 and within walking distance of work, my social life began taking off. This is good, because it shows that I am ready to be more social, and it's not internal factors that are holding me up - it's external ones... ones which I'll be working on changing soon.

I take your word of caution on board though - stick to 2 parties with girls per weekend, no more! ;)

Cheers
 

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Yesterday I was in curious mode and started to look for questionable things. Not hardcore porn. Still, I need to be careful. I keep flirting with triggers. I need to come up with a solution.
 

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On a week I do sleep with 4-5 different girls. This is way too much than I myself am happy with and for long I have been wishing for a relationship. The weekends - all weekends since I think week 3 or so have really been super social for me. Every weekend, including this one past yesterday has been filled with threesomes and over three girls and a few guys in my house. This weekend I actually had two parties with two different sets of girls - Friday Evening to MidDay Saturday, and then the whole of Sunday. A while ago, I would never have imagined such a thing possible but now this is the case.

I can't even imagine... it's been 7 months without even a hug or kiss from a girl! I really hope I find some drive to be more social at some point. I think it's better to overdo it for a while than to never be able do it at all.
 

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I really hope I find some drive to be more social at some point
The time is now, the place is here, the life is this. But just like wealth and money, it is exiting but only upto a point. After which, there is diminishing returns.
 

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Yesterday I was in curious mode and started to look for questionable things. Not hardcore porn. Still, I need to be careful. I keep flirting with triggers. I need to come up with a solution.
Hi OJ, congrats for the almost 365! Only 100 days to go. On the solution to the trigger, I think you may have to work on the inner mentality. For now your brain is convinced that there is something out there that you are missing. If you reverse this to reflect that indeed there is nothing that you are missing, then the triggers disappear completely. Again congrats, keep the fight!
 

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AP90? I don't know if I got 90 days yet but it feels like 9 years.

It was hard at first because I am a very amped, hype, hyper-sexual person. I need visual and physical stimulation. But I am glad I did AP90!!!!!!!!!!!!

AT FIRST my PE work outs suffered from not having enough EQ for girth work, but now I've broken all my BPEL and MEGD/BEG personal bests.

I do girth work outs less often now but it hasn't hurt my gains.

AP90__I am also more socially interactive with more groups now too. I am sure AP90 has at least a minor role in my social shifts.

Recap

Better gains
Better morning wood
Better social interaction
 
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By God's grace and help, I am doing well. I have been focusing on being a complete lover though edging, sperm retention (until lovemaking with the wife), and working on self.
 

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This week was so-so.

I try to rationalize in some areas such as viewing breasts, reading sexual excursions, going to Reddit to read about sexual experiences as not porn or even thinking that I could look at feminist porn or x-art because this is more "humane" porn. Then I started to think that this is no better than a opioid addict using methadone. While I love my sexual energy, I want to use it in a more productive and creative way than wasting my energy reading about other experiences and wishing I was them.
 

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While I love my sexual energy, I want to use it in a more productive and creative way than wasting my energy reading about other experiences and wishing I was them.

This weekend I had a tone of sexual 'experiences', you know the kind that you feel itched to say it out. I started typing about it and decided against it because it does not add value to others struggling with porn addiction. Anyway in brief I had Premature Ejaculation and I loved, loved it. The last time I had Pre-E was like 10 years ago. This time after a few strokes in the second girl's vagina I withdrew and came barely a minute in. I felt really great that I could cum that fast. Now the details and context is juicy but as I said telling the story doesn't help, plus I am also beginning to appreciate more that I might have substituted Porn Addiction with Sex Addiction which is a bad thing.

Oj, keep the struggle, work on your marriage. In the sexual market, all factors considered, marriage is the best option available.
 

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Hi Guys,

Just wanted to say I have found a lot of great/useful info in this thread and wanted to get some input on my specific situation. If this is too much to post as a reply please let me know!

I'm 23 and I had been PMOing for 10 years before my first real sexual partner. I found out I had porn-induced ED about 2 years ago when I first tried to sleep with a woman. I struggled to get an erection/feel aroused at all throughout foreplay, and once I was finally able to penetrate, I came within 15 seconds. Since then, I've quit watching porn and masturbating all together. I've had sex with multiple women over this past year, every single time I've struggled to achieve an erection (sometimes unable, and always came fairly quickly, lasting 1 minute at my best, and 3 pumps at my worst, which is the usual case). During this time I tried edging to combat my PRE-E to no avail, with my PIED not really improving. Fast forward to four months ago and I've "relapsed" and started viewing erotic photos and masturbating regularly for about a month until I realized I killed my sex drive and have since quit again. (Will never go back to porn) I was on about a month and a half streak of no masturbation/porn when I was able to have sex with a woman (whilst I was very drunk), lasting about a minute and achieving an erection without TOO much difficulty. I was also able to have sex again a week after that (rare for me again), much less drunk, struggling to achieve an erection and finishing in ~15 seconds.

My questions is, do I just need to abstain from porn/masturbation for an even longer period of time? As I have heard that some young guys who started on internet porn can take up to ~2 years to fully "recover" AND I also seemed to do OK after the month and of half of fully abstaining. Or should I start incorporating techniques to battle the PRE-E, I'm just worried that these will worsen my PIED.

Any info is greatly appreciated! :)