I'm M9 (M9ter) from Reddit's PE forum r/ajelqforyou, AMA (Ask Me Anything)

[M9ter]

Do you clamp over a girth band? I've only started clamping recently but if I do it over a girth band I don't have problems with it slipping.

Clamping is cool, but I'm losing erection while on it. I need to watch porn and masturbate to hold that erect. Doing that for 1 hour is nearly impossible. I don't know how others do clamp, i cannot find a way just to clamp it and my dick to stay on erect. No matter how i change the position of the clamp, over 1-2 minutes without stimulating it just goes down, as the clamp slides forward.

But before all that i was doing 3 days clamp 2x10 min and 1 day pump 2x10 min for 1 year. I still didn't see any results. U talk about stress + time, basically, something that is doing heavy work for hours. I'm pretty sure if I do hang out for hours every day i may see some results after 1 year, but i don't have that much private time. I can spare like 1 hour only.

Hey,

Sorry, tried replying yesterday and they were updating their servers. There are a few different types of clamping, so please see my remarks on clamping earlier in this post for some tips to increase pressure. Stick with the clamp, as its much faster than any pumping you can do if time is limited.

 

[M9ter]

So for guys that have had difficultly enlarging length, a width exercise like ulis , using a cable clamp or hands, first in the day then heavy hanging after say a smaller larger break? Or afterwards?

I've always heard in general length first and girth last if you're trying to gain length as girth can interfere with length gains.

Is the girth exercise expanding the tunica laterally required for the length expanding tunica verticle, did I get that correct?

I know pumping can work over time there's members here that have gained and it's taking quite a long time for them to do that however the day of my injury I pumped , then hung, and that could have possibly caused the injury so with all that edema that does not make sense.

Maybe start out with something like 5 or 5 minutes and maybe build up to 10 or something on clamping first time huh?

Since this seems like it's more for hard gainers so to speak with length wouldn't it work for everyone and make everyone's length increases come easier?

The reason I mentioned straight out hitting the tunica more than behind the cheeks doing lig stretch more is it the most gains I've made is while I was hanging straight out. It's something I'd like to continue doing and I just started it back up not too long ago. Does it make any sense that hanging straight out would produce faster length gains than BTC?

Hi,

Yes, so a brief girth routine can help with length progress. Growth occurs in the direction the stress is applied the most, meaning that if you only do 5 minutes of girth, no girth will be gained since it was both very brief and also because you switched to length for a much longer period. Do girth for an hour instead, and girth will begin to increase. Oh of course it will work for easy and hard gainers alike. You'll find many of the extender or hanger sales sites ship some form girth routine guide to be performed before wearing their device. Straight out in the erection you want the erection to be, maintaining an even and constant pull. Considerably more force than BTC, but less even than Shopping Bag Hanging or device for example.

 

[M9ter]

Hey m9
Can you give a good routine to follow. With days on and off and time under tension. I want both grith and length but as i read in jelqforyou you have said that first focus on the one wanted most(length for me). Plus is there a way to target flacid or it comes along.

Hey man..!

Yes, in general it best to start with length. What are your current stats and goals? Usually flaccid size will increase first, then erect will follow.

 

[PEispossible]

You'll find many of the extender or hanger sales sites ship some form girth routine guide to be performed before wearing their device. Straight out in the erection you want the erection to be, maintaining an even and constant pull. Considerably more force than BTC, but less even than Shopping Bag Hanging or device for example.

Ok. Straight out in the erection? We're discussing hanging straight out right?

 

[M9ter]

Ok. Straight out in the erection? We're discussing hanging straight out right?

Hi,

Yes, "hanging" or stretching straight out. It can be done with a pulley under a desk, etc. I designed the TNT system for that purpose as well.

 

[splinter3693]

Does hanging render the effects of an extender useless? Or can they both be used in tandem?
Is there a difference I use an ADS after hanging vs an extender?

 

[PEispossible]

Hi,

Yes, "hanging" or stretching straight out. It can be done with a pulley under a desk, etc. I designed the TNT system for that purpose as well.

I'm confused why you said " straight out in the erection"? Was that meant to be direction?

 

[ronaldohappy]

Can a bathmate bring benefits?

 

[Shahhs]

Hey man..!

Yes, in general it best to start with length. What are your current stats and goals? Usually flaccid size will increase first, then erect will follow.

6.5 Bp My life time goal is 8.5 bp(8 nbp)

 

[ROSS347]

Has your NPBEL grown?

 

[BigO]

I'm confused why you said " straight out in the erection"? Was that meant to be direction?

He did not say erection or direction.

Straight out hanging would be the direction you are hanging at.

 

[PEispossible]

Straight out in the erection you want the erection to be, maintaining an even and constant pull. Considerably more force than BTC, but less even than Shopping Bag Hanging or device for example.

If you scroll up you'll see it's in a paragraph we have been conversing about.

 

[bolacc]

Hey M9,
I think you mentioned on Reddit you have been through a jelqing injury. Did you also suffer from a numb shaft? How long did it take to recover?
Im suffering from an injury due to jelqing too erect. Do you have any advice for me please?

Thanks

 

[MojoRisin]

Hey,

Essentially you've hit a plateau, but there are ways to get beyond it. As I've said elsewhere on this AMA, incorporating some form of expansion routine used for girth will weaken the tunica and chambers and can greatly benefit your progress. Combining that practice with more time under tension can really help keep your PE journey going. Some vac hangers and extenders are designed to be worn for multiple hours if the tension is 10 lbs or less. Its generally a good idea to use the device for an hour, remove it to restore circulation, then reapply, You can do that for many hours if the weight is low. The higher the weight, the less time you can tolerate under stress usually. Also, the higher the weight, the greater the chance for injury. I've hung up to 45 lbs with the most powerful hanger available (max load 100+ lbs) and found it worked better as a shockloading method before discovering I didn't need near that level of weight to replicate BIB's success. His success was based on the time he wore the device, not the amount of weight. I've seen countless guys get 2" of length gains just from extending/light ADS/hanging for hours and using tissues weakening methods, so the practice I describe is well proven.

Hey M9, very informative so far.
I have a question regarding length vs girth and your advice to avoid manuals initially.

To preface, I got a phallosan forte a few months back, in the hope to gain some length before focusing on more girth related exercises.

At present im ~ 6.5 bpel and ~4.1-4.3 eg. I was using the medium sleeve and medium bell for the phalloson but the medium sleeve would often eventually slip due to lack of suction, medium sleeve slightly too big due to my small girth. (I should note that I seemed to gain ~ 0.25 in length with 2 weeks of consistent use, but which I didn't cement)

I started using a rubber band to keep the seal, which while effective, i didn't like.

So I decided it might be wise to gain a little bit of girth initially, using Big Al's jelq free routine with squeezes for girth.

Given the anecdotal evidence that length before girth is better, and your advice of devices before manual, would you see any issues with doing manual squeezes initially to gain a bit of girth so that I may start wearing the phallosan effectively?

And given you mentioned that it is beneficial to breakdown the tunica before length work, could doing manual girth routines before extended phallosan use actually be potentiative to the phallosan use? Or do u think all manual exercises (squeezing as well as stretching) will lead to thickening of the tunica and will thus potentially hinder length gains?

Hopefully I was concise enough. Your help would be greatly appreciated. This has been my main dilemma and sticking point the last few months.

 

[M9ter]

Hey M9, very informative so far.
I have a question regarding length vs girth and your advice to avoid manuals initially.

To preface, I got a phallosan forte a few months back, in the hope to gain some length before focusing on more girth related exercises.

At present im ~ 6.5 bpel and ~4.1-4.3 eg. I was using the medium sleeve and medium bell for the phalloson but the medium sleeve would often eventually slip due to lack of suction, medium sleeve slightly too big due to my small girth. (I should note that I seemed to gain ~ 0.25 in length with 2 weeks of consistent use, but which I didn't cement)

I started using a rubber band to keep the seal, which while effective, i didn't like.

So I decided it might be wise to gain a little bit of girth initially, using Big Al's jelq free routine with squeezes for girth.

Given the anecdotal evidence that length before girth is better, and your advice of devices before manual, would you see any issues with doing manual squeezes initially to gain a bit of girth so that I may start wearing the phallosan effectively?

And given you mentioned that it is beneficial to breakdown the tunica before length work, could doing manual girth routines before extended phallosan use actually be potentiative to the phallosan use? Or do u think all manual exercises (squeezing as well as stretching) will lead to thickening of the tunica and will thus potentially hinder length gains?

Hopefully I was concise enough. Your help would be greatly appreciated. This has been my main dilemma and sticking point the last few months.

Hey man,

Thank you..! From years of gaining length and coaching others, it became clear to me that the thinner or more "virgin" the shaft is, the faster and more likely growth will occur. So the thinner it is, the better off you are. That said, as most will tell you its a good idea to avoid manuals if you want more than the basic newbie inch that frankly anything can get you. Yes, tunica breakdown is excellent to add to your routine prior to stretching sessions. Combine the device use with some form of shockloading and you have a higher probability for success long term. Time under tension wins the race, as shown with long term extender wearers. The Phallosan (at least the model I bought a few years back) had about 6 lbs of pull max, so that's decent/ok force but must be worn for 2-3+ hours daily (no rest days) for best results. For ADS work, 4-10 lbs was the sweet spot. The vacuum cup of that model can cause blisters, so also look into the Wrecking Ball DIY found on the r/ajelqforyou WIKI page. About $100 to make and can be worn longer than any ADS on the market except the LG Hanger weighted rings (pricey) which have the same design. Hope that helps...! I can be reached on Reddit under the user name M9ter as well. Cheers...!

 

[MojoRisin]

Thanks for the advice M9, appreciate it.

Ultimately, if i had to choose between length or girth, girth is what I would really want. But given all the advice is to do length first, I don't want to shoot myself in the foot and start focusing on girth yet. Plus, I would be happy to gain from anywhere between 1-2 inches in length.

Does your advice for the avoidance of manuals, at first, apply to girth as well? Or can that simply not be avoided? Am I correct in thinking the only two really successful girth techniques would be manual squeezes and clamping?
In your opinion, what contributed most to your girth gains?

Thanks again, Mojo.

 

[M9ter]

Thanks for the advice M9, appreciate it.

Ultimately, if i had to choose between length or girth, girth is what I would really want. But given all the advice is to do length first, I don't want to shoot myself in the foot and start focusing on girth yet. Plus, I would be happy to gain from anywhere between 1-2 inches in length.

Does your advice for the avoidance of manuals, at first, apply to girth as well? Or can that simply not be avoided? Am I correct in thinking the only two really successful girth techniques would be manual squeezes and clamping?
In your opinion, what contributed most to your girth gains?

Thanks again, Mojo.

Hey,

Oh, glad to help..! If you just want 1" in length easily and also do girth...that's fine. So you could do girth before, during or after length. Want more than 1" of length and it just gets harder the thicker it gets. No, manuals means manual length work. Manual girthwork done just to break down the tissues is fine and won't add much of any girth due to how brief it is. Most of my girth stems from the formula of stress+time=growth. In essence, create pressure and dwell on it as long as you can for each session. So I replicate the process those suffering from Priapism experience to see their massive size. That means timed pressure holds, then clamping. Very effective with only the minimal time invested versus pumps for example. Hope that helps..!

 

[Shahhs]

Hey m9, can you give a length focus workout (manually) that is highly likely to work

 

[PEispossible]

Does this mean timed pressure holds or clamping before every hanging set?

Like sometimes no erection can be had. Moreover, in this case a picture or even porn vid is recommended for a brief time before the brief girth exercise?

 

[MojoRisin]

Hey,

Oh, glad to help..! If you just want 1" in length easily and also do girth...that's fine. So you could do girth before, during or after length. Want more than 1" of length and it just gets harder the thicker it gets. No, manuals means manual length work. Manual girthwork done just to break down the tissues is fine and won't add much of any girth due to how brief it is. Most of my girth stems from the formula of stress+time=growth. In essence, create pressure and dwell on it as long as you can for each session. So I replicate the process those suffering from Priapism experience to see their massive size. That means timed pressure holds, then clamping. Very effective with only the minimal time invested versus pumps for example. Hope that helps..!

Thanks M9, that's a big help.

I will start doing some squeezes in isolation to try to gain a minimal amount of girth so that I will be able to wear the phallosan without slippage.
Once I can wear it with confidence, I will switch to just the girth before phallosan purely to improve length gains. And only once I feel i have tapped that out, then I will try manuals.
Just for an idea when I start girth exercises in earnest, what sort of reps/sets were you doing with your timed squeezes? Were you holding the squeeze for minutes at a time?
Thanks again M9, you've been very helpful.
Mojo.