I'm M9 (M9ter) from Reddit's PE forum r/ajelqforyou, AMA (Ask Me Anything)

[biggerman]

Hello M9ter so with the Wrecking Ball if you are not trying to add length skin can you just place it at the glad and still see gains.

 

[M9ter]

Hey m9, can you give a length focus workout (manually) that is highly likely to work

HI,

Due to limited history on this site, please state your age and date of birth before I can make suggestions. Thank you,

 

[M9ter]

Does this mean timed pressure holds or clamping before every hanging set?

Like sometimes no erection can be had. Moreover, in this case a picture or even porn vid is recommended for a brief time before the brief girth exercise?

Hi,

Yes, to help maximize your length sessions. You'll find many length device sellers ship their products with some form of jelqing or girth routine for specifically this reason. Don't depend on erections, but kegels to fill the shaft. Been doing that since I stated PE since erections can become uncontrollable.

 

[M9ter]

Thanks M9, that's a big help.

I will start doing some squeezes in isolation to try to gain a minimal amount of girth so that I will be able to wear the phallosan without slippage.
Once I can wear it with confidence, I will switch to just the girth before phallosan purely to improve length gains. And only once I feel i have tapped that out, then I will try manuals.
Just for an idea when I start girth exercises in earnest, what sort of reps/sets were you doing with your timed squeezes? Were you holding the squeeze for minutes at a time?
Thanks again M9, you've been very helpful.
Mojo.

Hey,

Welcome...! Targeting girth for the hanger to work more effectively can work, as I did that to better wear hangers. Good..! Yes, no reps but create and "hold" that pressure...all the while feeling a stretching sensation that is often pinching and uncomfortable. 5 on, 2-5 mins off to restore circulation. Glad to help, and I'm over on Reddit for any questions...( :

 

[M9ter]

Hello M9ter so with the Wrecking Ball if you are not trying to add length skin can you just place it at the glad and still see gains.

Hi,

To create more skin, wear it at the base. To solely create length, wear in the middle and let the skin create a dam that will eventually rest on the crown of the glans and start to cause length gains. This also holds true for other devices like LG Hangers new weighted rings. Cheers..!

M9

 

[Shahhs]

HI,

Due to limited history on this site, please state your age and date of birth before I can make suggestions. Thank you,

20 years old currently born 2002. Will be looking forward trying your workouts.

 

[zibs56]

So dude, this wrecking ball thing is so bulky if you get it to over 5lbs lmao. I just set it up today and its at 5.6lbs to try out. I usually hang 3 20 min sessions a day, currently at 8lbs for my hanging sessions.

But adding the tire weights to the ball stretcher (i got the 2lb ones you mention in the diy), and man it gets so bulky if you want to add weight to it. There isn't a better way to do it is there? and you can't really wear this around for hours a day or go anywhere with it. You mentioned your sweet spot for the wrecking ball was 6-10 lbs or something, i can't imagine having this on for that long lol.

 

[M9ter]

So dude, this wrecking ball thing is so bulky if you get it to over 5lbs lmao. I just set it up today and its at 5.6lbs to try out. I usually hang 3 20 min sessions a day, currently at 8lbs for my hanging sessions.

But adding the tire weights to the ball stretcher (i got the 2lb ones you mention in the diy), and man it gets so bulky if you want to add weight to it. There isn't a better way to do it is there? and you can't really wear this around for hours a day or go anywhere with it. You mentioned your sweet spot for the wrecking ball was 6-10 lbs or something, i can't imagine having this on for that long lol.

Hi,

I found that about 4 pounds was about the limit in terms of both weight on the glans and bulkiness for many guys. For those with larger girths, closer to 5-6 pounds worked better for their setups. When I was about 5 inches girth, the 4 pounds was more than enough. Sweet spot for long duration hanging or ADS (non-WB) usage was 6-10 lbs. For the WB, 4-6 is plenty. Haha, no its meant to be worn in one spot and moving slowly while walking. Impossible to use for hidden wear or work.

 

[zibs56]

Hi,

I found that about 4 pounds was about the limit in terms of both weight on the glans and bulkiness for many guys. For those with larger girths, closer to 5-6 pounds worked better for their setups. When I was about 5 inches girth, the 4 pounds was more than enough. Sweet spot for long duration hanging or ADS (non-WB) usage was 6-10 lbs. For the WB, 4-6 is plenty. Haha, no its meant to be worn in one spot and moving slowly while walking. Impossible to use for hidden wear or work.

Ok well I started doing PE about 3 months ago and my starting measurements are close to what your starting measurements were.

I have this super tight cord that is super thin near the skin surface at the top of the penis from the pubic area and it takes a lot of the pull when stretching or hanging. Not sure what to do about that to be honest. It isn't quite the "steel cord" others have referred to. Not sure if you know what it is and how to best work around it?

And I will decrease the weight of the WB to 4lbs and see if I can hang for longer periods of time. how long do you recommend hanging with the WB?

thanks
Z

 

[MojoRisin]

Hey M9,

Just out of curiosity, given how you mentioned its better to go for devices before manuals to maximise gains, if I was wanting to do some more exercises after (hopefully) some phallosan gains, would you recommend hanging before stretching?

Cheers, Mojo.

 

[Tarek Ramadan]

Sir, you say 9in. in length. I only say that because I have a follow up question.
Can I have a 10/10 EQ if I got up to 8.25in. NBPEL.

 

[djvybz]

Hey,

Oh of course pumping does provide results, but at a much slower rate than other methods such as manual or cable clamping. Modern air and water pumps are very popular due to their marketing as fast enlargement devices, which they simply can’t deliver on. Exactly like their 100 year old predecessors, they simply create a vacuum which inevitably draws in edema and thus focusing the vacuum force on the outer skin and not the shaft beneath where it could be beneficial. The skin will yield to vacuum force far easier than the shaft will. So traditional pumping is inefficient at causing the necessary internal pressures needed to expand the 3 penile chambers and glans beyond their normal capacity and thus cause the growth mechanism that permanently enlarges the penis. I address the downsides of pumping in the other reply. Thanks..!

M9, thank you for taking your time to answer questions here. Regarding pumping and edema, for me it has helped wearing a sleeve to ward off edema, do you think the positive pressure of the sleeve on the outer skin would not only eliminate the edema but help the negative pressure of the vacuum more effectively hit the CC and CS?

And what is your recommended length of time to wear a vacuum extender per day? And how often do you increase tension? Slightly every progressive session or after a certain set period of time?

Finally what is your theory on EQ fatigue and cementing gains? There is a lot of conflicting information out there. Some of the big 3 or 4 PE sites say to push through EQ fatigue and keep going and don't worry about EQ, some say when you start to see fatigue to taper off and go to a recovery period and work on EQ to cement gains. What are your thoughts?

BTW, been trying your shockloading technique, 5 minute pressure before using extender and only after 2 days of putting it into practice seeing better stretches, thank you for that!

 

[Incrementalist]

Hey M9, nice to see a true vet show up and lay down some new ways of thinking and share some DIY techniques as well!
I've been around since about 2012(?) and have come back after life encouraged me to reconnect with some self improvement pursuits.
Im wondering what your thoughts are on the process of angiogenesis in conjunction with hydraulic pumping? (BathMate)

I understand that the status quo of thinking is an ever evolving phenomenon and it requires many minds to keep it so.
I was fortunate enough to cross paths with the idea of cell proliferation through the process of angiogenesis and that it would take place following sessions in a BM.
Curious as to what your thoughts are, as the person who introduced this idea to me was someone I have recently begun to place faith in. He also stated that he believes clamping is useless and it should be substituted for hydraulic pumping.

Not looking to create dramas between people contributing to the pool of knowledge we all have access to right now, but rather to assist in the evolution of the dialogue itself.

 

[M9ter]

Hey M9, nice to see a true vet show up and lay down some new ways of thinking and share some DIY techniques as well!
I've been around since about 2012(?) and have come back after life encouraged me to reconnect with some self improvement pursuits.
Im wondering what your thoughts are on the process of angiogenesis in conjunction with hydraulic pumping? (BathMate)

I understand that the status quo of thinking is an ever evolving phenomenon and it requires many minds to keep it so.
I was fortunate enough to cross paths with the idea of cell proliferation through the process of angiogenesis and that it would take place following sessions in a BM.
Curious as to what your thoughts are, as the person who introduced this idea to me was someone I have recently begun to place faith in. He also stated that he believes clamping is useless and it should be substituted for hydraulic pumping.

Not looking to create dramas between people contributing to the pool of knowledge we all have access to right now, but rather to assist in the evolution of the dialogue itself.

Hey man..

Glad I can help..! Having counseled men on a near weekly basis who have been injured from water pumping, I can tell you water pumping is not worth the risk. AMAZING advertising, slow progress, decent chance for pelvic floor damage, long term injuries, crap/cheap design with no safety pressure gauges...what's not to like? Can you tell I'm being sarcastic? So yes, avoid pumping in general if possible and consider timed pressure holds or clamping in some form instead. MUCH faster progress with low chance for ED issues seen with pumping to get similar results. Former R&D mechanical designer with clients including Coca Cola, so I can say I have experience with what they are suggesting with water pumping. My 2 cents....( :

 

[PEispossible]

You've mentioned you have had nerve damage from the bib hanger. I've had some from pulling too hard on manuals. I may have had some from the bib hanger. I've have definitely caused an erection problem, many times ,as this is part of the learning curve and as long as is temporary as it n a few hours it's in ok right? Even nerve damage can take weeks to heal, correct?

As you probably know there's a fine line between enough fatigue for growth and nerve damage. Obviously I've crossed that red line, as have you. Well I think I have some nerve damage. Either this or it's something else, but I track it back to a week and a half ago, since then erections have had issues, as no erection at all, or not hard for very long at . I am trying stop and starts.

Usually I know one must back off and not stretch too hard, until this nerve damage subsides, I can still stretch, hang but not to the point where it's going to cause any more injury as I'm sure you know, correct?

For clamping an erection of 70-100% is best right?

If currently I'm not able to get an erection pre hanging as I know it's the best time, after hanging is completed, would clamping have any benefits for length growth?

 

[BigO]

You've mentioned you have had nerve damage from the bib hanger. I've had some from pulling too hard on manuals. I may have had some from the bib hanger. I've have definitely caused an erection problem, many times ,as this is part of the learning curve and as long as is temporary as it n a few hours it's in ok right? Even nerve damage can take weeks to heal, correct?

As you probably know there's a fine line between enough fatigue for growth and nerve damage. Obviously I've crossed that red line, as have you. Well I think I have some nerve damage. Either this or it's something else, but I track it back to a week and a half ago, since then erections have had issues, as no erection at all, or not hard for very long at . I am trying stop and starts.

Usually I know one must back off and not stretch too hard, until this nerve damage subsides, I can still stretch, hang but not to the point where it's going to cause any more injury as I'm sure you know, correct?

For clamping an erection of 70-100% is best right?

If currently I'm not able to get an erection pre hanging as I know it's the best time, after hanging is completed, would clamping have any benefits for length growth?

One correction I'd like to point out so you understand the difference.

There is not a fine line between enough fatigue and nerve damage.

Nerve damage comes from improper technique. When one goes up in weight it is then that improper technique causes damage that may otherwise not happen at a lower weight.

Same with manual stretching. Nerve damage is not fatigue in any way. Overdoing stretches or hanging can result in over fatigue but that doesn't mean it WILL be Nerve damage.

Nerve damage can be caused even if fatigue is not achieved.

 

[PEispossible]

One correction I'd like to point out so you understand the difference.

There is not a fine line between enough fatigue and nerve damage.

Nerve damage comes from improper technique. When one goes up in weight it is then that improper technique causes damage that may otherwise not happen at a lower weight.

Same with manual stretching. Nerve damage is not fatigue in any way. Overdoing stretches or hanging can result in over fatigue but that doesn't mean it WILL be Nerve damage.

Nerve damage can be caused even if fatigue is not achieved.

Are you sure nerve damage is caused by improper technique than too much weight?

 

[BigO]

Are you sure nerve damage is caused by improper technique than too much weight?

I am sure nerve damage can be caused by improper technique or too much weight or even a combination of both.

Too much weight is not the same as too much fatigue. Fatigue what you aim for while to much weight is a mistake by the individual.

Improper wrapping and/or technique will be easily exposed as one moves up in weight. This means the weight didn't cause the damage but improper technique did if this were the cause

 

[Big Al]

Are you sure nerve damage is caused by improper technique than too much weight?

Too much force or improper technique can cause injury.

 

[average.gatsby]

Hi M9ter, thank you for sharing your experience and hard-earned knowledge! I'm 32, 04/14/1990.

You mentioned in one post that you don't often post with specific brands/models for moderator reasons. Is it okay to get your thoughts on the Phallosan Forte vs. QE Pro (for small glans)?

I was following your line of reasoning that "time under tension" is what wins the race. I've considered the PF and QEP for a few years, but just never pulled the trigger.