I'm M9 (M9ter) from Reddit's PE forum r/ajelqforyou, AMA (Ask Me Anything)

[M9ter]

Hi M9ter, thank you for sharing your experience and hard-earned knowledge! I'm 32, 04/14/1990.

You mentioned in one post that you don't often post with specific brands/models for moderator reasons. Is it okay to get your thoughts on the Phallosan Forte vs. QE Pro (for small glans)?

I was following your line of reasoning that "time under tension" is what wins the race. I've considered the PF and QEP for a few years, but just never pulled the trigger.

Hi,

Thank you for the age verification. The vacuum cup devices are considered the safest designs currently. As for the PF, its a good design if a bit expensive. WIth any device, its about the time you put in. Even cheap Ebay chinese knockoffs have been shown to give users 2" in as little as 18 months with consistent daily work. So don't feel you need to spend a huge amount on devices. Hope that helps..!

 

[M9ter]

You've mentioned you have had nerve damage from the bib hanger. I've had some from pulling too hard on manuals. I may have had some from the bib hanger. I've have definitely caused an erection problem, many times ,as this is part of the learning curve and as long as is temporary as it n a few hours it's in ok right? Even nerve damage can take weeks to heal, correct?

As you probably know there's a fine line between enough fatigue for growth and nerve damage. Obviously I've crossed that red line, as have you. Well I think I have some nerve damage. Either this or it's something else, but I track it back to a week and a half ago, since then erections have had issues, as no erection at all, or not hard for very long at . I am trying stop and starts.

Usually I know one must back off and not stretch too hard, until this nerve damage subsides, I can still stretch, hang but not to the point where it's going to cause any more injury as I'm sure you know, correct?

For clamping an erection of 70-100% is best right?

If currently I'm not able to get an erection pre hanging as I know it's the best time, after hanging is completed, would clamping have any benefits for length growth?

Hi,

Yes, I've suffered from nerve damage due to several practices over the years. Nerve can take months to never to fully heal. I still don't have full recovery from some of the things I tried sadly. Thankfully heat treatment was able to help me treat it. Not waiting to let things fully heal after an injury only increases the chances of making things worse. Below erection 100 % is good, Clamping is an awesome way to shockload (break down the tissues) and helped me jumpstart me continued length gains.

 

[Incrementalist]

Just thought Id drop back in and say thanks for the incredible amount of effort you have put into the reddit..... You may have made an immeasurably important contribution to mens health and mental wellbeing.

I have some hard questions brewing up in the background that I would like to get broken down in here over the next few days if that sits well with you M9, just need to format them properly to make them more conducive to other members stopping by and taking knowledge straight out of your answers with ease.

Hope youre well, I really do appreciate what you have done for men with your efforts, friend.

 

[M9ter]

Just thought Id drop back in and say thanks for the incredible amount of effort you have put into the reddit..... You may have made an immeasurably important contribution to mens health and mental wellbeing.

I have some hard questions brewing up in the background that I would like to get broken down in here over the next few days if that sits well with you M9, just need to format them properly to make them more conducive to other members stopping by and taking knowledge straight out of your answers with ease.

Hope youre well, I really do appreciate what you have done for men with your efforts, friend.

Hey man..!

I do truly appreciate the that..! Its been my charter from the beginning to help as many men as I can so they don't suffer from the same mistakes I made when starting out. Due to my schedule and this AMA now winding down, feel free to send me a PM here or send the questions to me on Reddit as I will be faster to react there. Best regards..!



M9

 

[djvybz]

Hey guys,

In the interest of increasing the knowledge base and communication within the PE community I'm here participating in an exchange with Big AL, who appeared in AMA on Reddit last week. I'm visiting now to answer any questions as best I can about PE. My background in PE goes back 25 years now, beginning in the 1990s. My original measurements were 5.5x4.25 (BPSFL) and are currently 9.25 BPSFL, 8.75x6.75-7 (BPEL). Cumulative time to achieve that was about 5.5 years in total. I advocate for the safest and most efficient PE methods available, so no drugs, pumping, chemicals, etc were used in my routines nor do I teach them. I'm a founding member and main moderator of Reddit's largest PE forum in 2017, with a membership currently over 50,000. I've counseled over 3500 men (2-5 new men per day, including holidays, since 2017) for free. I've been interviewed by both Men's Health Magazine and the BBC. Lastly, I'm also the author of the books, Monster 101 (Advice from a PE Veteran) and Monster 101 EVEN BIGGER. Glad to be here and help any way I can. My website for the book is www.enlargementunlimited.com. Thanks..!

Mod note: I have been given permission by Big Al to post/comment here.

M9

M9,

What is your recommended length of time to wear a vacuum extender per day? And how often do you increase tension? Slightly every progressive session or after a certain set period of time?

Finally what is your theory on EQ fatigue and cementing gains? There is a lot of conflicting information out there. Some of the big 3 or 4 PE sites say to push through EQ fatigue and keep going and don't worry about EQ, some say when you start to see fatigue to taper off and go to a recovery period and work on EQ to cement gains. What are your thoughts?

Thanks so much!

 

[M9ter]

M9,

What is your recommended length of time to wear a vacuum extender per day? And how often do you increase tension? Slightly every progressive session or after a certain set period of time?

Finally what is your theory on EQ fatigue and cementing gains? There is a lot of conflicting information out there. Some of the big 3 or 4 PE sites say to push through EQ fatigue and keep going and don't worry about EQ, some say when you start to see fatigue to taper off and go to a recovery period and work on EQ to cement gains. What are your thoughts?

Thanks so much!

Hey,

For best length results< I always suggest wearing it as long as you can per day, so Ideally 2+ hours daily. That regimen has many positive reports yielding 2" or more of length increase in as little as 18-24 months of consistent daily use. Instead of cementing, I suggest the overshoot method. When you stop PE and all healing completes, you may have lost length or girth or both. Either discover what that loss is, or basically overshoot by .25"-.5" to ensure you are at your goal size after all losses occur. In short, overshoot your goals as a general rule. I did in 2001. In 2015, when I restarted PE...I was still the size had set my goal at. PE is about balancing your EQ with gains, so do girth after your gain most/all length. This will allow you to take days off which will improve EQ. The more your weaken the tunica, the more EQ drops, hence another reason to do girth second after length. Hope that helps..!

M9

 

[djvybz]

Hey,

For best length results< I always suggest wearing it as long as you can per day, so Ideally 2+ hours daily. That regimen has many positive reports yielding 2" or more of length increase in as little as 18-24 months of consistent daily use. Instead of cementing, I suggest the overshoot method. When you stop PE and all healing completes, you may have lost length or girth or both. Either discover what that loss is, or basically overshoot by .25"-.5" to ensure you are at your goal size after all losses occur. In short, overshoot your goals as a general rule. I did in 2001. In 2015, when I restarted PE...I was still the size had set my goal at. PE is about balancing your EQ with gains, so do girth after your gain most/all length. This will allow you to take days off which will improve EQ. The more your weaken the tunica, the more EQ drops, hence another reason to do girth second after length. Hope that helps..!

M9

Thank you, that is helpful. I've adopted a 3 hours a day routine at the moment so glad to hear that falls in line. Previously I was wearing 6-9 hours between ADS and extender and saw a good .5" growth in only a couple months but sustained some minor nerve injury, numbness, pins and needles and EQ was at almost zero for awhile, the side effect of too hard too fast. Scary and lesson learned.

So regarding tension adjustment frequency, how often should one increase the tension? I'm a little cloudy on this. I currently have about 1" between NPEL and BPFSL and I generally see a consistent creep of a mm or 2 week after week, so should I continue to increase tension when seeing creep or stay static for a period of time? Again, trying to learn from mistakes and not go too fast as to cause injury yet find the balance to keep pushing the envelope if progress is being made.

And to clarify you are wearing 7 days a week or do you take any days off a week?

Thanks again!

 

[biggerman]

how many clamping sets should I do before wearing the wreaking ball if im only aiming for length only right now.

 

[M9ter]

how many clamping sets should I do before wearing the wreaking ball if im only aiming for length only right now.

Hi, if you mean to shockload only one 5-10 minute session before your length sessions are really required. Doesn't build any girth and weakens the tissues/creates microtears that the devices exploit to speed length gains. Hope that helps..!

 

[M9ter]

Thank you, that is helpful. I've adopted a 3 hours a day routine at the moment so glad to hear that falls in line. Previously I was wearing 6-9 hours between ADS and extender and saw a good .5" growth in only a couple months but sustained some minor nerve injury, numbness, pins and needles and EQ was at almost zero for awhile, the side effect of too hard too fast. Scary and lesson learned.

So regarding tension adjustment frequency, how often should one increase the tension? I'm a little cloudy on this. I currently have about 1" between NPEL and BPFSL and I generally see a consistent creep of a mm or 2 week after week, so should I continue to increase tension when seeing creep or stay static for a period of time? Again, trying to learn from mistakes and not go too fast as to cause injury yet find the balance to keep pushing the envelope if progress is being made.

And to clarify you are wearing 7 days a week or do you take any days off a week?

Thanks again!

Hi,

Sorry to hear about the nerve damage, but there are heat treatments that can help regain some of your sensation. Submersing it in barely tolerable water (use thermometer) until the water cools, done at least once daily, can help restore lost sensation. Only increase tension/weight when from one monthly measurement to the next does not show an increase. Always watch for tingling, numbness, excess cold, or color changes to blue or black since all are signs of impending injury. Yes, I suggest no rest days since you grow the most during the damage/healing cycle while wearing it and not on the off time. Hope that helps..!

 

[djvybz]

Hi,

Sorry to hear about the nerve damage, but there are heat treatments that can help regain some of your sensation. Submersing it in barely tolerable water (use thermometer) until the water cools, done at least once daily, can help restore lost sensation. Only increase tension/weight when from one monthly measurement to the next does not show an increase. Always watch for tingling, numbness, excess cold, or color changes to blue or black since all are signs of impending injury. Yes, I suggest no rest days since you grow the most during the damage/healing cycle while wearing it and not on the off time. Hope that helps..!

Thanks M9! The nerve damaged healed after a few weeks of decon some time ago. I seem to have quite a bit of elastin and Im rather stretchy, so I think I just kept stretching faster than the nerve could keep up with and I just over stretched the nerve. No major problems since then. The psychological factor of the God-awfully poor EQ and that I fucked myself up was harder to get over than the injury itself, I think. So EQ suffered awhile longer from my mindset than the actual injury. But all back in order for months now and I do now pay more attention to the twinges and comfort level. I learner no pain no gain doest work in this type of environment.

Thanks for all the advice! One last question, I seem to turtle quite a bit after a session. Do you suggest wearing a sleeve to heal in extended state or do you have any other methods? I think I may have overactive cremaster muscle that contributes to this as I've always been more of a grower even before PE and my balls are often pretty tight to my body unless very warm, which coincides with a longer flaccid for me.

 

[The Next Big Thing]

What erection % is required for the "timed pressure holds" ?

 

[PEispossible]

Why is behind the cheek hanging preferred as the preferred hanging position in Penis enlargement , as a length exercise?

I've done this since 2018 3-4 sets a day, everyday just About and have gained 0.25 inch length. About a my the ago I started Ed doing more manual stretches , and clamping for ten minutes before hanging to break down tunica. No results yet.

Like finally , since the tunica has the most potential for enlargement, greater than the ligs , why wouldn't people just hang straight out while hanging, target the tunica . Would hanging straight out give the most enlargement?

 

[Marlon LGHanger]

Are you sure nerve damage is caused by improper technique than too much weight?

Nerve damage is the result of pinching / clamping on nerves. In order to hold more weight with a compression clamp and keep it from pulling off your penis, you need to increase the tension on the clamp.

If you have a pinched nerve, you may notice a range of symptoms, including pain, discomfort and numbness in the affected part of your body. When this affects the nerves around your penis, it may lead to erectile dysfunction and other sexual performance issues.Mar 11, 2021

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Hey M9, any thoughts on the effectiveness of sizegenetics? Worth buying?

 

[BigO]

Nerve damage is the result of pinching / clamping on nerves. In order to hold more weight with a compression clamp and keep it from pulling off your penis, you need to increase the tension on the clamp.

If you have a pinched nerve, you may notice a range of symptoms, including pain, discomfort and numbness in the affected part of your body. When this affects the nerves around your penis, it may lead to erectile dysfunction and other sexual performance issues.Mar 11, 2021

Compression clamps can be used to extremely high weights. The issue is that as people go up in weight, the margin of error becomes less and less.

I was issue free up to and over 30 lbs, after 32 to 35 I had some minor nerve issues.

The benefits of vacuum over compression hangers is that the learning curve is less and once you have it down you only need to worry about conditioning but that occurs on its own with a slow and steady weight progression.

Compression hangers are not the main cause of berne damage, human error is

 

[Marlon LGHanger]

Compression clamps can be used to extremely high weights. The issue is that as people go upnin weight, the margin of error becomes less and less.

I was issue free up to and over 30 lbs, after 32 to 35 I had some minor nerve issues.

The benefits of vacuum over compression hangers is that the learning curve is less and once you have it down you only need to worry about conditioning but that occurs on its own with a slowly and steady weight progression.

Compression hangers are not the main cause of berne damage, human error is

Human error / stupidity is always the result of injury or death. I remember back in the day when Honda manufactured 3 wheelers. Tons of people hurt themselves when they tried to make high speed turns and then got spit off and the 3 wheeler gobbled them up. Honda didn't send out a disclaimer on the dangers of making a high speed turn, the government just stepped in and banned them. If your old enough to remember the same thing happened to Chevy Corvair.