Locating and Activating the Ischiocavernosus Muscle (IC) to obtain more 'Penis Power'

[DickerSchwanz]

Hans, I wondered already if the IC is partly involved in HF.
Cause doing an IC contraction flaccid kinda looks like HF. The IC innervates into the CC and makes it stiff without an erection during flaccid state.
Of course, I being aware of the muscle, just release the traction. I see no downside getting aware of the IC, but if suffering from HF one might proceed with caution.

Proceed with caution, especially if you are kegeling against a penile stretch.

I do engage the IC against pressing down on an erection. No problem for me and obviously one can easily decrease the intensity by pressuring less.
But yeah like all exercise, there's dangers. But to be honest that's a lot of worries I see now in this thread, that is probably unwarranted if common sense is applied similar to using weights in the gym

Kegeling against a stretch(flaccid) is kinda interesting. It's basically weighted exercise. Works nice for the "BC" kegel. I get almost no pull/weight on the IC flaccid.
Probably due to the IC working best when leveraging the erect "legs" of the CC. (IC is directly attached to the CC beyond the pubic bone/inside penis)

 

[DickerSchwanz]

IC and Reverse Kegels


Doing a rather intense reverse kegel, where some pressure is exerted, especially towards the pubic bone, always seemed to help the IC contraction.
I get a similar result without having the IC engaged at all with an RK. Slight occlusion of the CC resulting in holding blood in the outer penis.(ballooning)

I think I nailed it down; The expanding function of the RK stretches/balloons the PF into the pubic bone area.
That occludes/pressures the two "innerpenis" legs of the CC's that are wrapped around by the IC Muscles into the hard pubic bone without any space to stretch freely into.
From there engaging the IC seems easier. The RK also takes the antagonistic action of the BC muscle out of the equation.

Needs an intense RK though.
The same doesn't happen with a back RK which exerts almost no expansion towards the "behind the pubic bone" area.

 

[Night flyer]

Thanks for this thread, has to be the most clear explanation of where the IC is located and what it does. I tried the "closing together" contraction of the IC and i did feel the legs turtle up. I dont really got the hang of reverse front keels though.

 

[DickerSchwanz]

I dont really got the hang of reverse front keels though.

It`s like blowing up a balloon in the whole front area between perineum and pubic bone inside out.
Pushes the IC legs up(and aside) and the BC and perineum down. (which creates a similar effect like an IC kegel but is a different motion)

You can do the front RK really hard as if you urinate.
The back RK is like defacating. Breathing in, assisting it, helps.
The difference to urinating and defecating is that a lot bigger area and more muscles are pushed out and stretched, which then also counters actual urination/defecating.

From there do it lighter and lighter as too much pressure is counterproductive for most reasons to use the RK (a strong push front RK can start ejaculation fast)
At best one can do the RK while breathing in and out.

Look at the picture, this is a view from below, areas marked. Areas marked are pushed down, bluged/ballooned out.
It's actually easier to see with the female Pelvic floor.(note also the similar muscles like the IC)


https://imgur.com/a/uG1euMn

 

[HansTwilight]

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Very good work Dicker!
:thumb:

 

[Pegasus]

Excellent work DS though I would contend that a rk will only start orgasm if you are near ponr , further back from ponr it should actually move you further from ponr.

 

[DickerSchwanz]

True Pegasus.
The correlation of a strong RK leading to a faster orgasm is for me ..
A really strong RK(high pressure), especially when focused towards the pubic bone pressing on the IC muscle/inner penis, balloons the penis so much that the pressure on the nerves and pipes amplifies any touch especially during intercourse.
A slight or normal RK it doesn't happen. Have to work a lot on my BC Kegel to then counter such a ballooning arousal increase.

 

[DickerSchwanz]

RK + IC

Start with a reverse kegel, focus on pressuring towards pubic bone outwards. Stretches IC's upwards and left/right. Pressures the inner penis. "ballooning" of penis possible. For me a strong very obvious "hard RK" best way to notice.

During RK engage the IC(contracting, moving from left and right inwards, "against" the RK)
Basically traps the inner Penis between the RK outwards pressure and the IC`s. Big increase in ballooning possible. High arousal, doing a BC Kegel that pushes blood through CS in, switching immediately to a RK and then engaging the IC fast leads to my max size.

 

[Pegasus]

Hmm

 

[Robson1444]

So this is very important. Grey's anatomy calls the ic muscle the erector muscle.My question is how do you best train it. I mean this pulling to the side doesn't seem to engage it that much. However the ic muscle is the one that makes the penis jump up. Is it then possible to train it with towel lifts. And holding the towel as it is flexed. Or would you rather say pushing to the side is better?

 

[Hope77]

If the IC muscle.is what makes the penis jump up, then doesn't it mean the IC is weak when we cannot make the penis jump (this applies specifically to those of us that can hardly get or maintain an erection while standing, neither can we flex the penis while standing). So could our IC muscle be the culprit.

Also the exercises you talked about on this thread, are they to be done while sitting or standing? Because when you use words like downwards or inwards, i wonder what you mean because these terms mean different things in different positions.

 

[Hope77]

Also for those of us with hard flaccid, is our IC muscle tight or weak?

Someone on reddit claims tightness means weak and that the IC muscle should be strengthened. This cured him.

However i wonder if strengthening a tight IC muscle does any good.

See the thread of the guy who was cured on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hard_Flacc...hard/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

 

[gonnabemassive83]

I apologize, but after going through this thread I don’t have a firm grasp on how to know I am training the IC.

Is it as simple as performing a RK when erect such that I am more engorged than normal (particularly the head), and then gently pushing my penis so that it angles left, and then repeating so it angles right?

What would be a good routine? 5 sets of 30 seconds left and 30 seconds right every other day?

 

[forthebest]

Is this something someone with PreP should be looking into ? If i understand correctly to start doing a RK you can use the IC muscle to start the pushing/balloning effect because the IC is in the starting line to push out on the PC and then PB. if the IC is strong and you can isolate it correctly you should in logic be able to have anothe muscle to control the push on the other areas and 3 muscles are better than 1 for more control ? But you have to also be care to not over work it because then the IC will become too tense and not work at all. Is my logic correct ?

 

[Bibol]

I also did not understand how to train this muscle, in what sense and with what exercises. It would be helpful to have more details given the importance of penis health

 

[GettingOverIt]

How do you go about this exercise?

Like I know how to kegel and how to reverse kegel. How do you 'kegel' this IC muscle?

Thanks

 

[GettingOverIt]

I think I have located and figured out how to use/train it.

Definitely easier with an erection.

I noticed that if my penis is semi erect and I engage this IC muscle, it pushes my penis into a pumped erection. So it's like ballooning the penis up. When the muscle is engaging I noticed my testicles rising as I tightened the muscles.

The pictures shown here should be checked out well and understood cos this helps visualization and connecting your mind to locating it when you attempt to do the exercise.

Correct me if I'm wrong but if done correctly, you can really feel the tension pressure on the sides of your penis but at the point around your pubic bone area where your penis comes out of your body?

 

[JGUIDO]

I'm looking into training my IC muscle as well. I think I'm getting it. From my understanding, it is sort of like a kegel but where you only hold or try to hold the very beginning of the "movement." I seen the base of my penis go inward a bit but I can barely hold it for a second if that and if I try to hold it longer it usually turns into a full kegel.

Am I on the right track? And do I just need to work on trying to hold it longer without doing a full kegel?

 

[forthebest]

I think i can also localise the IC by what everyone else says starting a kegel but very lightly and only by maintaining the start of the movement.
Would training this muscle help counter IKs because if it is strong you have more control and can counter them more easily while doing RKs ?

 

[GlassOverFlowing !]

You guys may as well be speaking Martian. I haven't a clue what you mean by Kegels ... Seen an article by a medic saying they're "dangerous" for most men. Reverse Kegels, BC, HF, What are you on about ? Read a post by one chap who said he'd tried IC exercises and got a fast erection, which, when he tried again became almost painful. However, I haven't read a single post which actually tells you clearly, and succinctly, how the devil you go about finding your IC muscle, and then how to exercise it. One post said he thought "It was the clearest explanation of where the IC is located and what it does' ... sorry guys, but it was clear as mud for me. All I want to know is how you identify the IC muscle in your own penis, ie., what do you actually do ? Step by Step Idiot's Guide Style, and then how you exercise it to get a great erection ? Will someone please, please give me a clear, layman's explanation without all the BC, Kegel, Reverse Kegel stuff, in plain English.