Well guys I think I am giving up on PE. Been doing it for close to 4 years on and off. I might have gained an 1/8" in girth, no length. I have tried a jelq free routine, JP's routine, stretching & girth routine. Just can't find anything that works. I monitor how I respond to each workout session, never get the positive indicators, no matter how light a routine I go. I am totally dumbfounded and disappointed that with all the info available on PEing I can't fnd anything that works for me??????? I have even used the personal trainer.

