JP's 90 Day Beginner Routine

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How to update this rutine for more intermediate? My goal at this point is Girth much more than length, I have water pump also
Good question.. You can either increase time / reps, slowly over weeks if you're going to stick with the manual approach. Regarding water pumping, start with just a few minutes per day, then add a minute per week until you're at 10 minutes. At least for me, 10 minute sessions (2 days on, 1 day off) gave me fantastic flaccid gains & what appear to be permanent girth gains (although some of the girth gains are from ADS/ hanging over the years). With water pumping, start low pressure, give your tissue time to warm up & slowly increase during your session... Don't go straight to high pressure, that can injure you.
 

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40 days in and already noticing crazy gains, especially flaccid. Can't stress the rest enough though I've been doing PE for a while now and even started to notice some EQ problems, had to take some time off
Are you doing 2 days on, 1 day off or some other scheme? Are you doing kegels? Lower EQ is a signal you're potentially over-doing it. However, it depends -- if you started new medication (like finesteride), or your testosterone went down (comonly caused by weight gain) or blood pressure went up, all those things can hurt EQ. Of course, over-training with PE can also hurt EQ.

At least for me, water pumping (I do my kegels while I water pump by the way) has been fantastic for improving my EQ. In fact, EQ losses were my primary motivation in coming back to PE a little over a year ago & pumping + kegels has really brought it back.

Make sure you're getting proper rest days & sleeping at night.. Stress at work / lack of sleep/ elevated cortisol levels or other kinds of things that usually increase blood pressure also tend to hurt EQ. And make sure you're getting enough rest / recovery between PE sessions.. . are you sore or close to injury? Make sure to allow yourself to recover.
 

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40 days in and already noticing crazy gains, especially flaccid. Can't stress the rest enough though I've been doing PE for a while now and even started to notice some EQ problems, had to take some time off
Rest is often the most overlooked aspect of training. By this, I mean structured recovery. This is different from merely not training due to laziness, as it's "opposite" is often overtraining.
 

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I'm back at it after a year off. I just watched a video I made with my gf and it was about 60 days into my last attempt. I have to say my cock looked big! This routine delivers.. the plan is to do this for 60-90 days and then jump into some girth work
 
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I'm back at it after a year off. I just watched a video I made with my gf and it was about 60 days into my last attempt. I have to say my cock looked big! This routine delivers.. the plan is to do this for 60-90 days and then jump into some girth work
Gains are always nice to see! Just wait until she starts to notice and you will be even happier! What do you have as your goals?
 

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It's been a long long time since I posted on this thread. So I'll report my own experience with the JP90 since 17 years later it still gets attention from newcomers. I hope this will be helpful to those who need it. "Take what you need and leave the rest." I think that was a slogan in some human potential movement. It seems like good advice.

Not to rain on anybody's parade, but the JP90 didn't work for me. I'm by far "not alone" which is kind of an understatement in my humble opinion. I was one of the first to try it way back in 2008 and even got some personal advice from JonPop. I've watched most guys who try it report zero gains after 90 days, and then defenders of the plan switch it up with the sudden pronouncement that it's only a "conditioning program"!

Ah, but the JP90 is basically how JonPop himself says he gained up to 2 inches within just about 7 months back in 2003! You can find his old posts on the Betterman Forums on the WayBackMachine (Internet Archive) to confirm what I'm saying. He also started on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for a serious deficiency which he had lived with for years, maybe decades. He was 60 years old when he started all of this. The TRT significantly improved his erectile health and was surely a major factor in his reported gains. He talked about this in private messages with me too. Somewhere in these forums you will probably find him talking on this subject too, but I find his 2003 posts on Betterman illuminating.

So keep these things in mind as you evaluate information here. There are many variables in play, including placebo effect. We are all susceptible to it.

If the JP90 or any other routine doesn't work, there are other things that might. Maybe. I found my own way with focused traction and there are several ways to do that. Jelqing/milking techniques and the like produced nothing and I now understand why.

All PE is experimental. Nothing is guaranteed. I admit that I take a much more conservative and cautious view of the PE scene than members of these communities typically do, but that's for good reason. I've learned from hard life experience that if it's bandwagon, it's probably not nearly everything it's cracked up to be.

My personal "broken record" advice (which nobody ever follows) is always to focus on ONE TECHNIQUE ONLY. Master it as a skill. Eliminate variables so if you gain, or DON'T gain, you know what produced the result. Avoid routines that shotgun a variety of techniques and devices hoping to hit it from all angles. Gains are typically going to come from one applied force and you'll never know what the winning technique is if you're doing 2 or 4 or 6 different things at the same time and mixing all those variables.

I understand that guys want the magic. They want to go through the motions and get what they want. PE just isn't so simple. I learned that the hard way. I mostly failed. Until I succeeded. And you'll be surprised by how big a small success in PE can be! Go for any gain at all and learn from the real gains. Trust in your results only. It's the only empirical data you will ever have to work from, so make sure you can trust it by being methodical and thinking critically about your own subjectivity.

I succeeded when I took a more minimal and focused experimental approach which demanded strict empirical observation of results and unforgiving measurement protocols. I didn't know if it would work. I tested it for its merits. I studied what I was doing very closely and tried to find ways to focus the forces into the deeper target tissues. It required careful thought and development of technique. It required problem solving, and yes there were superficial skin injuries which healed with short periods of rest.

There was no "going through the motions" about it. It was work. Usually tedious, but always an education.

I also wasn't pursuing a fantasy or an improvement in my self-image. All I really wanted to gain was knowledge one way or the other. I wanted to know if this stuff was actually working or if it was all just some sort of collective delusion. I committed myself to an empirical trial using my own body as a test subject. I did this fully aware that it might not be a good idea. I took 100% responsibility for the risk. I can't in good conscience recommend that anyone else do the same. It's totally up to you if you come down this path. If you do, you do so without my encouragement. We all have higher and better things to do.

My results were mixed, but I did gain. There is no delusion about that much. I can't speak for everybody else, but I can confirm that my results mean that at least some other guys are gaining too. I can't be the first.

Whatever you do: Respect yourself first and foremost. Do not compromise your self-image or self-esteem over of any mean spirited slights or cultural tropes. Stay safer, have fun, and good luck.
 
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