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[Leviathan]

Well said TTBB!!! ~

 

[TurtleProblems]

I think what it is, is that "most" women are too nice to hurt a mans feeling. If size really didnt matter (infact size shouldn't matter but sadly it does) then none of us would be here. I prefer to have the truth. If i am bad in bed, tell me. If im not big enough for you, tell me and then go find somone who is larger. If I didn't make you orgasm or cum, tell me, don't fake it. I really wish all of us men were created with the same size penis, around 7 inches, then there would be no problems.

 

[amiok]

I think what it is, is that "most" women are too nice to hurt a mans feeling. If size really didnt matter (infact size shouldn't matter but sadly it does) then none of us would be here. I prefer to have the truth. If i am bad in bed, tell me. If im not big enough for you, tell me and then go find somone who is larger. If I didn't make you orgasm or cum, tell me, don't fake it. I really wish all of us men were created with the same size penis, around 7 inches, then there would be no problems.

Exactly

 

[TTBB]

I think what it is, is that "most" women are too nice to hurt a mans feeling. If size really didnt matter (infact size shouldn't matter but sadly it does) then none of us would be here. I prefer to have the truth. If i am bad in bed, tell me. If im not big enough for you, tell me and then go find somone who is larger. If I didn't make you orgasm or cum, tell me, don't fake it. I really wish all of us men were created with the same size penis, around 7 inches, then there would be no problems.

IF by nice you mean compassionate and understanding then yes. If you mean nice, as in they aren't satisfied and saying nothing then you are only partially right ..Some woman will not express dissatisfaction with the sex because they don't want to wound a mans ego or its awkward to talk about .AND 90% of the time if there is a complaint about the sex its not about the size its about the passion or the technique or the lack of intimacy or its become mechanical and Its not about the size of the penis.. I do however totally agree woman shouldn't fake it because that just sets up bad habits, the man will think he was hitting the spot or found the way to heaven when in reality he is on the wrong path.

Size Matters to men, and often men transfer their feelings onto women.. just as woman do with their weight ie a woman feels fat and unattractive so there for her man must feel the same way .. he will say i think you are sexy, and she will say yeah right!.
A man will feel his penis is inadequate and A woman will say i love your cock and a man will Yeah right! It can be very frustrating for woman trying to convince their partners other wise because pretty much everything you gets turned around on her or turned into a negative...Even when you are paying a compliment it ends up being wrong or not good enough or perceived as a lie.

 

[Jimmyjack]

IF its not important to females ...is it important to men because you all are caught in a huge pissing match? Too much ego is wrapped up in cock..its really not healthy
If the concerns you have about the size of your penis is effecting other areas of your life and your general confidence ... Then you are obsessing and focusing too much on it... LIFE is too short to let a short cock get in the way of enjoying it.

I think a lot of men use their penises as an excuse when woman leave them .. its men who believe their penis is too small because its an easy thing to focus on and blame.. it also gives men something to blame that is not in their control, there for puts all the blame on to the woman, she is flawed ..when in reality relationships breakdown for other reasons ..like the spark is gone ..the respect is gone.. the personality is gone.. the love is gone... not the penis was too small.

Great thread OP, but you are a woman. LOL. I hear women all the time talk about how much stock we put in dick size, but you guys just don't understand. You really don't. Let me ask you this: Do you know how it feels to walk around with at 6 inch clitoris? As a young boy, you slow dance with a girl with big boobs, and your sh*t gets harder than "times in '29." Your smoking hot teacher walks by and the next thing you're trying to do is put your book(s) over your crotch, trying to hide what nature has blessed/cursed you with. Hey, you ain't been with one single woman yet and don't know the emotional hell that'll bring because you don't know about premature ejaculation, or anything like that. Yet. But before you get there, you have to take your clothes off infront of other boys and you find yourself unconcisously comparing yourselves. You look at yours, peek at theirs, look back at yours, look at the other dudes, look back at yours, . . . feel me? LOL! Then you watch movies, listen to songs, read books, etc . . . and all the talk about is how big some dudes "love pole" was and how the heroine swooned at its sight. All this time your wondering, "Wow, what is this sex thing all about? I can't wait to get me some." So you get older, see and notice more beautiful women and become more conscisous of what this big 6" clitoris can do and how/what it reacts to. Then one day, the little girl from down the street decides to give you some play. No, not just some play. She decides to change you life. SHE decides that this is the day she loses HERself to you. She has decided that you will take her virginity and make her a woman. When you woke up that morning you had no idea this was gonna' happen. You've wanted it too. You've bragged to your boys about what you'd do. You've told yourself what you'd to. You fantasized about it. But like being in a gun battle, you don't know how you're gonna react until your in the middle of the "sh*t."
Well, now you're done. You had sex. You convinced a woman to give themselves to you. But it was nothing like you expected. It was "good," but nothing like you expected. It was different. It was weird 'cause you didn't really know what your were doing, really. Then, to top it off, you hear that your partner told everybody about it and she said you had a small wanger, you lasted maybe 2 minutes, and that you were a lousy lay. You've just opened yourself up to the world of performance anxiety. Now every woman looks at your like you damaged goods. You're a good guy, but some girl who decided to actually give you a shot has wronged you. Now every time you step up and take you time at bat, you hope you can perform, whatever the hell that means. You age, get older, have more experiences and realize that all this time you thought you were doing the nasty like professional you've seen in all thise movies, your significant other tells you hat shes' never really had an orgasm and that you've never satisfied her in all the years you've been together. As a matter of fact, she faked all those orgasms just to make YOU feel better.
See, I dig your thread. It was good. But it's from a females perspective. There are alot of hurt people out there hiding behind false bravado. Lots of men been hurt by women they loved who always seem to get that last dig in by saying "he had a small penis and he couldn't fuck."
Oh, by the way, how messed up is that the small clit you guys have doesn't have to carry the performance burden that ours do? It takes you guys, what, a minimum of 8 minutes to come with direct clitoral stimulation? But we have to make sure you guys are mentally in tune, you feel good about how you look in certain positions, how you look with the lights on, if we need to cut our whisker's cause were chaffing you when we're down there, etc . . . Us? sh*t, just take your top off, give us a hand job, let us sitck it in for 90 seconds, and we're shooting like a Fourth of July fireworks display. God forbid we come to fast. You ever had a chick look at you after you just couldn't control it? It's as if you cheated on her or something.
Now tell me again that we put to much stock in dicksize.

Oh, did I cover the racial stereotypes?

 

[TTBB]

If you read my other posts you would see I have talked about the medias influence on men and their cock sizes… but I still stand by the fact a lot of guys blame their size when women leave or cheat when in reality the reason why women do that is because other core areas of a relationship aren’t being fulfilled or the spark between the couple has died ..If a girl ends a relationship with out giving a reason.. Then guys go straight to their penis being the problem whether its size or how they were using it ..The thing is rarely if ever to do with penis size..

Guys end up blaming their penis for this happening because that is what they are preconditioned to do because they are taught the penis makes the man..So it allows them to both beat themselves up because its not something that is easily fixed and it also allows them to hate the girl because she is a shallow bitch who had no heart. Setting the platform for men to be the victim in the situation instead of owning up to the parts of the relationship that they didn’t upkeep or how things changed…(There of course is a small cluster of woman who really are shallow bitches with no heart and women who are so hurt by there partners that they will lash out taking a low blow focusing on his cock .. BUT it doesn’t mean what she is saying is true, it just means she is pissed off and going in for the kill)

I do get that there are a lot of men who have been hurt by what a woman has said, and some rightfully so ..But I also think a lot of the hurt is brought on by their own interpretation of what is being said or what happened or what their own feelings about their penis is .. When you have insecurities about something it doesn’t take much to wound.

AND I would also say the equivalent female anatomy nipples that erect. Every time a female is aroused or accidentally brushed against or there is a temperature change because our nipples react to stimulation be it mental, contact or environmental factors and it can be just as embarrassing, awkward and it also provokes mixed reactions from people some good and some bad.. Nothing like having a girls get bitchy at you because your nipples have become erect. and guys getting the wrong idea and the comments that can come with it really puts you on the spot…some girls milk it for what its worth but generally woman don’t like there nipples erecting in public.. What makes it worse is it is in direct eye line and sometimes harder to hide because there are two of them.. so if they were 6” I can only imagine the drama it would cause..lol

P.s i found it hard to follow your post do to the stringing of sentences together and the lack of paragraphs .. i tried my best to follow what you were saying

 

[Pegasus]

Sometimes women have unrealistic expectations ttbb. Like the time I did oral on a girl till my tongue cramped and she then told the whole town I didn't do it long enough. I havn't by and large noticed women being particularly considerate or "nice", when it came to reviews.
I was in the sauna couple days ago with a couple teen girls, when in walks a guy in his underwear, then his mate pokes his head around the corner and says something and they both leave. Now his total time in there would have been 10 sec. The girl says "he should have stayed he was cute, small package though".

 

[TTBB]

Some humans have unrealistic expectations .. guys put their unrealistic expectations on to women all the time too

Females are just as competitive as males ..some will say things to impress their friends or amuse their friends at another persons expense to make themselves feel superior ...and they will make sh*t up just so they can feel normal and unfortunately what normal is tends to be dictated by the media.

 

[Always Ready Brek]

id agree with everything on the post there - for women with a bit of maturity,, i think alot of mid-twenties/younger girls are still chasing the big ride. but then, its a mature woman that you want.

 

[Pegasus]

So true ttbb.

 

[Hanma]

One more reason I have stopped watching porn - It's fucked my head up pretty bad before. Kept thinking of how small I am / was and hated myself for it. But then again, I've always had confidence problems.

It's still hard to get those thoughts out of my head sometimes.

 

[TTBB]

Porn also fucked my head up pretty bad for awhile .. for me it wasn't about the penis size though, it was about the women. It completely warped my perception of women in the world, normal sexual behavior and also myself ..which is why i do get what is happening to a lot of males from porn overload.. i would also have male friends sharing what porn they liked and them talking about it and wanting me to be like a pornstar agitated me..it was my own fault because i brought up the subject trying to figure out what guys got out of the porn besides a moment to shoot their load...lol
I started watching it because i wanted to explore sexuality and i did learn a lot... but at some point it went from being a positive thing to be a unhealthy thing..I still watch it on occasion but i have to have the right mind set and i have to limit how much i view .. I am at the point where i would probably only watch it, if I was in a relationship and i was watching it with my partner as a bit of fun or as an occasional prop for our sex life.

 

[RockstarParkingDude]

porn, like all the best things in life, is best in moderation.

 

[Going411x7]

My lady tells me all the time how much she loves my big dick..............

But it's not because you have a big dick, though, MrBigDick. It's because you possess the other kinds of traits women truly care about. Your big dick is just a plus.

TItty is soooooo on target here. She is one cool female.

 

[TTBB]

La la la la .....

 

[JonasKay]

That's apropos timing...especially after all the cyclical bantering on the "my ex girlfriend says my cock sucks" thread.

Not to open a can of worms, but I have to say that I wish there were other gay guys on the forums who commented regularly. I'm reading all this stuff...this back and forth...and have been hesitant to comment, mostly because I've never had sex with a woman. And yet, I can't help but think that gay guys are the only people who can see this debate from both sides. Not only do we know what it's like to have a penis (and any social constructions that have or have not made us insecure about our sizes), we also see a lot of erect penises for ourselves and, to be frank, have sex with them. Do I want to have a bigger dick? Yes. Do I think it'll make me a better lover? Probably, if for no other reason than it'll give me more confidence. Do I like the look of a big dick or bulge? Yes I do. AND YET -- have I ever enjoyed anal sex with someone who was over 6"? NO. NEVER. NOT ONCE. (And, believe me, I have had my share of experiences to draw from.)

Ah...the paradox of it all!

POINT: All of these issues -- the PE, the porn addictions, the ED, etc. -- are relative to who you are, where you come from, your past experiences, and how much of a brain you have. There are some people on this forum who, for any number of reasons, can't grasp some perspective. Guys, I know -- it's real easy to accept how you've been conditioned to think (girls wants big dicks, 6" is below average, guys with small dicks can't please their lovers, blah, blah, blah). It's a lot harder to RE-condition yourself and how you think. And that is what I think a lot of guys here are missing -- the conversations should be about how do we re-condition ourselves, rather than arguing about how much we've been conditioned in the first place. Guys post threads like "Am I big enough?", "My ex says I'm too small", "What's average?", "Are black guys bigger?", etc. I never see ones that ask for tips on HOW to be a better lover, or HOW do I overcome my size insecurities (aside from JPs 90). It's sad actually.

 

[cavallogrosso]

the point is that is true that a few woman says that want a big penis, but the word "big" is different for a woman than for a man. For us big is 8+ in lenght and 6+ in girth, for woman big is "only" 7 x5.5 or even less.

 

[Batwoman]

POINT: All of these issues -- the PE, the porn addictions, the ED, etc. -- are relative to who you are, where you come from, your past experiences, and how much of a brain you have. There are some people on this forum who, for any number of reasons, can't grasp some perspective. Guys, I know -- it's real easy to accept how you've been conditioned to think (girls wants big dicks, 6" is below average, guys with small dicks can't please their lovers, blah, blah, blah). It's a lot harder to RE-condition yourself and how you think. And that is what I think a lot of guys here are missing -- the conversations should be about how do we re-condition ourselves, rather than arguing about how much we've been conditioned in the first place. Guys post threads like "Am I big enough?", "My ex says I'm too small", "What's average?", "Are black guys bigger?", etc. I never see ones that ask for tips on HOW to be a better lover, or HOW do I overcome my size insecurities (aside from JPs 90). It's sad actually.

I agree with all this, but I do see threads where guys actually ask for tips and help with learning more and getting over their misconceptions. Just not a lot of them, alas.... probably because so many members are convinced that they are right about their negative thoughts about their size and abilities as lovers.

It's probably the nature of the Gym that many guys who end up here are obsessed with their penis size. Interestingly, it's the men who come with other issues -- wanting to improve their EQ, battling ED, or plagued with premature ejaculation issues -- that often end up bring the most sense to discussions about size. It's very helpful to have the perspective of lots of different folks on all these things.

 

[JonasKay]

the point is that is true that a few woman says that want a big penis, but the word "big" is different for a woman than for a man. For us big is 8+ in lenght and 6+ in girth, for woman big is "only" 7 x5.5 or even less.

I agree. It's all relative. I just wished more members took that into account when they respond to posts (given some of the recent threads that have been started in the past couple months).

I agree with all this, but I do see threads where guys actually ask for tips and help with learning more and getting over their misconceptions. Just not a lot of them, alas.... probably because so many members are convinced that they are right about their negative thoughts about their size and abilities as lovers.

It's probably the nature of the Gym that many guys who end up here are obsessed with their penis size. Interestingly, it's the men who come with other issues -- wanting to improve their EQ, battling ED, or plagued with premature ejaculation issues -- that often end up bring the most sense to discussions about size. It's very helpful to have the perspective of lots of different folks on all these things.

You're right ~ I know there are threads about tips and the like...and, yes, the more perspectives in threads the better. I just feel like in the past two months there have been a lot of threads about insecurities and the discussions have been nauseatingly roundabout.

 

[GTO]

You're right ~ I know there are threads about tips and the like...and, yes, the more perspectives in threads the better. I just feel like in the past two months there have been a lot of threads about insecurities and the discussions have been nauseatingly roundabout.

:agree: