The REAL conspiracy: 911

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I am a firm believer that 911 was a government conspiracy. There are scientific laws, eye witness testimonials, and plain facts that directly debunk the claims that the US government made about 911. For those of you with strong opinions on the matter, all I ask is you keep an open mind about the link I am about to post:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE (sorry I don't know how to make it an actual link...)

Please take the time and watch the entire video... it will get you thinking. Just like how we debunked fires claims through practicality and a bit of common sense, this video debunks the claims that the US makes through scientific fact, as well as some common sense.

Can't get any more legit than scientific fact
 

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soon, the water is going to spill over the top. Slowly but surely.
 

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It took a half a century for the fact that FDR knew about Pearl Harbour before it got in the history books, but..............

It IS now in the history books.

I don't doubt there will be new information coming out about this for years, but nothing really earth-shattering for a long time.
 

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Ooh, I bet the condensation trails off airplanes aren't really condensation, right?
 

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I think the general population is just ignorant and refuses to believe that the government would do something like that without really having an open mind... which is why this video hasn't already opened up a can.

The real question is, why in the world would the government not take this off the web?
 

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Its nice to see alot of people waking up to what's really going on, although 9/11 is only the tip of the iceberg.

And for TheGodJr, the reason the government doesn't take down every single video that points out obvious flaws and conspiracies, or any alternative news site is because it would to big of a give away.

Instead they just pretend like its not happening or dub them the tin hatters or any other name to get the general public to turn their heads away from the truth.
 

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The story of the mossad agents arrested with camera equipment across the hudson and then promptly released was quite interesting.
 

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This video pretty much proves the conspiracy... at least to anyone with an open mind and a little common sense. How this video hasn't made a bigger splash I have no idea
 

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I didnt watch the video (will do it in a few minutes) but if its about controlled demolition explosions of the buildings or that the planes were really missiles or any other stuff like that I just won't buy it. The furthest I'll go is to say that something just wasn't right...but I'm not sure what. Maybe that video will have some answers (although more than likely it will present more questions than answers).
 

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Let me know what you think when you're done watching it. Eyewitness testemonies dont lie
 

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I tend to believe the firefighters... just watch the vid and tell me what you think
 

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I watched it and thought it was a great compilation of evidence. But like every argument there are two sides and we have only been subjected to one with no counter-argument.
 

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Loose change is a pretty good video but it mainly focuses on evidence from zoomed up photos and videos and eyewitness accounts.

Here is a video
THE TRUTH & LIES OF 9/11

I recommend this video for anyone still skeptical as he completely puts the debate to rest.
 

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When I was in grade 8 (many years ago) I did a presentation in history class on the assasination of JFK. That class assignment sent my mind racing and started me on a 15 year obsession with that event (as well as his brother's and MLK's killings). I have read over 300 books on the topic (at least, the book cases in my library are full of them!), have travelled to Dallas 4 times to walk the "kill" zone, read every page of the Warren report, and have researched everything ever written/said about the people involved (that I could find). I am not a JFK guy, I was an event/conspiracy guy.

(I even got myself into other "conspiracies" as well (how/why the Korean War started, Area 51, the Moon Landing to name a few).

In all my "research" the three most glaring conclussions I had come to (after many many years) was that.......1) Eyewitnesses see what they want to see, and are among the most unreliable sources of information (especially in MAJOR events).........2) It is impossible to keep a secret of that size/importance (there are just to many people involved, waaaaaaay to much money for squakers to make, and too many loose ends) . .......and 3) Akums Razor.

Now I don't want to get into a political/power/left or right debate on the subject of JFK, 911, or any other conspiracy's. True theorists care more about the conspiracy than the politics (that way they can stay emotionally neutral). I am going to leave you with these thoughts.

Seriously think of how many people would need to be involved and kept quiet in a conspiracy the size of 911.
Think of how much money would have to have changed hands to pay people off.
Think of how many different governments/agencies would have had to been invloved to pull this off.

You are dealing with thousands of people for something this size....not tens....not hundreds......thousands!.....do you really think not one of those people would talk?? Not for 100, 200, 300 Million or more that they would make from talking....

I had aways been taught (by other theorists) to follow the trail of dead in the days/weeks/months/years following the event . Only one cospiracy "potentially" passes this test....JFK. The dead trail is touched on (all be it Hollywood style) in Oliver Stone's movie JFK and summarized in the book "Killing of a President". If a MAJOR conspiracy were to occur, many minor and a few major players would have to die. Thier secret is a lot more valuable to the "establishment" than thier lives.

Yes, I love conspiracy theories. They are fun, make great conversation, and spark debate. I think we all love them to some degree.

My score card just for fun;

911....Akums Razor, no conspiracy.
JFK....undecided (because of the dead trail).
Bobby and MLK......undecided.
Moon landing....Akums Razor.
Area 51.....Akums Razor.
Korean War...still undecided.
 

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That makes good sense, but there are some things that happened on 911 that are just unexplainable... like the pentagon having no holes where the wings would've hit, the windows being blown out at the bottom of both towers, how the towers fell (we all know that the briefly burning fires couldn't have possibly done that)

You also have to think of how high on the totem pole this goes. I guarantee not nearly thousands, probably not even hundreds, of people know about this. It doesn't take a lot of people to pull it off. My best guess is only the people with the very most power had something to do, the president, secretary of defense, head of the cia, ect. because of the fact that they can't afford for this to get out.

It's not like the US government hasn't done this before... we let the japs attack pearl harbor, we still dont know what happened to JFK, who knows why we were in the korean war. There is so much our government keeps from us, it doesn't surprise me in the least bit that we know nothing about what really happened on 911