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Pre-Pe my penis was infantile & smooth with no veins hardly ever showing & the flaccid was about 2" to 2.5" long, and girth was tiny (I never measured it, so I'm not sure where it was). I was a colllege athelete in phenomal shape, so it had nothing to do with my fitness.

My NPBFL tends to hang about 5.5" now, and today I measured my flaccid resting girth at 4" (right behind glans). This might be enhanced by pumping (I'll keep checking this measure to understand this better) because I swear it was 3.5" yesterday (right behind the glans - could be a measuring error). I've only had about 5 pumping sessions ever (and I did pump earlier today, several hours ago, maybe it's persisting? it's unclear).

My veins are very thick and pronounced now on my flaccid, it's almost hard to believe I'm looking at the same penis.
 

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Updates:
-I've been pumping with my bathmate 10 minute per day & have noticed the immediate flaccid improvement. I wonder how long it will take to make it permanent. Generally, I pump after the beginner routine. I attempted to rig a pressure gauge, but it's leaking air, so I'll have to buy some tubing & try again.
-I've been running the beginner routine about a month, and have already noticed some decent BPFSL gains. I'll share logs later, in fact I may create some graphs.
-I got the stealth for men ADS belt system & innerwear. The innerwear should be useful for discreet, lightweight ADS while I'm doing other things. I observed it's pretty hard to get it on at first, but seems to be getting easier. I also got sabreskin -- although I haven't figured out how to use it yet (I see it can be used to pump for length)
-I got the total man ADS system with vacuum changers. I'm wondering how long my routines should be (I'll start with 10 minutes per day & see how that feels -- and I plan to always tape my glans)
 
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@BigO it's great to be back. Also.. never asked before, but I wonder if your name refers to big O notation in computer science?

Log update: gains already, but will post more on this later
My wife thinks I already gained a lot recently (I'm running the newbie routine). I'm tracking things daily in a log.. EQ is up & I've measured gains in BPFSL, EQ, & more morning wood again. BPEL gains are unclear -- issue is I don't consistently get to 7" due to lack of EQ.

Ordered an ADS (total man)
I just ordered a vacum ADS kit from totalmanshop / total man company. I'm going to see how far I can get with very light force over long periods of time (while applying infrared heat the whole time). This time around, my goal with PE is to get maximum gains with minimum time / effort. I'm staying focused on length these days... I'm curious to see how much ADS helps with that + manual routine.

Turkeyneck
Lately I'm obsessed with turkeyneck concerns -- how do I grow my mid-shaft skin and prevent my balls from moving up my shaft. Bib says he would just wrap his balls, but this doesn't work for all guys. I might have what I would call a very minor / early form of turkeyneck where my gains have stolen some of the skin from my balls, and I think it looks fine at this point, but don't want it going further. I've been trying to think of whether there's a way to use my ADS but make sure force is applied to the skin above the balls / below the circumcision scar.

DHT / Finesteride:
I'm debating whether to stop taking finesteride, because it seems to hurt my EQ.. morning wood has come back after just a little PE (about 2 weeks of newbie routine and kegals).
No, BigO is just from my very first email account.
 

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I finished my first month of the newbie routine - my BPEL is measuring about 1/8th more and my BPFSL went from 15.88 to 18.1 (pre workout / post warm-up measures). 2 more months of my newbie routine to go -- although you'll see my newbie routine is a little odd... I suppose it's no longer a newbie routine.

My routine started out pretty standard, I started with 5m stretching, and 10m jelqing. However, I slowly modified my workout, where it now resembles nothing like a normal newbie routine. I am however, at least focused on using very light force & keeping heat on my unit at all times.

My routine is still the newbie cadence of 2 days on, 1 day off, but my routine is:
1) 5-7m warmup (rice socks), measure BPFSL
2) 20m ADS (very light force.. I use the "total man" vacuum ADS, I keep rice socks on the whole time)
3) 14m jelq (I am slowly working towards 20m jelq. I use very light force when I jelq too. I'm very sllowly increasing it,)
(I keep a small heater pointed at my unit the whole time I jelq)
4) 10m pump (you'll see below; I'm using this to stretch skin; at first it was incidental, but now it's intentional)
5) 5-7m (warm down), measure BPFSL

I don't advise newbies to do this of course; I got phenomenal gains my first time around with the newbie routine 10 years ago (I suggest staying the course).

In my attempts to prevent / fix turkeyneck... Almost a month ago, I attempted to manually stretch my shaft & got a minor bruise and had to skip PE for a few days. I decided that's a really bad idea, and I'm now goign about this a new way. I'm going to see if pumping an fix it.

I am intentionally using the pump to grow the shaft skin on the bottom of my shaft which is a little too short (gaining 1" of shaft length it mostly seems to have stolen from my balls). Hopefully it won't cause turkeyneck, but either way, the skin is a limiting factor, so I am experimenting with fixing it this way (to hopefully prevent turkeyneck / at least not let it get worse - I have a mild case of it). THe idea is pretty simple.. intentionally put the pump over a place where my bottom shaft skin is the primary limiting factor, and pump it / cause an erection (there's a little pain honestly, but it's not injuring me)... the pain is from my natural erection + augmentation of pump pressure, pulling on the bottom side of my shaft skin, strecthing it. I've read your skin can only grow at around 1/8" per month, so I may be doing this for a long time. I'll check-in later & let people know if it's working to stretch the natural shaft skin or make turkeyneck worse.

Early on I kept measuring my "force" before as around 4% or 5%. I read that as me using too much intensity & I toned it down; I'm usually about 1% to 2.5% "force". The philosophy is minimum force for gains and I have no desire to risk injruy & be forced to take a long PE break.

I'm measuring "force" as:
(BPFSL After - BPFSL before) / BPFSL

I always measure BPFSL as centimeters to keep it exact, and I measure at the same times of the workout (start = post warm-up / after = post warm-down). I'm striving to measure exactly the same way each day -- it's been a learning process. I strive to be consistent so I can detect even a 1/20th of a centimeter gain. BPFSL fluctuates quite a bit day to day, but I wonder how much is me not measuring consistently vs other factrs. Regardless, I'm seeing consisent good growth in that measure, so I'm going to stay the course.

I've been tempted to still do PE even on rest days (e.g. pump or ads only) but have decided I'm not going to do that. Given I've had great gains (so far), I clearly don't need it at this point. In my view 1/8" in a month is fantastic & may in fact be around the maxium reasonable growth most can achieve. I plan to stick with 2 days on 1 day off for at least another 2 months. In fact, if I keep gaining, I probably won't stop taking that approach (if it's working, why not just stick with it.
 
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The good news: I've grown at least 3/16" I think in the first 2 months of returning to my own version of the newbie routine (I slowly increased my routine & am presently at 20 minutes ADS - total man, 15 minutes Jelq, 10 minutes pump). It's making a massive difference on my flaccid, my wife noticed today & had to make a comment that's it's staying huge all the time. Pumping works surprisingly well -- it's a little effort (I fill a bathtub each time), but it really gets results. My pumping is meant to be conservative (I'm still focused on length gains).

MSEG = 5.4" (.15" gain)
BPEL = 7.2" (.2" gain)

Also, my total man ADS setup stopped working today (no vacuum suction, it kept slipping off), so I'm back to manual stretching. I spent a few hours trying different plastic heads / configuring the sticky blue tube and black elastic wrap around the plastic piece, but the tube can no longer provide suction, there must be an air leak because suction won't stay. I'm clean shaven as well, so there's no hair to get in the way. I'm debating whether to get more parts & keep using the total man ADS (it seems to work well enough) or whether I should invest in a better vacuum ADS (the Stealth for Men is really expensive, but seems nicely engineered).
 
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I'll be extremely happy if I can grow .1" per month consistently...

I measure daily with BPFSL before & after my worksouts & I'm still measuring % force (explained earlier in my thread) to make sure I dont' overdo it.

Also, I'm using bathmate pump to grow my shaft skin at the base & to prevent turkeyneck... I continue to do this, & the pain seems to have gone way down/ I think the skin is growing on the shaft. Pumping is usually the last part of my routine, & I get better results with the skin stretch when I make sure I've really cleaned off all the coconut oil so my ball skin isn't slipping into the bathmate tube.

Someone on another forum was trying a rubber cockring around his balls while using the bathmate to further assure he was growing his shaft skin (and to prevent turkeyneck). I'm going to try this for a few weeks & see if I can tell a difference.
 

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someone on another forum said the issue with the total man is the valve (and all 3 glans caps share only 1 valve).. most likely it's clogged, and it's near impossible to fix (so people end up buying new valves); apparently it's the weakness with that system.

I went ahead & ordered stealthformen, I hope it's more consistent & easy to use, I'll see soon enough.
 
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There's still a couple weeks left in my "newbie routine" period... I'm still at 15m jelqs, 20m stretching (using total man ADS), and 10 minutes pumping (bathmate)

I've been focused on keeping heat on my unit at all times (I use a small space heater + rice socks.. the space heater is important during times I can't keep a rice sock on), and with the bathmate pumping, the bath water keeps me warm. When I use my ADS I keep rice socks on during the initial 10 minutes when I'm sitting down. I felt gains were possibly slowing a bit, so I started trying to hit a lot more angles while using ADS & definitely noticed more fatigue the first time I tried it (but I'm not sure I believe that much fatigue is necessary to gain). I'm still 2 days on, 1 day off.. and I've missed at least 4-5 days of PE, which has extended my newbie routine period. I gained around 0.33" during my original newbie routine period, I probably wont gain quite that much this time, but I'm still doing quite well.

The flaccing gains from puming are RIDICULOUS -- my wife came up & grabbed me the other day & said ... holy sh*t, your package is huge! I was noticing when I showered that my flaccid has been WAY bigger since I started pumping. I'm sold on pumping & plan to keep doing it to make this all permanent.

I'm up to 7.25" BPEL now; which is .25" length gained in the last 2.5 months of my return to PE. This takes my total gains up to 1.25", and I've had major EQ improvements; I was struggling to measure at 7" consistently when I restarted after a 10+ year hiatus from PE (it was rare / a good day when my EQ was that high), and now I consistently reach 7.25".
 
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**I missed some workouts, so I still have a few weeks coming up before my 2nd newbie phase ends.

flaccid strech 3 months ago..
BPFSL pre-workout: 6.25"
BPFSL post-workout: 6.56"

flaccid stretch now:
BPFSL pre-workout: 7.28"
BPFSL post-workout: 7.68"

flaccid 3 months ago..
NBPFL: 4.5" (was inconsistent)
BPFL: 5.5"

flaccid now:
NPFL: 5"
BPFL: 6"

Thoughts / Observations:
1-My BPFSL after 10 years of no PE was less than my erect length. My BPFSL gains have been more dramatic than anything else, the benefit of this is it's easier to consistently measure progress on this metric / it's the best foundtional metric.
2-Pumping effectiveness: this is the only explanation for gaining .5" FL in just 3 months
3-my flaccid is consistently much bigger / thicker & more resilient (just a little cold used to instantly wreck it, not anymore), and it tends towards staying much longer... I've done PE for years in the past & it NEVER had this much of an impact (I'm sold on pumping -- the device was very expensive, but it was worth it)
4-it's surreal to get newbie gains again / for the 2nd time... (0.25" so far & I'm not done yet) I remember going a year & only gaining .25" or even less (towards the time I stopped doing PE), I think my strategy & approach is far more scientific / well-rounded now. We will see, the real test is whether I can figure out how to get strong, consistent gains post-newbie period.
5-I've been using TotalMan ADS.. I used a force meter & have determined it's usually only 1.5lbs to 2lbs of pressure. I'm still at just 20 minutes... & I've started trying to make the most of it, using lots of different angles (I think a flaw last time around in PE was I stuck with BTC hanging far too much.. and gained more slowly than I did with far less force & lots of different manual stretching angles). Since I'm only at 20 minutes, there's a LOT of room to increase this, but I'm in no rush to build up my resistance.
6-I don't like that the total man ADS slips sometimes, but on the flipside, it's incredibly easy to use (the stealthformen is a lot more complicated & feels a lot more difficult to put on with all the layers of plastic), but StealthForMen is way more robust, I can't even imagine it slipping (I've tried it & even without any lube or oil, it holds compression incredibly well - which is good, it was quite expensive at $375 -- compare that to total man which was maybe $80, except, I can use stealthformen to hang 20 or 30lbs -- yes way too much weight, but the point is the device is more robust, but also cost ~5x as much).
6-joining the cult of heat: that's right, I keep heat on my unit at all times... space heater, rice sock, thermal pad... My plan is once my ADS sessions start going long (past 20 minutes), I'll just throw on the thermal heat pad to keep things warm... I'm making great gains, so something about this formula is working,
 

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I continue using the bathmate to pin down the skin at the base of my shaft & stretch my base shaft skin to both prevent & mitigate turkeyneck (a lot of days that I'm pumping I'm actually focused on skin stretching (the natural force of my erection + pump pressure to grow the skin at the base of my shaft -- to prevent my balls from going up my shaft as I make PE gains). I don't want to draw premature conclusions, but it's been around 3 months of this & it seems to be working. The signs appear positive, so I'll continue the experiment.
 

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Today I noticed some new veins in my penis - my flaccid is staying FAR larger than it's been in my entire lifetime. It's amazing that pumping just 10 minutes (2 days on / 1 day off) is getting such good results. I've stuck with the newbie 2 days on 1 day off & this seems to work for me.

I'm 5 months into PE, and I've realized my gains are less than I thought / I had measuring issues; it's been about 0.05" per month (I've been logging, measuring frequently). I slowly increased my manual stretches from 5 minutes to 35 minutes over the past 5 months.

I've got full body length NIR / FIR pads I lay between for about 30 to 40 minutes per day & I've been doing this for 1.5 months. No joke, I sandwich myself together between the pads & try to get at least 15-30 minutes per side, per day.

I'm noticing a lot of great health benefits, & I'm noticing I recover MUCH faster from my PE routines (in fact, I have noticed general healing improvements throughout my entire body from this). The best unexpected health benefit is I had some gut issues & it appears NIR/ FIR is helping with that as well as an injury (hip) that wouldn't heal for 5 months, that healed quickliy with NIR/ FIR.

I've experimented with my routine, trying to find ways to do it faster with less prep-time. The worst is my stealth ADS takes me a LONG time to put on, but it's incredibly reliable & never slips & it's capable of handilng a lot of vacuum weight -- should I need it (I had a lot of issues with the total man - it's easy to put on, but the valve easily clogs & then it doesn't work).

My routine has been similar the whole 5 months: here's what it currently is:
10 minutes pumping
35 minutes ADS (but it always takes me 10-15 minutes to put on my stealth ADS & it's worse if I'm having issues)
15 minutes jelq

I've purposely not extended my jelq time -- maybe I'm terrible at doing jelqs, or maybe I"m not applying enough force, either way I've kept the time short because although I think it helps, I don't know that really long sessions really help. The same goes for pumping -- I see no reason to extend the time when it's working incredibly well with my short 10 minute sessions. Finally, I've stuck with 2 days on, 1 day off (newbie style) because it's yielding gains, so no reason to extend that.
 

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Also, I had some major frustrations with stealthformen ADS - they sent me sizing that was WAY too small, & I had a lot of breakage.. Turns out the size they sent me really doesn't just fit my penis, and I've had to move up 3-4 sizes & now it works perfectly. I think the issue is they have you stretch your flaccid & take your measure .. but if you stretch hard enough, you can make your flaccid thinner (so I don't know how much this measure can be trusted).

The most frustrating part is Stealth For Men customer service blamed me / accused me of lying when I said their device kept breaking with normal usage (the rubber glans cover, sabreskin & the receiving gel that seals everything). I broke 3 sets of devices & had to pay for more. My response to Stealth for men is why do they accuse me of doing wrong as a customer, instead of just trying to help me. They also charged me to send me the right sizes -- and ignored that they were the ones who recommend I go smaller on the sizing (so I took full responsbility myself even though I did as they advised). Their customer service is really terrible, & my device broke a lot. I finally have the right size, so hopefully the device goes a while wihtout breaking.

I am frustrated that a $400+ device is breaking this much -- I've probably spend $550+ on their site now.
 

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Also, for anyone trying to improve your flaccid hang, I recommend pumping. I've gone from "grower" to "shower" with 5 months of pumping. I did do PE for years in the past, so I'm sure that's part of it too, but puming just 10 minutes per routine has had an incredible impact. I've been in plenty of locker rooms & was always embarrased growing up... It's nice that I can now be confident that my flaccid is abnormally large. It doesn't shrink nearly as much anymore, even when I get really cold.
 

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Howdy Blink, great to see you making some impressive gains. Seams like you are getting newbie gains a second time around.
 
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Howdy Blink, great to see you making some impressive gains. Seams like you are getting newbie gains a second time around.
No PE For 10 years was a very long decon break & yes, previously my gains stalled; I'm doing much better now.
 
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This is embarrasing, but I think I was measuring wrong when I first came back to PE -- I measured from on top of the shaft, but too much to the side. I think I was only 6.75" when I came back to PE, not 7". Regardless, I wasn't over 6" when I started PE and I consistently measure over 7" BPEL now in good & bad conditions both (something that wasn't true 6 months ago). On good days I'm 7.25"+ both inside my bathmate & outside with a strict measurement from the top. I'm finding measurements are less consistent as I grow, and I'm not always peak size on a given day. Because of that I will need to over-shoot whatever length goal I set to make sure I'm able to typically reach that size.

Also, PE has restored my EQ - it was getting bad & I was near ED / had times where I had trouble getting it up, but after 6 months+ of consistent PE my EQ is great.

I've gained 0.55" since my return to PE.. I started with a manual routine, but switched to ADS within a couple months. This means I've gained 0.09" per month since my return to PE.

My routine is pretty gentle & lately I've given up on jelqs (mabye as of 1.5 months ago) because I don't think I do them right -- I'm always too flaccid or too erect & I'm having challenges with the time committment. Lately my routine is 10 minutes bathmate & 40 minutes ADS while in an NIR / FIR bed (head-to-toe). I'm noticing vascularity increase (my veins are popping out more), blood presure seems to have gone down (both could be side effects of losing a lot of weight in the last 1.5 years), but I've also noticed an extreme kind of relaxation while in the FIR / NIR bed.. I do ADS at the same time with my stealth-for-men ADS while in the NIR/ FIR bed & it's how I've kept my time committment as low as possible.

My goals are minimum effort/ gentle approach for maximum gains... 10 minutes bathmate + 40 minutes ADS... bathmate is in a very hot bath & ADS is in the NIR/ FIR bed so I am constantly getting heat.

My immediate goal is 8" and maybe something's wrong with me, because I don't think 7.3" looks very big... Maybe it's a form of penis dysmorphia, who knows. Oh, and the wife has definitely noticed... I can give her 20 orgasms in a row now with no effort really (she's said it's much longer & wider since I return to PE). It definitely helps keep her more supportive...

Realisitcally, I expect gains to decay & slow down (e.g. to 0.05" per month). I'm curious to see how long it takes to reach 8". This time, I'm in it for the long haul.. I've mapped things out & set monthly goals; if I can average 0.05" per month, then I can reach 8" by December 2025. At this point, I'm only trusting measures I can reach both inside & outside the bathmate tube... I've taken a pretty ridiculous approach to heat & consistency this time. Also, I'm still 2 days on / 1 day off (like I'm still in the newbie phase). I'm getting less & less sore, which is a sign that I'm going to hit diminishing returns... I think my "less is more" & measure / log everything attitude is paying off (although I''m slacking a bit with the logs lately).

All the studying I did in my early days of PE (over 10 years ago) is paying off -- I've refreshed my knowledge & learned new things (I didn't try water pumping or ADS until more recently). I still think hanging is great (some may notice I've written guides) but my approach to PE is not dogmatic.. do what works / adapt when it doesn't & worst case, do a decon break (I'll be watching for signals for when I need to). For now, I plan to continue with current approach, because it's been working.
 
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Also, it seems NIR/FIR after about 3.5 months is making my skin tighter / healthier.. my skin was a bit loose after losing 75lbs / NIR & FIR seem to be helping (I'm dermarolling as well). Wow, I'm really a self-improvement junkie... If people who personally knew me other than my wife were aware of all the things I do, they might think I am crazy
 

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Also, it seems NIR/FIR after about 3.5 months is making my skin tighter / healthier.. my skin was a bit loose after losing 75lbs / NIR & FIR seem to be helping (I'm dermarolling as well). Wow, I'm really a self-improvement junkie... If people who personally knew me other than my wife were aware of all the things I do, they might think I am crazy
75 lbs?, that is amazing. Congrats on that
 
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PE Continues, Growth Stalled, Time for altered Routine
I continue to PE pretty 2 days on, 1 day off.. I've reached 7.3" inside my bathmate consistently. My routine is Bathmate 10 minutes, and ADS 50 minutes.

I use StealthForMen ADS while between full-body NIR & FIR pads for 50 minutes. I use a vacuum ADS, I'm not sure what the maximum safe time is with a vacuum ... I'm going to study what others with strong ADS gains do & I am open to advice on this)