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So over the course of your PE career you have had really good BPEL gains from pumping. How much exactly?
I don't thinking pumping alone did this, I combined with vac ADS.. I gained about 1" over about 1.5 years and since then have stalled with growth.. my routine was vac ads (up to 3.5 hours now) + pumping (10 minutes)
My PE routine was quite sporadic for a few months, and I wasn’t as disciplined with my diet.
PE:
My length hasn't changed in a long time; not since my last reported gain when I hit 7.75" BPEL.. My flaccid seems to still improve; it's less & less ofen that my flaccid shrinks & over the years of PE, my flaccid has gotten more robust where it stays bigger more often. I noticed with this winter I see get shrinkage with the cold, but my "turtle" state today is quite a bit bigger than my pre-pe turtle which was tiny.
Fitness:
I rose to 7% body fat over the last few months and gained some lean mass (I workout about 10 hours per week & do both lifting & cardio). I’m going to cut back down to see what my new floor is.
My floor has slowly risen over the last year. After losing 100 lbs, I lost a lot of muscle, and it has been gradually coming back. I usually get 180 to 200 grams of protein per day and induce ketosis through intermittent fasting, low carb intake, and high intensity training.
Part of why I’ve been cutting to the floor is the desire to clear arterial plaque as much as possible. I know there are limits to this, but there isn’t another known way to do it. On the flip side, staying at extremely low body fat does add stress to the body. I was at about 4.5% to 5% bodyfat for a year solid and only spent a few months above it recently. Post massive weight loss, I'm still working on deciding what my "new normal" is...
PE:
My length hasn't changed in a long time; not since my last reported gain when I hit 7.75" BPEL.. My flaccid seems to still improve; it's less & less ofen that my flaccid shrinks & over the years of PE, my flaccid has gotten more robust where it stays bigger more often. I noticed with this winter I see get shrinkage with the cold, but my "turtle" state today is quite a bit bigger than my pre-pe turtle which was tiny.
Fitness:
I rose to 7% body fat over the last few months and gained some lean mass (I workout about 10 hours per week & do both lifting & cardio). I’m going to cut back down to see what my new floor is.
- 191 lbs: 7% body fat
- 184 lbs: 4% body fat (historical floor)
My floor has slowly risen over the last year. After losing 100 lbs, I lost a lot of muscle, and it has been gradually coming back. I usually get 180 to 200 grams of protein per day and induce ketosis through intermittent fasting, low carb intake, and high intensity training.
Part of why I’ve been cutting to the floor is the desire to clear arterial plaque as much as possible. I know there are limits to this, but there isn’t another known way to do it. On the flip side, staying at extremely low body fat does add stress to the body. I was at about 4.5% to 5% bodyfat for a year solid and only spent a few months above it recently. Post massive weight loss, I'm still working on deciding what my "new normal" is...
I've had no gains for a long time --> it's time for decon break
As a PE newbie I gained year 1, then stopped gaining in following year(s). I left PE for a long time, came back & gained the first year again with near nothing the 2nd year. The pattern seems to be my tissues adapt too much & I can't gain (after about 1 year of PE), so I'm going to stop. I'm hoping a 3 month decon break is long enough for a reset.
As a PE newbie I gained year 1, then stopped gaining in following year(s). I left PE for a long time, came back & gained the first year again with near nothing the 2nd year. The pattern seems to be my tissues adapt too much & I can't gain (after about 1 year of PE), so I'm going to stop. I'm hoping a 3 month decon break is long enough for a reset.
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Curious if this pattern held true for length and girth or just one or the other?
truth is, i've never worked on girth, it's all a byproduct of length gains... i learned PE during the "length first, girth second" era... for what its worth though, the byproduct girth gains seemed to have stopped too (pumping & vac ADS both give a little girth; hanging gave a lot of base girth)... I've not tracked girth as closely though ...
I'm on an extended decon break for now.
My observation is this:
- PE year 1: 0.75" BPEL gained (hanging, used a lot of force)
- PE year 2: no gains
- 10 year decon break
- PE year 3: 1" BPEL gained (using mostly 1-2% strain most of the time)
- PE year 4: no gains
4-6 month decon break (the present)
I’m seeing a pattern here; both tries at PE, I stopped gaining after 1 year, and I gained only after a long decon break in between. It’s why I’m doing a full decon break right now (it’s been about 4 months, I’m debating how much longer to go).
Most published materials tell us something like 6-8 weeks is probably enough of a break, but none of these studies are based on multi-year tissue transformation & most are not even based on penile tissue. In other words, most of the studies are loose analogies at best & not truly representative of what we do in the PE community (many of us go year after year, slowly making our gains — while most studies are a few weeks/ months & they end).
I’m leaning towards the belief that many PE’ers (at least anyone like me) must take periodic full cold-turkey decon breaks, or gains will stop (it’s happened to me twice now). There’s an article somewhere by Bib where he talks about how different guys have different tissue types & he has a belief (that’s probably true) that his tissue was ideal for elongation & PE (this could explain hard gainers). Perhaps I’m somewhere in the middle where I can make good gains, but then I stall unless I stop for a while…
My observation is this:
- PE year 1: 0.75" BPEL gained (hanging, used a lot of force)
- PE year 2: no gains
- 10 year decon break
- PE year 3: 1" BPEL gained (using mostly 1-2% strain most of the time)
- PE year 4: no gains
4-6 month decon break (the present)
I’m seeing a pattern here; both tries at PE, I stopped gaining after 1 year, and I gained only after a long decon break in between. It’s why I’m doing a full decon break right now (it’s been about 4 months, I’m debating how much longer to go).
Most published materials tell us something like 6-8 weeks is probably enough of a break, but none of these studies are based on multi-year tissue transformation & most are not even based on penile tissue. In other words, most of the studies are loose analogies at best & not truly representative of what we do in the PE community (many of us go year after year, slowly making our gains — while most studies are a few weeks/ months & they end).
I’m leaning towards the belief that many PE’ers (at least anyone like me) must take periodic full cold-turkey decon breaks, or gains will stop (it’s happened to me twice now). There’s an article somewhere by Bib where he talks about how different guys have different tissue types & he has a belief (that’s probably true) that his tissue was ideal for elongation & PE (this could explain hard gainers). Perhaps I’m somewhere in the middle where I can make good gains, but then I stall unless I stop for a while…
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Do you notice the signals of when the stall is coming or is this more theory at this point testing out? I ask because I am finishing month 15 of length training 9 months or so of girth work and starting to notice my length is stalling with the same effort and pushing weight has negative PI effects for me. I also notice now when I need a break my D is more rigid and less floopy and flaccid hang is usually shorter by about 1/2"... Sweet spot for growth for me has been 3-4 lbs ~3 hours a day. I'm blabbering but I have been pondering removing length stimulus completely for 3-6 months and doing girth only in that time but wondering if that still is not enough "rest" vs doing length only for 60-90mins to "cement" so I find your log at this stage very interesting.
hi @Whatit2ya ! great to hear from you
i dont notice the stall becuase for me, its totally normal to go 4 or even 5 months with no gains & then suddenly gain 1/3" or 1/2".. my gains have always been "jumpy"
on other topic...
my plan this time:
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1-pumping (i'm slowly working up from 3 minutes to 10 max)
2-jelquing (i'm doing 10 minutes a day, but starting very light)
i haven't done jelqs on a regular basis in over a decade so i think doing those again might help convert BPFSL gains to BPEL gains
3-ADS .. i'll go until ADS gains stop... last time, this took around 1.3 years, as i slowly increased from 30 minute to 4 hour sessions
i have no hanging setup where i currently live, but i have been thinking about hanging again...
also, i lost size coming back (max historical BPEL several months ago was 7.75"); but I lost 1/2" and was down to 7.25" BPEL a little while back
i think some of it was EQ/ who knows what else, but i was back at 7.5" within a few weeks
my observation is last time around, i kept thinking it was a measurement error, so i never mentioned it, but a few years back when i came back to PE, i was down to 6.5" (from 6.75"). this time around, i came to the realization that i'm not measuring wrong, i really am losing size, even though I "cemented gains" for several months.. but clearly neither was a "permanent" loss..
however, considering I lost 1/2" after taking several months off, is making me think to hit 8"+ permanently, i may want to target 8.5" --
last time i gained over 1" in just over a year, but that was after no PE for a decade+, so I'm expecting (probably?) less gains this time.. but, since i've already reached 7.75", I technically only have 0.75" to go (to 8.5") so I am hoping to reach 8" and beyond (perhaps 8.5") within a year of my return
i'm doing doing length first/ girth second. i'm nearly "done" (I think), and i look forward to finally going for 6"+ girth MSEG (I'm still around 5.5" MSEG, but base erect girth is 6.5" due to the years of hanging).
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There's excellent maintenance/therapeutic benefits to more moderate exercise. It's also more sustainable over long periods without requiring cycling.
i've even noticed a lot more spontaneous eretions too (since i started doing jelqs too). lots of positive indicators
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"Light" PE is great for this purpose. Pumping, light jelqs, Kegels and the like can work even when not pushed to maximum limits.
yes, i probably need a permanent maintenance routine like this, even after i hit my goals
