Thank you for the post, TeoDeles

It is very interesting, and I would like to explore it a little more.
First, everything you said in your thread is correct. However, it has nothing to do with LOT Theory

LOT Theory has already been debunked and refuted. The TUG is just the contraction of the BC muscle, which is felt mostly in the upward stretch. The LOT is different for everyone simply because the BC muscle of each one has different development/hypertrophy/flexibility.
Second, why does a muscle strain occur? By one of two mechanisms:
1 - The muscle has been stretched beyond its limits (your case)
2 - The muscle has been forced to contract too strongly (my case)
Third, let's all take a look at this image, where we can see the muscle insertions of the IC and BC muscles:
https://www.pegym.com/forums/member...re103609-ischiocavernosus-bulbocavernosus.jpg
1 - The BC (5) will be stretched if the penis is stretched straight up. And it will be
passively contracted if the penis is stretched straight down.
2 - The IC is different, because it has two muscle bundles (3 and 4). If we think about the image, we can understand that neither of the two bundles is stretched aggressively in any position (up or down). Only “semi-stretched”. However, both bundles will be
passively contracted if the penis is in the intermediate position (straight out). It is for this reason that we can make the erect penis “jump” (through a Frontal Kegel) in any body position. When standing, the penis jumps upwards (bundle 4 contractions). When we are lying down, the penis "jumps downwards" (bundle 3 contractions).
Whenever I am doing a 12 ocklock stretching ... an automatic kegel is happening in the beginning of the stretch ... As long as I am holding this stretching direction is acting like a high intensity Kegel in my PF. Whenever I am stretching UPWARDS (in my case its my TUG direction) it feels like I have performed like 100 kegels
Just like when you stretch too much any other muscle (hamstrings, adductors,…). You feel defensive contractions. Your BC is the same. He has to gain flexibility little by little. And that is why stretching the penis straight up makes you more prone to muscle damage in the BC muscle. It is the direction in which the "tug of war" (see HANS Protocol) is most intense, if you do a Kegel or a Kegel occurs at the same time.
It is because of all this that I couldn't have spontaneous erections for a few weeks, after the injury (Hard Flaccid). And when I had the first erections, the penis had that downward bend. Because any erection leads to a
passive stretching of the BC and IC (see image above) and muscles with little flexibility or in a post-injury contracted state cannot be easily stretched. And it is counterproductive for the healing of the acute injury.
For this reason, attempting sex or masturbation after the injury (Hard Flaccid) is highly counterproductive to the healing process. If someone has Hard Flaccid, they must do complete sexual abstinence until the body starts to have spontaneous/morning erections. It is only at that moment that the BC, the IC and the penis are prepared to have an erection. Until then, we have to give it absolute rest/very light squeezes.
If someone wants to do penile stretching straight up, they have to stretch with less intensity and gradually increase, little by little, just like when we train flexibility in any other muscle.
I truly believe that one of the unknown so far reasons of PEers that are creating an overtensed PF through PE is stretching at the TUG direction
And I think you're totally right. (except for the LOT part

). Because stretching upwards creates the most intense “Tug of War”.
So conclusion ... (…) stretching DOWNWORDS relaxing the PF
Yes and no... No, because, in someone with Hard Flaccid, I don't recommend doing Stretching/Hanging straight down (nor any kind of stretches) in order to relax the pelvic floor. It will make the injury worse. Yes, because, in a healthy person, you are not stretching any of the muscles too aggressively (perhaps the upper bundle of the IC (4) stretches a little too much if the stretch is really aggressive). They are only semi-stretched. You are stretching them applying a comfortable stretch to all of them. That is why Involuntary Kegels in this position are rare. However, if you do a Voluntary Kegel in this position, you are more prone to strain the upper bundle (4) of the IC. Especially, if the penis is not completely flaccid. Because the IC gets more
passively stretched the bigger your erection is. And that is why I strained my IC muscle, doing a Frontal Kegel, during penetration, while the penis was in a downward position.
In other words:
- You injured your BC muscle because you lifted 400 pounds from a full-stretch position (1 - The muscle has been stretched beyond its limits.)
- I injured my IC muscle because I lifted 800 pounds from a semi-stretch position. (2 - The muscle has been forced to contract too strongly)
It is because of all this that the safest position to do penile stretches is straight out. Because (1) none of the muscles (IC or BC) is fully stretched, because (2) you are stretching in the anatomical direction of all muscle fibers and because (3) all structures (ligaments, tunica albuginea, muscles,...) are being stretched together and uniformly.