There is a study where it did in lab rats. It increases lh production. A ridiculous amount would be required. But you can't say for certain it wouldn't.
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There is a study where it did in lab rats. It increases lh production. A ridiculous amount would be required. But you can't say for certain it wouldn't.
There is a study where it did in lab rats. It increases lh production. A ridiculous amount would be required. But you can't say for certain it wouldn't.
Care to link to the study?
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The study quoted there, Effects of Eurycoma longifolia jack on laevat... [Arch Pharm Res. 2001] - PubMed - NCBI, does not state that penis size can be increased by Tongkat Ali. The only thing that increases is testosterone production. Increasing testosterone, even naturally, will not make the penis grow, as the penis does not grow because of testosterone.
The only things Tongkat Ali will do is help promote the production of testosterone, this increasing libido and sexual function as the study shows. Nothing more.
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The study quoted there, Effects of Eurycoma longifolia jack on laevat... [Arch Pharm Res. 2001] - PubMed - NCBI, does not state that penis size can be increased by Tongkat Ali. The only thing that increases is testosterone production. Increasing testosterone, even naturally, will not make the penis grow, as the penis does not grow because of testosterone.
The only things Tongkat Ali will do is help promote the production of testosterone, this increasing libido and sexual function as the study shows. Nothing more.
what if it increased dht?
what if it increased dht?
Still wouldn't increase the size of the penis and the penis alone.
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Still wouldn't increase the size of the penis and the penis alone.
hmmm i read some where that DHT is the missing link to making the penis grow in puberty... Dont ask for a link because i dont have one..
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The study quoted there, Effects of Eurycoma longifolia jack on laevat... [Arch Pharm Res. 2001] - PubMed - NCBI, does not state that penis size can be increased by Tongkat Ali. The only thing that increases is testosterone production. Increasing testosterone, even naturally, will not make the penis grow, as the penis does not grow because of testosterone.
The only things Tongkat Ali will do is help promote the production of testosterone, this increasing libido and sexual function as the study shows. Nothing more.
Says it would cause the testicles and surrounding tissue to grow through lydig cell stimulation. Same thing that happens during puberty. Take it for what it's worth.
Says it would cause the testicles and surrounding tissue to grow through lydig cell stimulation. Same thing that happens during puberty. Take it for what it's worth.
Where in the 4 page study does it say that?
The following is not from the study and is only of opinion from the person who linked to the studies abstract.
"I do think that this is not sufficiently emphasized by anti-doping campaigns: athletes who dope with testosterone and anabolic steroids will cause their penises to become as small as their thumbs or little fingers, and unfortunately, if exogenous testosterone or anabolic steroids are taken for some time, the loss in size can be permanent. The effect of tongkat ali is the opposite. Because tongkat ali stimulates the body’s own testosterone production in the Leydig cells of the testicles, the testicles and surrounding tissue will grow in size. (During puberty, it's a spur in Leydig cell activity, which causes a boy's sexual organs to become the size of a man's. Furthermore, testosterone over-production endocrine disorders during adolescence cause oversized male genitalia.) "
Leydig Cell testosterone production is also not the cause of penile growth in puberty. If it was, testosterone alone would be enough to chemically increase the size of the penis, of which it cannot. Testicle size will increase from a higher Leydig cell activity, but not penile size.
I would do more reading into the studies themselves and not the opinions surrounding the studies if I were you.
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That is a statement based on the 13 pages of articles he linked. I prefer his take then yours.
No, it's an opinion on unfounded information, something not even listed in the study he quoted. Please, show me in the specific study where it says that it can increase the size of the penis. The study is only 4 pages long, so it shouldn't be so hard for you to do such.
I'll give you a hint though on where it says it though.
The study was done on increasing test levels of castrated rats.
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His statement may not be based off that particular study. There is a link on the pages he cites as references. It is 13 pages long.
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A scientific article published in the Archives of Pharmacological Research has now shown that tongkat ali can cause a size increase in male reproductive structures. An abstract of the article can be accessed online at the following URL (please note that the scientific name of tongkat ali is Eurycoma longifolia jack):
Looks like we don't have access to the full article. How did u miss this?
Looks like we don't have access to the full article. How did u miss this?
That is the 4 page study I was talking about. The study does NOT state that Tongkat Ali can or will increase the size of the penis. Those are the article publishers words and only his words.A scientific article published in the Archives of Pharmacological Research has now shown that tongkat ali can cause a size increase in male reproductive structures. An abstract of the article can be accessed online at the following URL (please note that the scientific name of tongkat ali is Eurycoma longifolia jack):
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Please read the following post again.
The study quoted there, Effects of Eurycoma longifolia jack on laevat... [Arch Pharm Res. 2001] - PubMed - NCBI, does not state that penis size can be increased by Tongkat Ali. The only thing that increases is testosterone production. Increasing testosterone, even naturally, will not make the penis grow, as the penis does not grow because of testosterone.
The only things Tongkat Ali will do is help promote the production of testosterone, this increasing libido and sexual function as the study shows. Nothing more.
This was a study on increasing the natural production of testosterone in castrated lab rats in an attempt to prove or disprove Tongkat Ali's effects on increasing the male libido. It was not about, nor did it find, any evidence of Tongkat Ali increasing the size of the penis, testicles, or any surrounding tissue. One key reason why they could not even test to see if the Tongkat Ali could even increase the size of those organs was the rats simply did not have them attached to their bodies anymore. You simply cannot measure growth of a body part that has been removed from the body.
