SIDE NOTE # 3 : Size really does not matter

[RONINVU]

RONINVU




Now is bigger better ? like I said I have been married for some time now and I can tell you first hand at 5.4" girth was fine I usually asked wife do you want to make love and when making love doing vagina penetration with my penis I worked it meaning thrusting at a medium sometimes fast pace for a few minutes to make her orgasm 1 time !
Now at my larger size 7.33 X 5.950" MSEG she has to lube up and takes me around 2 minutes to get fully in her and within 2 - 4 minutes of just getting comfortable she's having an orgasm and I will have to stop or go real slow until she is not so sensitive then I can move it slow or medium pace and she will have another orgasm with the larger size penis.

ok every time I hear about a married man getting gains I hear them make comments that suggest that the bigger size affects the sex positively.

And I say it again every time... Thats why I think that a slightly larger unit can improve sex for guys who have average size or less.

please someone show me otherwise cause I know Im pushing limits with my goal. 9" L 7" G

 

[ultimape]

ABOUT TESTOSTERONE & PENIS SIZE

FACT : Now , it is actually true that testosterone may affect penile growth in young teens . High levels of testosterone up until the ages of 15-17 may lead to some penile growth . In fact testosterone is used in micropenis cases .

MYTH : However recent studies have shown that on average this leads to increases in about 1/3 inch . So it is not like people are growing massive penises all of a sudden because of testosterone .

MYTH 2 : This increase will not be valid for users that have already entered mature age and furthermore , has people have pointed out here , steroid use is probably the dumbest thing you can do if you have any respect for your penis health ( and your general health ) .

TESTOSTERONE LEVELS : BLACK VS WHITE

FACT : it is true that Black guys have higher testosterone levels than White guys .

MYTH : However this needs to be taken with a grain of salt , and I remind you that this is one of the aspects used by racist groups . Why ? Because high testosterone levels are also linked to a lower IQ - which lead many people to immediately make 2 conclusions :

a ) All Black guys have huge dicks
b ) All Black guys are less inteligent

What you have to understand is that the differences in IQ and Penis Size are not significant in real life .

KINSEY STUDY : According to the Kinsey report the average difference between Black men and White men is only 0.1 inches .When you look at this number one can in fact make the claim : See , black guys are bigger !

HOWEVER , what you are missing is that on average the difference is not statistically that significant at all . We are talking about an average difference of 0.1 inches on this study.

PONCHIETTI STUDY : This study found no correlation between size and race .

WESSELS STUDY : These studies showed no prediction of erect penis size as based on height, race, or size of hands/feet/flaccid penis size. Black, White, and Asian men were all compared, and no statistically significant difference was found among the races.

WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION : The WHO specifications feature condom widths of 5.3 cm for Africa, 5.2 cm for Europe and 4.9 cm for Asia. As you can see, the differences between groups are statistically small.

CONCLUSION : Depending on the study you get different results . One might say there is an average difference of 0.1 inches between Black & White men , other studies show no difference at all .

FACT : The fact is that there are no credible studies that clearly show that there is any significant difference between Black and White penises .

It's people who choose the live in this myth and perpetuate it .

My justification for this is the following :

FLACCID SIZE : BLACK VS WHITE

FACT : Black guys have larger penises when flaccid . This is a fact and shown in different report . Black guys tend to be showers and White guys tend to be growers .

So if you are guy who has seen many black dicks in locker-rooms or if you are one of those guys that stare in the urinol , you might have been left with the perception that black guys are bigger .

MYTH : However to think that this translates into erect lenght is a myth . Studies show no different in erect size or only an insignificant difference .

People , stop living the myth .

ON AVERAGE , black penises and white penises do not really vary in erect size .

 

[ultimape]

THE POINT OF THIS THREAD

My point when starting this thread was to say that penis size does not affect your ability to sexually satisfy a women . This meaning that , if you are longer than 3 inches when erect , you already have the tools to make her orgasm .

No one is saying that a girl will not feel the diference between a 5 inches and 9 inches . Girls will obviously feel the difference .

However understand the following :

LENGTH VS GIRTH

Most girls will be more receptive to an increase in girth than an increase in length . In general a wider girth will be more pleasurable to a girl than length .

I am not a girl and cannot find any studies regarding this matter to back what I am saying , but it is my opinion ( and I am saying this as my opinion alone ) that a 6 inch length with 6 inches girth will be more pleasurable to women than a 9 inch length with 4 inches girth .

I also remember reading that the best-selling dildos that women get are between 6 lenght , 5.3 girth so I guess that tells us something about what women like . If women all preferred monster cocks the most popular dildos would be much bigger .

UNDERSTANDING SIZE PREFERENCES

One comment we seem to get a lot is the mentioning of size queens . Yes , these girls exist . There is a specific part of the women who prefer and crave for monster cocks .

This however is not the majority of the female population at all - it is a small niche .

If this is the kind of girl you are looking for - then yes you will live a very unhappy life unless you grow your penis to monstrous proportions .

Please note that most women will probably prefer something in the 5.5-7 inches range in length and 4.5-5.5 girth . This is what most women can accommodate without feeling pain and risk becoming uncomfortable for them .

Also please note that most women CANNOT accommodate over 7 inches in length without your penis hitting their cervix - which causes pain .For many women it takes only 5 or 6 inches for this to occur depending on the position .

UNDERSTANDING WOMEN PLEASURE

Women have the following main focus of pleasure :

1 - Clitoris . Size is irrelevant here , this is 100% technique .
2 - G-Spot . You need to have at least 3 inches when erect to hit it right and , again , this is 90% technique and 10% endurace ( because for some cases you might need to hit the g-spot for 5-10 minutes before a woman orgasms so you need to last as long . In my experience if you know what you are doing most girls will orgasm in 2-4 minutes )

and the third and most important focus of pleasure is....

3 - THEIR BRAIN . Feeling a connection to a partner is essential for a women to release her sexuality and pleasure . This has nothing to do with penis size .

 

[NP97]

Another great post!

 

[belenkok]

wessels study - 80 men were studied with average erect length of 12.9cm which is 5.1 inch
From the article:
"Phallic volume was computed with a cylindrical model. Of the patients 54 (67.5%) were white, 16 (20%) were black and 10 (12.58) were Asian" - you know whats its called? a scientific comedy

pinochietti study - well first of all you forgot to mention it was on Italian men only (3300 which makes it a bit more reliable study), and for ages of 17-19 only. Now the best part of it is this "We also observed that the penile dimensions are highly correlated with height and weight"... You chose a wrong study mate, not working for you

 

[ultimape]

Yes you are very right , the studies have a lot of flaws . Unfortunately this has been a major problem when trying to determine and compare penis sizes .

Studies don't work for me or against me , its just that sometimes they are all we got to try and have intelligent discussions . And , as I have said before , feel free to bring new studies to the table that might add something new and back what you are saying if you have them . I am sure it would be interesting for all of us to see.

Besides , at the moment I am not quite sure what it is that you are trying to say anymore .

Your claims are that :

- Big men have bigger penises
- Black guys have bigger penises

And to both of these claims you say that testosterone is the main culprit .

Is this what you are defending ?

Ok fair enough .

Now would you please care to elaborate ? In your view ,

1 - What is a big guy ( please specify your requirements for such evaluation )
2 - What is the average size of big guys compare to the size on non-big guys ?
3 - What is the average size of black guys compared to the size on non-black guys ?

If you can answer these questions I am sure all of us here at pegym.com would be nourished from such knowledge and insight .


OH AND BTW

There have been studies that link high levels of testosterone with homosexuality .

So I guess that :

Big Guys are gay .
Black guys are gay .

See how that works ?

 

[Zanarkand]

Zanarkand as in FFX?

ye

 

[Johnny Butt]

Giving her a G-spot orgasm is easier with just one finger than with your penis.

 

[ultimape]

Giving her a G-spot orgasm is easier with just one finger than with your penis.

It is easier to master the finger technique yes .

But once you master the penis technique you find that they are both just as easy .

 

[belenkok]

All i ever wanted to say is that all of your 'sidenotes' are fairy tales....

1. girls have a clue - maybe not in numbers but definitely visually, if she said that her ex was 9 then she just probably means he was bigger or much bigger, they dont usually measure it so u cant expect them to be accurate

2. there is a very plausible chance that a girl has met some huge ones down the road, which u claim to be impossible (thats the only reason i brought up big guys)

3. and size does matter for a shitload of reasons i mentioned before

 

[Zanarkand]

i know guys with 6 inches that could bang better than anyone above 8"

size does matter but not as much as girls and guys make it sound

 

[ultimape]

So I guess you are not very interested in answering the questions below . I wonder why ?

If you don't or can't explain your notions better there is no point on even having this discussing . You are just making bold and nebulous statements about big guys , black guys and penis size .

It makes it virtually impossible to even understand the details of what you are trying to say or the depth of the fantasy myths that you choose to believe in .

I would really be grateful if you can elaborate on the following :

In your view ,

1 - What is a big guy ( please specify your requirements for such evaluation )
2 - What is the average size of big guys compare to the size on non-big guys ?
3 - What is the average size of black guys compared to the size on non-black guys ?

1. girls have a clue - maybe not in numbers but definitely visually, if she said that her ex was 9 then she just probably means he was bigger or much bigger, they dont usually measure it so u cant expect them to be accurate

Of course that a girl will know the difference visually but the fact that they don't have a clue in numbers makes all the difference . Why ? Because in conversations with you or with friends they will say they have been with a 9 inch cock when in fact they have only been with a 7 inch cock .

Do you not see why this matters ?

Can you not comprehend how this affects the perception men have about sizes ?

If they do not have a clue in numbers we get this oral contamination that is spread on girl talks and among men that lead us to believe that most women have been with monster cocks when in fact it is quite the opposite .

Most women have never been with a monster cock .

2. there is a very plausible chance that a girl has met some huge ones down the road, which u claim to be impossible (thats the only reason i brought up big guys)

I do not claim to be impossible .

I say that is statistically very unlikely .

Brother , think about it for a second .

First of all , in order for you to answer that question yourself you have to decide in your mind the following thing :

a ) How many partners has a girl been with by the time she is 30 ?
b ) From the sexually active population what is the % of men that you think is above 8 inches.

If you give me answers to both these questions then the math regarding the probability of a monster cock encounter is very easy to do .

3. and size does matter for a shitload of reasons i mentioned before

When it comes to women orgasm size is irrelevant ( or anything above 3 inches to be accurate will do ) , unless you are dealing size-queens and a very niche part of the female population that is obsessed with penis size . I can assure you this is not the vast majority of the female population .

If you are telling me a bigger size will allow you to do more positions or just make things just as BJ visually more interesting , that is obvious and no one will argue that .

But the point was specifically in what concerns bringing women to orgasms . That was my point .

And for that point, there is no doubt that penis size is irrelevant .

Its about technique and the bound .

 

[darinsixpack]

So I guess you are not very interested in answering the questions below . I wonder why ?

If you don't or can't explain your notions better there is no point on even having this discussing . You are just making bold and nebulous statements about big guys , black guys and penis size .

It makes it virtually impossible to even understand the details of what you are trying to say or the depth of the fantasy myths that you choose to believe in .

I would really be grateful if you can elaborate on the following :

In your view ,

1 - What is a big guy ( please specify your requirements for such evaluation )
2 - What is the average size of big guys compare to the size on non-big guys ?
3 - What is the average size of black guys compared to the size on non-black guys ?



Of course that a girl will know the difference visually but the fact that they don't have a clue in numbers makes all the difference . Why ? Because in conversations with you or with friends they will say they have been with a 9 inch cock when in fact they have only been with a 7 inch cock .

Do you not see why this matters ?

Can you not comprehend how this affects the perception men have about sizes ?

If they do not have a clue in numbers we get this oral contamination that is spread on girl talks and among men that lead us to believe that most women have been with monster cocks when in fact it is quite the opposite .

Most women have never been with a monster cock .



I do not claim to be impossible .

I say that is statistically very unlikely .

Brother , think about it for a second .

First of all , in order for you to answer that question yourself you have to decide in your mind the following thing :

a ) How many partners has a girl been with by the time she is 30 ?
b ) From the sexually active population what is the % of men that you think is above 8 inches.

If you give me answers to both these questions then the math regarding the probability of a monster cock encounter is very easy to do .



When it comes to women orgasm size is irrelevant ( or anything above 3 inches to be accurate will do ) , unless you are dealing size-queens and a very niche part of the female population that is obsessed with penis size . I can assure you this is not the vast majority of the female population .

If you are telling me a bigger size will allow you to do more positions or just make things just as BJ visually more interesting , that is obvious and no one will argue that .

But the point was specifically in what concerns bringing women to orgasms . That was my point .

And for that point, there is no doubt that penis size is irrelevant .

Its about technique and the bound .

The thing you fail to recognize in all your well intended posts here, is that sex is all encompassing. Just like with food. Have a glass of wine, be in a very nice atmosphere, be told by others how wonderful it is and the power of environment and suggestion on the mind takes over and makes that dinning experience seem much better. And to the diner, it no doubt was. Your arguing simple mechanics of size and hitting certain places on a woman and this might be true. But bottom line is, for many women, bigger is better. It's the thought, the lusting, the feeling of "more of a man is entering me" more of a man wants me and then the sensation is more friction and stronger to her with a bigger penis. It's all encompassing to her.

I like to say the perfect size, is more based on compatibility of the physical size of both the man and woman. I've been with over 130 women with my 6X5.5 and I can say for 100000000% sureness, that when I fit just right, it's heaven for me and her. And with others who had bigger vaginas, it was average, a struggle, or horrible in a few cases. Big and good are relevant to who you're with. So yeah, bigger is better to many, many women....there is the visual, the pre thoughts, the "more man" the mental stimulation that radiates to a women from just being bigger. To try to imply that there is just no different to her between 3" and 7" is just rediculous.

 

[CUSP82]

Just a reminder to keep things nice here.It could be a nice discussion and informative so let's keep it that way. Besides I'm really grumpy today.Anybody got any left over pizza? I'm starving.

 

[Closed039]

Testosterone?

Injecting synthetic testosterone in an effort to manipulate biological hormone levels is natural?

 

[waff]

Seeing how girls prefer girth over length makes me sad. I'm seriously worried that any girl I get with won't feel a thing with my 4"EG 6"BPEL dick :/

 

[Closed039]

Well as I have said on site several times, my gf actually prefered my penis when it was smaller. I think this says something important that many guys should take mote of.

Ah, but Peg...you would make a good politician. What you stated is indeed fact, but you neglected to mention (well actually you did mention it in a prior post) that your penis when it was "smaller" was something like 7.75 x 5.5.

What would your girl prefer - your current size or your pre-PE size?

 

[Closed039]

I am posting now three times in a row - sorry - I just was responding as I went through the thread. This thread has devolved into people talking past each other and citing made up numbers from flawed studies in order to support their own opinions.

 

[Johnny Butt]

Seeing how girls prefer girth over length makes me sad. I'm seriously worried that any girl I get with won't feel a thing with my 4"EG 6"BPEL dick :/

If she loves you, it doesn't matter. Plenty of other ways to make a loved one orgasm. Just don't try to chase the shallow ones and one night stands...

And you're her to grow, so cheer up. In the meantime, try to learn more and master oral and finger skills. Don't forget, many girls won't cum during intercourse, regardless of penis size.

 

[avg guy]

RONINVU



The honest answer to your question, newer larger penis yes it makes a difference you can find many threads here
with members in success forum.
I have been with a lot more women then 95% of the people in general with lots of experience gained along the way
and have been happily married with child for some time, now that being said, just letting you know I am talking from experience here at my old 6.4 X5.4" MSEG I have never been told I was big also have never been told I was small !
I can tell you from sleeping with many women there have been majority of them which felt very good with a 5.4" mid shaft girth and can remember only 2 being on the looser side and remember the few that were on the tighter side
were it was wrapped around me like a tight glove and felt really great and I am sure they will remember the nice full feeling I gave them also.
Now is bigger better ? like I said I have been married for some time now and I can tell you first hand at 5.4" girth was fine I usually asked wife do you want to make love and when making love doing vagina penetration with my penis I worked it meaning thrusting at a medium sometimes fast pace for a few minutes to make her orgasm 1 time !
Now at my larger size 7.33 X 5.950" MSEG she has to lube up and takes me around 2 minutes to get fully in her and within 2 - 4 minutes of just getting comfortable she's having an orgasm and I will have to stop or go real slow until she is not so sensitive then I can move it slow or medium pace and she will have another orgasm with the larger size penis.
before I worked for it and she came 1 time now I can move like a damn turtle with 3 broken legs and have her orgasms
2 -3 times, and she asks me most of the time now Do I want to make love.
I told her about this post laughing and she said yes it made a big difference in our sex life.
yes you can make a girl orgasm with your finger or tongue but that is good for foreplay, guys want to use their dicks
and a lot of women want the real thing.
Another scenario you are with a women who you love very dearly shes great in every way possible way sex is good
and you do get off but she is a little on the looser side and she starts doing lots of kegals or has the surgery and gets tightened up now is sex going to feel and get better ? I would bet the farm on it and she will enjoy it more also.


RONINVU,
Your question again
if there was a guy who had a average 5" L 5" G shlong and had great orgasmic sex with his girl. now this guy feel inatequit and joins the pegym without his girl knowing. do you think if he got up to a 7" L 6" G that it would be the same sexual experi ence for his girl or would the sex feel alittle more intence for her.


To answer your question if you are not with a very very small girl who could not handle 7" length or 6 " girth your answer would be yes.

This is solid logic - I don't know how this point of view could be regarded as anything less than true.