SIDE NOTE # 3 : Size really does not matter

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on my first post when starting a PE log I made some rants that are probably suited for off-log topic . My third random note was about how size just has nothing to do with satisfying a lady . I feel that most guys that are more experienced ( and probably older ) know this and understand this . But I still think that there are a lot of men out there that think that they need to be big to sexually satisfy a woman and that is simply not true . Here are my thoughts :

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SIDE NOTE # 3 : Size really does not matter


When it comes to satisfying women and making them orgasm , size has nothing to do with it ( aside from micropenis issues ) . To simplify there are 3 ways for her to reach orgasm through intercourse ( while your penis is inside her ) :

a ) Clitoris orgasm 1 . If you want her to orgasm this way you have to align your pubic bone with her clitoris and gently rubbing it . I believe this is called the CAT technique . Focus is on the clitoris here and Size is irrelevant here .

b ) Clitoris orgasm 2 . You or her masturbate the clitoris while having sex so she can orgasm . Focus is on the clitoris here and Size is irrelevant here .

b ) Vaginal . For this you have to hit the G-Spot . The G-Spot is located 1-3 inches up the front vaginal wall . So this BS that you need to have a huge cock to reach into mysterious places is simply not true . If you have at least 3 inches you can hit her right where it matters and make her orgasm . Focus is 1-3 inches up the front vaginal wall and Size is almost irrelevant here ( since you need to be only 3 inches to reach it ).

note : if you can last a long time in bed you should start slow and only go for the kill when she is very well lubricated and wet . If you don't last a long time during intercourse my advice is for you to make long foreplay , specially orally , so you only start intercourse when are clitoris and g-spot are well engorged and pumped out . This way she will be really ready to release an orgasm .

Bottom Line : This goes out specially to all of you guys that are virgins or that have had very little experiences and still think that your lack of size is keeping you from ever satisfying a woman . Remember .. you do not need size to make a woman orgasm !
 
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everyhting you say about penis size etc is true, but for a woman that was with very few guys, they wonder how it is to be with a huge guy, it's curiosity, they think that "hey if the little 5 inch guy is so good in bed, an 8 incher must be awesome" but all womens after experience say hat it's not the size that matters but how you use it, but for those who had few guys, big penis is somethig they hunt for because they think the bigger the better especially that most girls lie to their friends about how their last night with an 8 incher was awesome ( when in relity an 8 incher in womans eyes in probs 6 inches ) and because females are awesome at gossip, rumors spread, lies and BS along with them, and that is where "the bigger the better" myth comes from
 

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Great post Ultimape!

I've slept with a fair few women, each with different preferences and bodies and I couldn't agree more. I'm a reasonably average guy at the moment and I've never had trouble getting a girl off. It's all about finding out what works for her, enjoying yourself, and watching the magic unfold.
Most girls find confidence and situation a lot more sexually stimulating than anything else. To get their juices going, play to their fantasies. My girlfriend described it perfectly the other night (sadly, in reference to those crappy 'Twilight' books...) that girls tend to like either vampires or werewolves (metaphorically speaking). Vampires are mysterious and keep them (the girls) guessing, they intrigue their minds and make them feel like they are doing something forbidden, something secret, unexpected and dangerous. Werewolves, on the other hand, are less complex but raw and passionate, the kind of guy that picks them up and reams them against the wall in a steamy shower cubicle. Either is hot to her but both fantasies are based purely on intensity, and that's what matters to all girls.
It depends whether you're the enigmatic, brooding type or the alpha, powerful type (or neither - in case, like me, you don't like Twilight...) but show her that all your focus is on her, be confident in what you do, put your heart and soul into every thrust and even a real bitch of a size-queen will be shuddering so much with pleasure she'll think you're packing 12"!
 

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How do we know what women wonder about? It has been said that if a guy pleases her wth a 6 inch dick then she'll wonder what it would be like to have a 8inch one? How do we know they think that? This is a great thread; here where we have tons of threads about how women don't like men with smaller dicks and leave their guy for a bigger hung guy, this thread actually makes sense and it's true. How many guys, other than the few posters on here, will believe it?
 

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Exactly CUSP82 ...

For example , I like to try different things in bed and positions etc.. But to be honest when it comes to hitting her G-spot I only have basically 3 main moves/positions/thrusts where I get them to cum with a accuracy of about 90% . And with all of them I actually have to keep most of my dick OUT.. not IN...! Half of my dick is NOT penetrating her so its only 3.5 inches that are doing the hard work .

And this is because if I insert all my 7.1 inches I will either hit the cervix ( which is painful to them ) or I will simply not have the right angle/direction to hit her g-spot and make her cum .

I think a lot of guys think girls cum if you hit them wayyyy in the limits of their vagina , but again , you need to hit them in the first 1-3 inches .
 

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Make a deal with you Ulti; you go to all the threads where guys are moaning that women don't like them because they're not hung like a horse and I'll provide you with cookies for the rest of your life. Fair deal? ( because I and all the other mods have anwsered that question 1,356,266 times but who's counting)
 
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ahah ok deal .

but seriously , I'm sure that so many guys probably start PE for the "wrong" reasons . PE should be about self-improvement and , more importantly , about your sexual health !

If your number one concern is to satisfy the ladies and make them orgasm then you need to learn more about sexuality and how women experience pleasure - which ultimately has nothing to do with size at all .

But i'm sure you still get your fair amount of moaning CUSP82 ....

I think you guys should definitely consider creating a special sticky that tackles this issue regarding size , and women satisfaction/orgasms .. (maybe it already exists , I haven't really looked )
 
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We got 10,000 of them. Next one we get that's upset about his size I'm telling him to pm you. We should have another one in about 5 minutes. Rep for you for being a good sport and trying to help.
 

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Size does make a difference even if you don't put all your cock in, the amount of pressure you can stimulate the G-spot is way more than me and that makes a big difference.
 

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Okay Ulti he's all yours. I'm gonna go get some rum!
 

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CUSP you know that's true as much as i do.
 

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No it ain't you knucklehead. I'm gonna beat you! How many women have you been with? I 've been with one for every year you've been alive. Got ya beat on that one.( and it's only because I'm older than you). Don't you think I've got better things to do with my time than to come here and lie to you? You're lucky I don't know where you live because I'd come over and beat you like a red headed step child! What you are is soo much more important to a woman and their enjoyment of sex than your dick size. You've been told that here a million times. Next time you say stupid stuff like that I 'm gonna give you a red thingy and talk really mean to you!
 

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Size does make a difference even if you don't put all your cock in, the amount of pressure you can stimulate the G-spot is way more than me and that makes a big difference.

Listen man , when I started having sex I was not good in bed . I guess we all learn from experience .

I used to think like you to be honest . I used to try and get my dick as deep as possible , really trying to bang it deep ( I thought that's how women would orgasm ) . And let me tell you , I have always lasted for hours since I can remember .. So I was pumping hard , deep and for hours ...still no orgasms during penetration..

Until one day I was with my girlfriend at the time ( I think she was my 4th or 5th girl and before her I hadn't had much success satisfying girls - because I didn't know how ) , I was around 19 years old. I had recently read about the g-spot and fingering techniques so I started giving her a massage , slowing inserted my fingers in desperately looking for that elusive g-spot ... Suddenly I could tell by her reaction that I had hit the right spot ( for my suprise it was not as deep as I thought it would be ) .

And I will never forget what happened next .

After a few mid-tempo strokes - index finder fully "erected" simulating how a penis penetrates the vagina - , in no more than 3 or 4 minutes , the girl was cumming incredibly hard and just gushing out fluids man . Even she was like what the hell have you done to me ?

IT FUCKING HIT ME MAN ! ( not the fluids eheh , but the way women experience pleasure )

It's all about technique , direction , angle and knowledge .

If I could make a woman cum using my little index finder ( it must measure like 3 or 4 inches with a ridiculous girth compared to a penis of course ) then there was no reason why I couldn't replicate that with my actual penis .

So what you are saying about amount of pressure is just not true man , it does not work like that ( unless your erections are very poor ) .

Think about it people. A finger with a 3 inch length by 1.5 inches girth is all it takes to make woman orgasm and hit their g-spot . Do you really think there is any penis out there , with at least 3 inches , that is not capable of doing the same ?

Its all in the mind . And often in inexperience .
 

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No it ain't you knucklehead. I'm gonna beat you! How many women have you been with? I 've been with one for every year you've been alive. Got ya beat on that one.( and it's only because I'm older than you). Don't you think I've got better things to do with my time than to come here and lie to you? You're lucky I don't know where you live because I'd come over and beat you like a red headed step child! What you are is soo much more important to a woman and their enjoyment of sex than your dick size. You've been told that here a million times. Next time you say stupid stuff like that I 'm gonna give you a red thingy and talk really mean to you!

LMAO!! Love the post CUSP but i still disagree
 

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whether we like it or not it does matter...

of course most of women will say that it doesnt but then u hear stuff like "i dont like to be on top, it doesnt go deep enough" (from the same women) and similar stuff which makes you realise that it actually does... or some other ive heard like "oh u have a nice big d..." or "well its not that you would say WOW to, but its nice", u should much understand that 'wow' has to be big... or when girls start comparing and stuff....

Another thing we usually dont take into account is that women have preferences, and saying that some girl couldnt possibly have had many huge guys is nonsense.... I think its pretty obvious that naturally huge muscular guys (in body size) have bigger penis, so if a girl usually goes out with that type of guys its quite likely that she has met some huge cocks. (guys on steroids report that some of them increase their penis size by up to 30% with steroids. Not to encourage it because impotency goes along side of it).

one idiotic mistake we all do is when we ask women if size matter is that we accept stupid answers, which usually is "its not the size its the technique" but wait I didnt ask if u prefer technique or size, think about a guy with the same technique and tell me that bigger is not better? That technique answer is also satisfying for most of us as technique cant be measured so we cant compare it and it is something we can still improve, which in most of the populations belief u can do with size (i mean increase it). Once again if we ask a question if size matters we have to isolate technique, keep it constant, and then in pretty sure that majority of women will say that bigger is better (up to some size)

The most easiest way to think of penis and how we think about it is to compare it to womens boobs. Does size of boos matter? my answer would be "not really, unless its too big". I dont really care about boobs when i decide if i like some chick or not, but then given a chance and asked would you like her more if she was bigger i would say yes, unless its too big (just like with dicks). Boobs are much like penis for another thing, they are both not good when too big, but then where is the limit? Well its obvious that it varies from girl to girl and guy to guy, but one thing is for sure, that limit is always above average.
Another common point is that its girls who think about their boobs size as a matter of issue way more than guys, while on the other side we think way more about our dick size.
But then boos are just there, pratically doing nothing, while you have to satisfy a girl with ur dick, so it is not just as important but even more.

And then all talks about fingers... Come on... if u have a dick which u can bend as much as your fingers then u can compare it, but otherwise its just nonsense... And girls have their own fingers, if she wanted to get fucked by a finger she wouldnt need you...


Oh and i forgot to add... I think that many of us here do PE not because they feel small or sth like that (of course there are a lot who are under average and just want to get rid of that insecurity about themselves). I think that most of us want to be big or huge. For example I want a girl to say WOW to me, and then tell about me to her friends, and I am pretty sure that there are a lot of guys like me here.... I know that I can pleasure a girl with an average easily, but thats not the point, I want her to go WOW, even if it doesnt mean that the sex was better (but not worse) :)

and when u say that girls dont have a clue about how big we are.... let me ask you, do you? for example when i watch porn, i can only see that a guy i bigger than me, but my guess of his size would always be incorrect.... same with boobs, can u easily tell a size of a girls boobs? no u cant (probably), but that doesnt change a fact, u still compare them, and have that image of 'big' and 'small' in your mind....
 
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It matters, and it doesn't matter. Depends on the girl, the topic, the issue or time, and the guy. Specifically for me and my wife, she says it doesn't matter, but she thinks different than some slutty thing. She has been with 3 guys, one "much smaller" and one supposedly, slightly bigger. She says if she would have married the smuch smaller one, it wouldn't have mattered about the penis, she would have loved HIM. Now, in your late teens an dearly 20's, banging the random bar leech, then it might matter. Not sure as I have been married for over 10 years, but for your average cougar, I would assume that the issue would land in middle ground.
 

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It matters, and it doesn't matter. Depends on the girl, the topic, the issue or time, and the guy. Specifically for me and my wife, she says it doesn't matter, but she thinks different than some slutty thing. She has been with 3 guys, one "much smaller" and one supposedly, slightly bigger. She says if she would have married the smuch smaller one, it wouldn't have mattered about the penis, she would have loved HIM. Now, in your late teens an dearly 20's, banging the random bar leech, then it might matter. Not sure as I have been married for over 10 years, but for your average cougar, I would assume that the issue would land in middle ground.


"it wouldn't have mattered about the penis, she would have loved HIM"

I believe it, but then again, its not the point... I think what she actually meant is that she would have loved him despite that.. No one is saying that big dick will make up for everything else, its just part of your overall package and not a decisive one. Will it be a reason for breaking up? rarely (but definitely not never)

When u ask if bigger is better u have to keep every thing else constant. Would she love him more because of bigger penis? probably not? But it still doesnt change a fact that it would be better
 

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ok , if you want to keep living that myth that is fine . but there are just so many things that are so wrong with your post that I dont even know where to start .

( CUSP82 , I am starting to get you now )

Another thing we usually dont take into account is that women have preferences, and saying that some girl couldnt possibly have had many huge guys is nonsense....

Even if a woman is a size queen , unless she is actively searching for partners that she knows have big dicks ( example , through online dating sites , ads ) the chances of her finding one are still very slim . My friend statistics don't lie . If only 1/100 men has a penis larger than 8 inches than it is statistically highly unlikely for a woman to have actually been with one .

I think its pretty obvious that naturally huge muscular guys (in body size) have bigger penis, so if a girl usually goes out with that type of guys its quite likely that she has met some huge cocks....

Dude , are you for real ? I can't really understand if you are joking around or if you are being serious . This is ridiculous .

guys on steroids report that some of them increase their penis size by up to 30% with steroids. Not to encourage it because impotency goes along side of it...

This is even more ridiculous .

And then all talks about fingers... Come on... if u have a dick which u can bend as much as your fingers then u can compare it, but otherwise its just nonsense...

Man , I specifically used the expression erect finger , as in simulating a penis penetrating the vagina . Personally my penis does not bend when erect does yours ?

And the fingering showcases what is an incredibly important point regarding woman pleasure and G-Spot orgasm . You have to understand that there are NO mysterious spots hidden in the deep of the vagina that only a monster can reach . This is bogus . 99.9% of the women pleasure is located in the Clitoris and in the G-Spot .

If you want to stimulate either you do not need a big dick .

In fact if you want to hit her G-Spot with your dick you may actually have to remain with most of it outside to achieve the right angle and direction ( it works for me , I accept that there might exist other methods that work with other men ) .

AGAIN , the G-spot is located 1-3 inches in the frontal vaginal wall . 1 to 3 inches !

This is not freaking rocket science .

and when u say that girls dont have a clue about how big we are.... let me ask you, do you? ... can u easily tell a size of a girls boobs? no u cant (probably), but that doesnt change a fact, u still compare them, and have that image of 'big' and 'small' in your mind...

My point about girls not having a clue serves one specific conclusion . And that is that when they say 9 inches they probably mean 7 inches and if they say 7 they probably mean 5 .

Why is this important ?

This is important because there are probably a lot of girls out there claiming that they have been with monstrous 9 inch cocks when in fact the maximum they have ever been with is probably 6.5-7.5 inches . And that keeps the myth alive .

Believe me for most girls anything over 7 inches will probably already be regarded as something quite big , and something that they think is 8+ inches .

And that my friend , changes everything .
 

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whether we like it or not it does matter...

of course most of women will say that it doesnt but then u hear stuff like "i dont like to be on top, it doesnt go deep enough" (from the same women) and similar stuff which makes you realise that it actually does... or some other ive heard like "oh u have a nice big d..." or "well its not that you would say WOW to, but its nice", u should much understand that 'wow' has to be big... or when girls start comparing and stuff....

Another thing we usually dont take into account is that women have preferences, and saying that some girl couldnt possibly have had many huge guys is nonsense.... I think its pretty obvious that naturally huge muscular guys (in body size) have bigger penis, so if a girl usually goes out with that type of guys its quite likely that she has met some huge cocks. (guys on steroids report that some of them increase their penis size by up to 30% with steroids. Not to encourage it because impotency goes along side of it).

one idiotic mistake we all do is when we ask women if size matter is that we accept stupid answers, which usually is "its not the size its the technique" but wait I didnt ask if u prefer technique or size, think about a guy with the same technique and tell me that bigger is not better? That technique answer is also satisfying for most of us as technique cant be measured so we cant compare it and it is something we can still improve, which in most of the populations belief u can do with size (i mean increase it). Once again if we ask a question if size matters we have to isolate technique, keep it constant, and then in pretty sure that majority of women will say that bigger is better (up to some size)

The most easiest way to think of penis and how we think about it is to compare it to womens boobs. Does size of boos matter? my answer would be "not really, unless its too big". I dont really care about boobs when i decide if i like some chick or not, but then given a chance and asked would you like her more if she was bigger i would say yes, unless its too big (just like with dicks). Boobs are much like penis for another thing, they are both not good when too big, but then where is the limit? Well its obvious that it varies from girl to girl and guy to guy, but one thing is for sure, that limit is always above average.
Another common point is that its girls who think about their boobs size as a matter of issue way more than guys, while on the other side we think way more about our dick size.
But then boos are just there, pratically doing nothing, while you have to satisfy a girl with ur dick, so it is not just as important but even more.

And then all talks about fingers... Come on... if u have a dick which u can bend as much as your fingers then u can compare it, but otherwise its just nonsense... And girls have their own fingers, if she wanted to get fucked by a finger she wouldnt need you...


Oh and i forgot to add... I think that many of us here do PE not because they feel small or sth like that (of course there are a lot who are under average and just want to get rid of that insecurity about themselves). I think that most of us want to be big or huge. For example I want a girl to say WOW to me, and then tell about me to her friends, and I am pretty sure that there are a lot of guys like me here.... I know that I can pleasure a girl with an average easily, but thats not the point, I want her to go WOW, even if it doesnt mean that the sex was better (but not worse) :)

Ohh Man you just had me Laughing my ass off here.
OK the body builder thing is nonsense but I will agree on a few things you posted this being 1 of them.
( we accept stupid answers, which usually is "its not the size its the technique" but wait I didnt ask if u prefer technique over size, think about a guy with the same technique and tell me that bigger is not better? )
 
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