SIDE NOTE # 3 : Size really does not matter

[drabman]

...
But I am absolutely scared of making love. (partly) because of...my penis size (... but my girth is what psychologically stops me from wanting sex. I'm 7.75" BPEL by 5" in girth...

??? You are at the very least slightly above average in girth - and considering the school of thought that says the true average is probably lower than even reputable studies have found, you are probably more than slightly above average.

It's tragic that you feel this way. I think at least some of this sort of insecurity can be traced back to the irresponsible, unsubstantiated claims of huge penises of sizes such as 11"/12"/13" and the like (which have never been found in any reputable survey IIRC) that we see all over the place. Perhaps those prone to this sort of exaggeration should consider the unintentional damge they can do.

 

[spanky]

@RedForever, you have an inch of BPEL on me and my gf tells me she loves my cock. You have a big cock, you nutter! Now go and make love to her, not just her pussy.

By "her", clearly I mean abstractly whichever girl you're with, not my gf .

 

[RedForever]

haha, cheers Spanky. I guess it's a confidence issue big time. I'll sort it out. If your gf is happy with your girth at 5 then that reassures me.

 

[spanky]

5" girth is over average, whatever anyone says.. though show me the girl who'll notice a difference of a quarter inch either way during sex and I'll show you a weird girl.

Show me a girl who'll *care* about it and I'll find a different girl for you

 

[spanky]

Show me a girl who'll *care* about it and I'll find a different girl for you

Actually, this is a good point. As we keep hearing, there are *some* women who *may* reject a man for not having a monster cock. Why should you think women have the exclusive power of selection? Well, man up and reject those women. They're stupid. Have some standards!

I would wager having the confidence to choose the women you're willing to give your length to is probably pretty attractive.

 

[RickyRubio]

unfortunately, size does matter, maybe not in terms of certain orgasms but, if you dont have a large penis, how many times has a certain position been difficult because you slip out? sure u can make a girl come with 6inches(which I am), but you cant cause most women pain that ultimately becomes please with an average penis. with a smaLler penis we have fewer sexual options..overall I have a good amount of experience and size is a factor when dealing with women who've clearly had numerous partners larger than me.... ultimately, thats why im here, one day in a year or 3, I want a girl to twll her girls that, "rick is packin"...

 

[ultimape]

unfortunately, size does matter, maybe not in terms of certain orgasms but, if you dont have a large penis, how many times has a certain position been difficult because you slip out? "...

First of all you are agreeing with the point of the thread by admiting that size does not affect your ability to give girls orgasms or mind-blowing pleasure . Great .

Secondly the claim that size will help you do more positions and avoid your penis from sliping out is part true , part myth .

It's part true because , sure , if your tool is bigger you can try some more extravagant positions or angles .

It's part myth because :

a ) Your tool can slip up just as easily on some positions . Remember that even if you have a 9 inch cock you will not have all the 9 inches fully inside her , so much of it is out . So in fact you have the same 5-6 inches fully inside her vagina and your margin for slip outs is the same - because remember that slips outs occur when your head is moving "out" of the vagina .

b ) Slips outs many times are due to strong lubrication and/or fast miscalculated thrust ( vaginal or lubes ) , not so much penis size .

c ) Girth might be more important to prevent slip outs than length .

d ) This is also part myth because at the end of the day it's not like an average guy is prevented from doing all sorts of magical positions just because his tool is not huge. The difference is not that big . When it comes to sex , the positions that work for both partners and that you will use 95% of the time can be performed just as well either you have a 5 inch penis or 9 inch penis .

e ) In fact many times it's quite the opposite . If your tool is 9 inches you might be PREVENTED from doing many standard positions or doing them in a controlled fashion to prevent pain .

sure u can make a girl come with 6inches(which I am), but you cant cause most women pain that ultimately becomes please with an average penis. "...

I have no idea what you mean with this . You want to cause women pain ?

with a smaLler penis we have fewer sexual options.."...

Aside from dating size-queens I can't see how it would limit your sexual options - excluding micro-penises issues .

overall I have a good amount of experience and size is a factor when dealing with women who've clearly had numerous partners larger than me.... "...

Even if a women had a partner with a bigger penis than you , why does that matter ? How do you know that guy was any good in bed or could sexually satisfy her ?

I would be more worried if my girlfriend had dated a sex guru with an average penis that could make her cum multiple times until she passed out , than if she had dated a guy with a 10 inch penis .

.... ultimately, thats why im here, one day in a year or 3, I want a girl to twll her girls that, "rick is packin"...

This is ego enlargement .

Nothing to do with women pleasure brother .

 

[Closed039]

This is ego enlargement .

Nothing to do with women pleasure brother .

We all agree that confidence is the most important thing. If a larger penis for Ricky indeed means a larger ego, which means larger confidence, which means he will be bringing more women to higher pleasure levels, then surely you would agree that it actually does have something to do with "women pleasure?"

 

[spanky]

how many times has a certain position been difficult because you slip out?

Yeah, that happens. Oh well. put it back in. Just not a big deal.

...one day in a year or 3, I want a girl to twll her girls that, "rick is packin"...

Suit yourself, I'd rather have her tell her friends I was her best lay. Besides, there's no point having her tell her friends you're packing if she finishes the sentence with "... but he thought that was all he needed"

 

[spanky]

We all agree that confidence is the most important thing. If a larger penis for Ricky indeed means a larger ego, which means larger confidence, which means he will be bringing more women to higher pleasure levels, then surely you would agree that it actually does have something to do with "women pleasure?"

Indirectly, sure. No problem with that, but if your penis size is the only way you can achieve such self confidence I think there are probably bigger issues at play.

 

[closeed258]

Indirectly, sure. No problem with that, but if your penis size is the only way you can attain any self confidence I think there are probably bigger issues at play.

I think a bigger penis is the only way I can get my self confidence back, and it's already started coming back from my early gains. Being under average has been a right head fuck for me.

 

[fffchmm]

This is like the rich guy who tell people money isn't important. Please if you're more than 7" stfu.

 

[ultimape]

We all agree that confidence is the most important thing. If a larger penis for Ricky indeed means a larger ego, which means larger confidence, which means he will be bringing more women to higher pleasure levels, then surely you would agree that it actually does have something to do with "women pleasure?"

I don't agree that confidence is the most important thing . I believe woman find confidence an attractive quality and there is no doubt that confidence will make it easier for you to break the ice with women and go out with them or get them in bed . Also , once you get to action I also agree that if a woman sees that you are doing things with confidence she will find that sexy .

But for me it kinda stops there .

You can have all the confidence in the world but still suck in bed . In your mind you might think that you are this unstoppable stallion when in reality you suck .

So confidence is important but you still need to know what you are doing and be an attentive lover . In my view the bound with the girl and your technique are more important .

You can have confidence without technique - you will suck .
But you cannot have technique without confidence - you will be a good lover .

Furthermore this all "penis size for confidence" thing is understandable sure , but yeah this is an ego issue , and as spanky as put it , it can mean there are bigger issues at play here .

Let's say that you can only feel confident in bed if you are wearing your lucky cowboy hat . If you wear it you will feel more confident , so you will be better in bed right ?

 

[ultimape]

This is like the rich guy who tell people money isn't important. Please if you're more than 7" stfu.

you are right , I don't know what were we thinking ?
Admin , can you guys delete all posts made by any user above 7" inches ?

I also propose that in the future users with more than 7 inches be preventing from commenting in the forum since their extreme size is clearly preventing them from making valid points or discussing issues in a rational fashion .

 

[spanky]

This is like the rich guy who tell people money isn't important. Please if you're more than 7" stfu.

Why? because guys with bigger dicks couldn't possibly understand women, or sexuality or self-confidence? Consider that many guys don't pin their entire masculinity or self-worth on their cock. Why not trust a guy with a bigger dick when he tells you it doesn't matter? I mean if that guy, by the doubters' standards, gets a lot more sex, and better sex (assuming this were true) then why not trust the voice of his experience?

 

[closeed258]

This is like the rich guy who tell people money isn't important. Please if you're more than 7" stfu.

Why? because guys with bigger dicks couldn't possibly understand women, or sexuality or self-confidence? Consider that many guys don't pin their entire masculinity or self-worth on their cock. Why not trust a guy with a bigger dick when he tells you it doesn't matter? I mean if that guy, by the doubters' standards, gets a lot more sex, and better sex (assuming this were true) then why not trust the voice of his experience?

I think it's hard to take advice from someone who is not in the same position whether they're right or wrong if there was numerous people with 4.5'' dicks who were posting it doesn't matter it would be easier to believe.

 

[Closed039]

I don't agree that confidence is the most important thing . I believe woman find confidence an attractive quality and there is no doubt that confidence will make it easier for you to break the ice with women and go out with them or get them in bed . Also , once you get to action I also agree that if a woman sees that you are doing things with confidence she will find that sexy .

But for me it kinda stops there .

You can have all the confidence in the world but still suck in bed . In your mind you might think that you are this unstoppable stallion when in reality you suck .

So confidence is important but you still need to know what you are doing and be an attentive lover . In my view the bound with the girl and your technique are more important .

You can have confidence without technique - you will suck .
But you cannot have technique without confidence - you will be a good lover .

Furthermore this all "penis size for confidence" thing is understandable sure , but yeah this is an ego issue , and as spanky as put it , it can mean there are bigger issues at play here .

Let's say that you can only feel confident in bed if you are wearing your lucky cowboy hat . If you wear it you will feel more confident , so you will be better in bed right ?

Ah, a fair rebuttal. But if confidence in the sack leads you to perform better, which I believe it surely will, then it still stands that increase in confidence leads to increase in pleasure.

The lover that lacks confidence may hastily jam his penis into the vagina without proper foreplay, may ejaculate too quickly in his excitement or not at all, may not know what to do in the various sexual positions. The confident lover knows what his partner wants and gives it to her, taking his time and being attentive to his lover's needs. And if it takes a cowboy hat to do that, so be it.

 

[Closed039]

Indirectly, sure. No problem with that, but if your penis size is the only way you can achieve such self confidence I think there are probably bigger issues at play.

Not gonna disagree with that. My point is actually that the big dick from a mental standpoint, not its physical use, could cause certain people such as Ricky to be a better lover. Whether or not there are other issues at play? Maybe. But if his head is fucked up and he thinks he needs a bigger dick, and he can't change his perception of his penis, then he probably needs a bigger dick.

 

[RickyRubio]

First of all you are agreeing with the point of the thread by admiting that size does not affect your ability to give girls orgasms or mind-blowing pleasure . Great .

Secondly the claim that size will help you do more positions and avoid your penis from sliping out is part true , part myth .

It's part true because , sure , if your tool is bigger you can try some more extravagant positions or angles .

It's part myth because :

a ) Your tool can slip up just as easily on some positions . Remember that even if you have a 9 inch cock you will not have all the 9 inches fully inside her , so much of it is out . So in fact you have the same 5-6 inches fully inside her vagina and your margin for slip outs is the same - because remember that slips outs occur when your head is moving "out" of the vagina .

b ) Slips outs many times are due to strong lubrication and/or fast miscalculated thrust ( vaginal or lubes ) , not so much penis size .

c ) Girth might be more important to prevent slip outs than length .

d ) This is also part myth because at the end of the day it's not like an average guy is prevented from doing all sorts of magical positions just because his tool is not huge. The difference is not that big . When it comes to sex , the positions that work for both partners and that you will use 95% of the time can be performed just as well either you have a 5 inch penis or 9 inch penis .

e ) In fact many times it's quite the opposite . If your tool is 9 inches you might be PREVENTED from doing many standard positions or doing them in a controlled fashion to prevent pain .



I have no idea what you mean with this . You want to cause women pain ?



Aside from dating size-queens I can't see how it would limit your sexual options - excluding micro-penises issues .



Even if a women had a partner with a bigger penis than you , why does that matter ? How do you know that guy was any good in bed or could sexually satisfy her ?

I would be more worried if my girlfriend had dated a sex guru with an average penis that could make her cum multiple times until she passed out , than if she had dated a guy with a 10 inch penis .



This is ego enlargement .

Nothing to do with women pleasure brother .

ok, firstly, 'slipping out', can be broken down from lubrication or girth or however you'd like to sugar coat it, when I lay on my side with a woman in front of me, 'spooning' with my member in her, I do not have much range of motion with 6inches. when I have a partner ride me and would like to bounce pretty high, 'slipping out' is again an issue. (of course I could restrict how high she rides or hold her close as possible when spooning, but there
points out the lack of options with a 'regular' penis.

now in terms of, 'causing women pain', when a woman first does anal, it doesnt matter if you have 3inches, its going to hurt, eventually she can endure that pain and if she so chooses to 'like' anal, she will enjoy that 3inches. now if you have 8in, and it hurts her vagina at first, over time, the pain will diminish, and she may,begin to love that 8inches that 'hurt' her originally. now after shes used to that 8inches, the 6incher after him has to perform above and beyond.

I think us 'normal' sized fellas assume every man with 8+ inches doesnt know how to use it, this is completely untrue. many of my friends have uttered the words, ".... she couldn't take the dick" yet these same women who were 'in pain' cant seem to stop calling my friends..... pain has become pleasure.

 

[spanky]

ok, firstly, 'slipping out', can be broken down from lubrication or girth or however you'd like to sugar coat it, when I lay on my side with a woman in front of me, 'spooning' with my member in her, I do not have much range of motion with 6inches. when I have a partner ride me and would like to bounce pretty high, 'slipping out' is again an issue. (of course I could restrict how high she rides or hold her close as possible when spooning, but there
points out the lack of options with a 'regular' penis.

I just don't see the problem here. Anyone would think slipping out was the worst possible thing that can happen. It's just not a big deal, it happens. Worse when you pop out and she lands perineum first on your hardon... ouch! but you know what, sex is supposed to be fun, not a perfect performance. I just wouldn't worry so much about it. Grace under pressure is a far higher virtue than perfectionism.

now in terms of, 'causing women pain', when a woman first does anal, it doesnt matter if you have 3inches, its going to hurt, eventually she can endure that pain and if she so chooses to 'like' anal, she will enjoy that 3inches.

I have it under good authority that anal is actually pretty pleasurable for women on its own terms, but it hurts if you do it badly or too eagerly. I'm pretty sure that if it hurts her you're doing it wrong. Though that said, the first time I did anal, I asked her "doesn't it hurt?" and she said "yeah, but it feels *so* good!" ... I think the "but" is quite important. It was her first time, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't the pain that she got off on. In fact I'm sure of it, since I got a bit over eager and popped it in again later without warming her up and she damn near killed me! Really, if it hurt that much she wouldn't do it.

I think us 'normal' sized fellas assume every man with 8+ inches doesnt know how to use it, this is completely untrue. many of my friends have uttered the words, ".... she couldn't take the dick" yet these same women who were 'in pain' cant seem to stop calling my friends..... pain has become pleasure.

Nobody assumes that, but it is a fair assumption of a guy who thinks his big cock is the only thing that contributes to her pleasure. Nobody's suggesting an 8" cock doesn't feel different to a 5" cock, all we're trying so desperately and vainly to say is that that simply isn't the difference between good sex and bad. If your well endowed friends who apparently hurt these girls are being called back time and time again, I'd say the chances are they're just good in bed, and that probably is something you should take note of.