JP's 90 Day Beginner Routine

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what about 3 o clock`?
 

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what about 3 o clock`?


Just disregard the whole LOT theory and stretch in all directions. Most PE'ers don't recognize the theory as relevant anymore.
 

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Just disregard the whole LOT theory and stretch in all directions. Most PE'ers don't recognize the theory as relevant anymore.

Really... I was going to tailor my post 3-month workout around the LOT theory. Thanks!
 

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First, I agree with Waylander that :
1-New guys can ignore LOT theory & still make good gains
2-LOT theory can't predict Suspensory Ligament gains accurately

Predictions aside, it is still absolutely important to maximize your Suspensory Ligament gains. I believe this is what Jon Pop is trying to teach new guys.

Stretching your Suspensory Ligaments appears to be a necessary part of the process for anyone attempting to make major gains. A few veterans have concluded that Tunica Albuginea gains cannot be maximized until the Suspensory Ligaments are no longer a limiting factor. The Suspensory Ligaments will remain a limiting factor until they are stretched to their maximum extent (maximized creep, deformation & lengthening).

We probably need a few articles on anatomy, etc so guys can understand all this more fully.
 

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hey you guys
a question again
does anyone think masturbating 2 times a day plus one or two time sex plus exercises is too much????
anyone had some expiriencses with frequent masturbation and PE? please comment if you can
thank you :)
 

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hey you guys
a question again
does anyone think masturbating 2 times a day plus one or two time sex plus exercises is too much????
anyone had some expiriencses with frequent masturbation and PE? please comment if you can
thank you :)
Masturbating two times per day is too much, even once a day is too much if you are in your 20s. Up to two months ago i used to masturbate at least once a day, it is addiction, experts say can be like heavy drug addiction and i agree. Then i began reading about it, western doctors will tell you how its okey no harm down blablabla . Ufortunatelly i can't find a link where it was well documented what are bad effects you get from every days masturbation. I remember some of them were tiredness, weakness etc. If you believe in eastern teachings it is said that by masturbating and ejaculating you are weakening your rooth chakra and are loosing life energy. Personally i feel like new man since i stopped masturbating, i still play with my dick but i dont ejaculate. It was hardest to make it through first 4 days i thought i was going nuts, then i got controll over it and ejaculated first time after 8 days, then again after two weeks. My balls and penis look healthier, i get erection easier, can have it for longer. I feel stronger and my endurance almost doubled, i noticed that since i work out almost every day, difference is HUGE. All in all i am against masturbating every day. If you really must, then do it once or twice a week. This is just my opinion and i am speaking from my experience, maybe its differente in your case, but i doubt it
 

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First, I agree with Waylander that :
1-New guys can ignore LOT theory & still make good gains
2-LOT theory can't predict Suspensory Ligament gains accurately

Predictions aside, it is still absolutely important to maximize your Suspensory Ligament gains. I believe this is what Jon Pop is trying to teach new guys.

Stretching your Suspensory Ligaments appears to be a necessary part of the process for anyone attempting to make major gains. A few veterans have concluded that Tunica Albuginea gains cannot be maximized until the Suspensory Ligaments are no longer a limiting factor. The Suspensory Ligaments will remain a limiting factor until they are stretched to their maximum extent (maximized creep, deformation & lengthening).

We probably need a few articles on anatomy, etc so guys can understand all this more fully.

What are the specific exercises that maximizes the Suspensory Ligament?
 

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What are the specific exercises that maximizes the Suspensory Ligament?

The answer to your question is exactly what Jon Pop is explaining in his first post ;)

I was just giving you what I believe is the strategy behind the instructions that were already given. In other words, the specific exercises you should do & the way you can use them to maximize susp lig deformation are already outlined in this routine.
 

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im on my 5th day of the routine..
hey guys is it ok if i do ballooning sometimes?
my prblem is after ballooning for more than 20 mins i just cant resist to ejaculate, can this affect to my gains in future time?
 

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Its OK to start Edging/ballooning with this routine, just try to hold back from ejaculation every other time or so.
 

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Masturbating two times per day is too much, even once a day is too much if you are in your 20s. Up to two months ago i used to masturbate at least once a day, it is addiction, experts say can be like heavy drug addiction and i agree. Then i began reading about it, western doctors will tell you how its okey no harm down blablabla . Ufortunatelly i can't find a link where it was well documented what are bad effects you get from every days masturbation. I remember some of them were tiredness, weakness etc. If you believe in eastern teachings it is said that by masturbating and ejaculating you are weakening your rooth chakra and are loosing life energy. Personally i feel like new man since i stopped masturbating, i still play with my dick but i dont ejaculate. It was hardest to make it through first 4 days i thought i was going nuts, then i got controll over it and ejaculated first time after 8 days, then again after two weeks. My balls and penis look healthier, i get erection easier, can have it for longer. I feel stronger and my endurance almost doubled, i noticed that since i work out almost every day, difference is HUGE. All in all i am against masturbating every day. If you really must, then do it once or twice a week. This is just my opinion and i am speaking from my experience, maybe its differente in your case, but i doubt it


dear friend
thank you that you took your time to comment
i think you are 100% right it just gets like a habit
and no doubt about that it takes your energy away
gonna start reducing playing :) energy is what i need to grow

just a question do you think since you stopped the PE is getting better?...hope it has and that you make fine progress keep on m8
tnx for the post
 

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hey guys i just joined this forum and looking forward to starting exercising but all of this is very new to me so i wanted to ask you should i start with JonPop's routine or something alse?
 

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hey guys i just joined this forum and looking forward to starting exercising but all of this is very new to me so i wanted to ask you should i start with JonPop's routine or something alse?

Welcome loco, Jp's routine is an excellent beginners routine all around. Make a post in the intro forum and we will give you some good links to start reading.
 

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dear friend
thank you that you took your time to comment
i think you are 100% right it just gets like a habit
and no doubt about that it takes your energy away
gonna start reducing playing :) energy is what i need to grow

just a question do you think since you stopped the PE is getting better?...hope it has and that you make fine progress keep on m8
tnx for the post
you are welcome. I haven't been doing PE, i am also new here, i am thinking about staring, but want to first educate my self on that subject.
 

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Are there any pictures to demonstrate PE? Since English is not my first language i have hard time understanding some words, therms, like for example "Do several Kegels" what does that mean? Then LOT / TUG pulling back ...wtf!?
 

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dear friend
thank you that you took your time to comment
i think you are 100% right it just gets like a habit
and no doubt about that it takes your energy away
gonna start reducing playing :) energy is what i need to grow

just a question do you think since you stopped the PE is getting better?...hope it has and that you make fine progress keep on m8
tnx for the post

I stopped the day after starting jps routine too. I hear jerking gives you a little testosterone boost if you don't cum and that's why its beneficial. I've actually talked to a couple powerlifters who masturbate or have sex without ejaculation before they go to the gym. But I myself haven't looked much into it. Maybe someone could confirm/deny this??