Is the West in decline

[akaTrex]

So do the math. Deduct that cost (and it's actually probably even higher than that) from the economic gain that you conveniently dismissed and the number is positive. By a very wide margin. So...sure...you can reduce the expense of healthcare for undocumented immigrants and, at the same time, give up the, literally, hundreds of billions of dollars they contribute to the economy.

I remember the days when Republicans called the Democrats socialists. Now both parties embrace it!

The economic gain from immigration is questionable. The number of undocumented individuals in the U.S. is estimated to be over 30 million, with some experts suggesting it could be closer to 50 million.

Who ultimately pays for the benefits received by these individuals when they come to the U.S. illegally? The US Taxpayers.

When undocumented individuals commit serious crimes and are wanted, where do they go?
They often leave the U.S. to return to their home countries.

Is the West in decline? If so, why do more immigrants choose to come to the U.S. than to any other country in the world?

 

[Johnny D]

Is that supposed to be good news? Are we supposed to be happy with a 30% tax on those goods? Seems like only a few months ago when we were opposed to inflationary policies. Now we're applauding it? Gaslighting at its finest

 

[akaTrex]

Memorial Day travel to set new record as drivers benefit from lower gas prices. 39.4M people will use cars to get to their destinations during the Memorial Day holiday weekend.

The average cost of a gallon of regular gasoline hovered around $3.13 nationwide, according to AAA, down from $3.59 a gallon on Memorial Day in 2024. Who was the President in 2024?

 

[Johnny D]

The economic gain from immigration is questionable.

Is it? Where's your data? I've provided sources showing the benefit to GDP, state and local taxes, etc... and don't recall anything from you or anyone to contradict those numbers.

 

[Johnny D]

Memorial Day travel to set new record as drivers benefit from lower gas prices. 39.4M people will use cars to get to their destinations during the Memorial Day holiday weekend.

The average cost of a gallon of regular gasoline hovered around $3.13 nationwide, according to AAA, down from $3.59 a gallon on Memorial Day in 2024. Who was the President in 2024?
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You're just turning this discussion topic into a bunch of news headline posts.
And, once again, you really have to get over Biden. Let it go, man. Move on!
P.S. If you really believe that the President controls the price of gas at the pump.....oh my. Are you seriously falling for it when Trump claims to be somehow reducing the price of gas (which he frequently gets completely wrong, btw)?!

 

[akaTrex]

Is that supposed to be good news? Are we supposed to be happy with a 30% tax on those goods? Seems like only a few months ago when we were opposed to inflationary policies. Now we're applauding it? Gaslighting at its finest

How about those prescription drug prices the Dems were so fired up about?
What did Joey's Handlers "Anita Dunn, Mike Donilon, and Steve Ricchetti" do to help bring down prescription drug prices for the American People?

 

[akaTrex]

The economic gain from immigration is questionable.

It's Illegal immigration!

 

[Johnny D]

How about those prescription drug prices the Dems were so fired up about?
What did Joey's Handlers "Anita Dunn, Mike Donilon, and Steve Ricchetti" do to help bring down prescription drug prices for the American People?

Who cares? Since when do we support a government that determines the price of things and tells businesses what they can and can't charge? That's the real question you should be asking.

It's Illegal immigration!

I don't even know what you're arguing. You don't respond to my points. I don't know why I always allow myself to get sucked into it with you.

 

[akaTrex]

Is it? Where's your data? I've provided sources showing the benefit to GDP, state and local taxes, etc... and don't recall anything from you or anyone to contradict those numbers.

Individuals and businesses that hire illegals are paid in cash!
Sure, Illegals file their Taxes with the IRS!

 

[Johnny D]

Individuals and businesses that hire illegals are paid in cash!
Sure, Illegals file their Taxes with the IRS!

Find me one reputable economist who can support your feelings with data. Find me one economist with the calculations that show illegal immigration has an overall negative net economic effect.

 

[Pegasus]

Lol from what I gather the US is pressuring Aussie to pay more for drugs. The US broke a free trade agreement to impose tarrifs .

Going to be a ride on tarrifs . The loss of trust is generational .

 

[akaTrex]

Find me one reputable economist who can support your feelings with data. Find me one economist with the calculations that show illegal immigration has an overall negative net economic effect.

We will soon see! Not some study from a economist from LibTard University!
A Federal judge just ruled that the IRS must share illegal alien data with DHS, a court win for Trump!

 

[akaTrex]

Stocks surged after the U.S. and China agreed to roll back tariffs for a 90-day period.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 1,160.72 points, or 2.81%, exiting correction territory.
The S&P 500 climbed 3.26% and the Nasdaq Composite rose 4.35%.

Under the deal, reciprocal tariffs for both countries would be reduced by 115%. The U.S. will temporarily lower its tariffs on Chinese goods from 145% to 30%, and China will reduce its levies on American products from 125% to 10%.

 

[not2big]

Both the China tariff agreement and the order potentially reducing drug pricing are steps in the right direction, but, as in most political issues, the devil is in the details. And the details have yet to be revealed. One deterrent would be its effect on research and development.

 

[not2big]

Another interesting concept that should stir up some controversy. On Feb. 27, representative Joe Wilson (R - NC) introduced legislation to print a $250 note bearing the portrait of Trump in commemoration of the semiquncentinnial of the U.S. despite the fact that in 1866 and again in 1873 Congress prohibited portraying any living person on currency notes.

 

[akaTrex]

Department of Homeland Security Investigates State of California for Providing Federal Benefits to Illegal Aliens

Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) Los Angeles Field Office issued a Title 8 subpoena to the State of California’s Cash Assistance Program for Immigrants (CAPI). This program provides benefits to aliens who are ineligible for Social Security benefits because of their immigration status.

The subpoena requests all records from the Los Angeles County Department of Public Social Services who administers the state program to determine if ineligible illegal aliens received Supplemental Security Income (SSI) from the Social Security Administration, between January 2021 to present.

 

[Johnny D]

We will soon see! Not some study from a economist from LibTard University!

Instead of just posting headlines, you should read what's been posted. I've provided data from numerous conservative institutions but you're ignoring whatever contradicts how you feel.

Your use of "LibTard" is derogatory and needs to stop. We're civil and respectful here.

 

[Johnny D]

Both the China tariff agreement and the order potentially reducing drug pricing are steps in the right direction, but, as in most political issues, the devil is in the details. And the details have yet to be revealed. One deterrent would be its effect on research and development.

How so?

The tariff agreement with China is a massive increase in the price of imports that has to be paid by the consumer.

The EO on drug pricing is coercive price controls being set by the government (we call that socialism). The government prohibits US residents from purchasing lower priced drugs from other countries. If the goal is truly to make them more affordable, allow the importation of pharmaceuticals.

Don't fall for this crazy gaslighting!

 

[akaTrex]

The illegal MS13 Member Kilmar Abrego Garcia had already received Due Process. Garcia had a previous Deportation Order.

 

[not2big]

My comments indicated that lowering drug prices and reducing excessively high tariffs were steps in the right direction, not a recommendation of the proposals and that more details were needed to be provided in order to support or condemn the proposals. I even mentioned one concern regarding the drug EO. If you do not feel lowered drug prices and lowered tariff rates are a good idea, that is your right. I believe we need to work to achieve better results, but at least we are better off this week than we were last week.

BTW, Several of my prescription drugs are manufactured in India, but, for safety concerns, their facilities have been approved by the FDA.