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What does that mean?
Please speak plainly. There are a lot of people here from all over the world and communication is difficult enough without intentionally vague posts.
Similarly, sarcasm is actively discouraged, especially when it is mean spirited.
Why have you not banned him yet? What does he offer that's positive to this site????
 

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[...]So confidence in your ability and LOVE for yourself are the Keys to success[...]

I totally agree. But, for many of us the thought of a bigger dick raises or confidence in our ability. I do love myself but Im a human being, humans have insecurities. Im not insecure in my ability to love and satisfy, Im just bitter about not being optimal. The mere thought of having that optimal dick just erases any insecurity I might have and makes me feel like I can conquer the world. Not only that, the thought of being able to give my gf the optimal (read: not only satisfactory, optimal) pleasure in bed just turns me on so much.

But your points are great, this is not about the women but the men. It's not about her, it's about me. A man doing PE that doesn't understand that, is doing this for completely wrong reasons. I really do this for myself and for what I believe it might do to my confidence, my ability to be a better man but also my life vision. Yes, it might sound sad but the size of my member really has that big of a weight on how life quality might be.
 

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The problem is there is no such thing as perfect so once you get to optimal you will adjust the goal line of what perfect is. You need to find confidence with out it relying on your body image..to be truly satisfied with yourself.

Men do need to do it for themselves but while they are doing it for themselves they need to take into consideration female pussies. What is perfect for mens confidence and ego is not necessarily perfect for females to use.
 

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The problem is there is no such thing as perfect so once you get to optimal you will adjust the goal line of what perfect is. You need to find confidence with out it relying on your body image..to be truly satisfied with yourself.

Men do need to do it for themselves but while they are doing it for themselves they need to take into consideration female pussies. What is perfect for mens confidence and ego is not necessarily perfect for females to use.

I think while a lot of guys say "I do it for myself", more should consider how this phrase reflects their goals. I think EVERY guy really deep down does it for himself. The issue is how healthy their outlook is.

I know where my line is. I know what size I will never go above, and I know I want to gain size because the circumstances of my life have conditioned me to enjoy the thought of wielding a larger member during intercourse. No girl has told me to get a bigger cock, and I don't think that happens to guys often (it happens, but not often). I know some girls may take a bit more pleasure from being filled a touch more and some don't care at all, but that is almost meaningless to me. I have an ample size, and when it comes to sex, it is far more important to me to know what I am doing with my body, my hands, my mouth, my words, and my mind. Controlling rythmn, being sensual, rough, firm, and gentle all at the same time. Teasing, even after foreplay... Sex is always a pattern of a few steps forward and one or two back. Its not a gradual predictable escalation towards the climax, but a teetering unbalanced one, that only increases the excitement. Whats more emotionally stimulating? A rickety bridge over a chasm, or an escalator service from point A to B?

Sexual identity is important to me. It is important to everyone. The problem is, some guys don't know where the line is. They identify their sexual identity as something that is synonymous with their penis. It seems easier to blame something that is considered unchangeable by the majority of the world than actually ask yourself if YOU can improve. PE lets us change something others consider impossible. It takes effort, just as anything does, but the issue is that it relieves men of taking the blame for their weaknesses in the sack. Man up, guys. The human body is a sex machine. Learn to use it, and stop focusing on the size of your hard drive... The other hardware matters way more.

PE is great, but remember... your penis is not your fucking sex life.
 
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You're just trying to make me give you more reps!! lol
good post Captain(as always well thought out)

Lol thanks, you keep me thinking :p

I think I am putting that last sentence in my sig. It sounds fight club-ish... lol PE fight club.

1st RULE:
You do not talk about PEGYM.

2nd RULE:
You DO NOT talk about PEGYM.

3rd RULE: If your partner says "stop" or you go limp, tapped out the work is over.

4th RULE: Work, cement, maintain.

5th RULE: Watch your PI's, or watch it fall off.

6th RULE: No shirts, no shoes.

7th RULE: Cocks will grow on as long as they have to.

8th RULE: If this is your first night at PEGYM, you HAVE to post.

 

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lol thanks, you keep me thinking :p

i think i am putting that last sentence in my sig. It sounds fight club-ish... Lol pe fight club.

1st rule:
you do not talk about pegym.

2nd rule:
you do not talk about pegym.

3rd rule: if your partner says "stop" or you go limp, tapped out the work is over.

4th rule: work, cement, maintain.

5th rule: watch your pi's, or watch it fall off.

6th rule: no shirts, no shoes.

7th rule: cocks will grow on as long as they have to.

8th rule: if this is your first night at pegym, you have to post.


lmao! :D
 

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.. I have never chosen or left a man based on his penis size.



My girl friend has left both ends of this...one because is was very short and small. The other because he was too big...She's never said how small the guy was, but she said it was disgusting looking! She only said the guy who was too big...he could only get about half in. He would hurt her regularly.
 

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I got -100 rep points for saying sigh.

I get pissed when I read things like "immature girls want big penises" "only sluts want big penises" "i like proper women and proper women don't like big penises".
Actually at this point it's kinda funny. Whatever helps you sleep at night I suppose, if it's lying to yourself and believing nonsense to not feel insecure, then go right ahead.
Also keep in mind that the women at this PE forum do not represent the majority of women. If you can't see this, then I don't feel like explaining it to you, as it will probably get me banned and to be honest, the way a lot of you have been treating me to protect your egos is childish and frustrating, so I really don't care at this point.

I will say this: I am fully aware that the majority of females do not put penis size as a conscious priority when selecting a man to be in a relationship with. But at the same time, sex to a woman is very, very important. And yes, technique and passion is extremely important. Draw your own conclusions.

This is the best post I've seen in a while... on any forum.
I could talk about the psychology behind the 'slut/bitch' judging whole day, but I don't want to derail this thread.
That is all.
 

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Lol thanks, you keep me thinking :p

I think I am putting that last sentence in my sig. It sounds fight club-ish... lol PE fight club.

1st RULE:
You do not talk about PEGYM.

2nd RULE:
You DO NOT talk about PEGYM.

3rd RULE: If your partner says "stop" or you go limp, tapped out the work is over.

4th RULE: Work, cement, maintain.

5th RULE: Watch your PI's, or watch it fall off.

6th RULE: No shirts, no shoes.

7th RULE: Cocks will grow on as long as they have to.

8th RULE: If this is your first night at PEGYM, you HAVE to post.


Hahaha :D great post!
 

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This is the best post I've seen in a while... on any forum.
I could talk about the psychology behind the 'slut/bitch' judging whole day, but I don't want to derail this thread.
That is all.

There is certainly nothing wrong with women who like big dicks - I mean, if I thought there was anything wrong with it, that would be pretty disrespectful to my girlfriend and previous girlfriends.

But: I think it does demonstrate a certain immaturity and a tendency towards attention-seeking if a woman likes to bang on and on about how much she loves big dicks - I mean, I dunno how common this is, but it seems some guys on here have encountered girls like this from time to time. And this isn't a double-standards thing, because if you had a friend who likes to mention at every possible opportunity how much he just looooves huge titties, you'd probably find that very childish and frankly a bit pathetic, wouldn't you? Like, just go and find some to play with and STFU already.
 

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There is certainly nothing wrong with women who like big dicks - I mean, if I thought there was anything wrong with it, that would be pretty disrespectful to my girlfriend and previous girlfriends.

But: I think it does demonstrate a certain immaturity and a tendency towards attention-seeking if a woman likes to bang on and on about how much she loves big dicks - I mean, I dunno how common this is, but it seems some guys on here have encountered girls like this from time to time. And this isn't a double-standards thing, because if you had a friend who likes to mention at every possible opportunity how much he just looooves huge titties, you'd probably find that very childish and frankly a bit pathetic, wouldn't you? Like, just go and find some to play with and STFU already.

I can't say I ever encountered such a person.
I was talking more of judging the promiscuos girls by calling them sluts, or the girls who are acting like a 'bitch'. 'Bitch' judging being somewhat unrelated to his post but it's the same kind of judging at it's core.

It isn't just the 2nd post that I liked. Every sentance shows that he gets the human nature and psychology.
 

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I can't say I ever encountered such a person.

Neither have I, to be honest, although some guys on here seem to have run into them, or like to think they have.

But more generally, people of either sex who love to let everyone else know how much sex they're having tend to be a bit tiresome, and often it's a lot of hot air anyway.

I agree that there's a severe case of double standards with regard to the word 'slut' and its implications. Especially as it's often used by guys who would probably high-five another guy for having had [X] partners, but would regard a woman as a 'slut' for having had [X] or even [X/2] partners.
 

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The problem is there is no such thing as perfect so once you get to optimal you will adjust the goal line of what perfect is. You need to find confidence with out it relying on your body image..to be truly satisfied with yourself.

Men do need to do it for themselves but while they are doing it for themselves they need to take into consideration female pussies. What is perfect for mens confidence and ego is not necessarily perfect for females to use.

I think in general, pussies can strech to considerable volumes. Hell, a baby is going through there. With that said, just because it can strech to fit a baby through doesn't make that pleasing.

BUT, I think that a female that doesn't have the frame of a small asian woman, can take considerable dick. The trick is in making her aroused enough (wet) so the pussy can expand enough. As it is right now, I totally have confidence in my ability to make my gf aroused. To the point where it gets too wet and I don't feel much friction. Don't get me wrong, sex is still great and she gets off, but when we initially met she hadn't had sex for a while so she was tighter, and when it was that tight I remember how she moaned loud and pulled my neckhair as if I was her God. Now, almost a year later, she is looser and that affects both my motivation to have sex, but also my view on what I "give her". She doesn't make those sounds or those motions anymore.

Basically I believe she can take much more dick and the girls I usually get turned on by are not the smallish asian type but more like women with curves (so even if it doesn't work out with this one, the ones Ill get attracted to probably can take the same amount of dick given enough arousal). My girl has curves for being a white woman, it turns me on alot. Her being curvy in turn, probably means she can take much more "volume", especially given how wet she gets when we have sex.

And even at that, IF a woman naturally doesn't get that wet, there's always lube. I love using lube even when it is not needed. So that's actually a welcoming component, either way.

Main point is that a) The thought of filling a woman up is so powerful and so arousing that I really want to try this, especially given how much sex means to me. b) I am a very confident guy, if there is any one insecurity I might have, it is that I have an average sized cock. So if that can be worked on and I virtually completely erase my insecurities, then why not? I believe a person is much more happy and prone to success the less insecure he or she is. Win/win situation.

Besides, if nothing else then PE leads to better penile health. Which is great. Again, I completely agree with you and sadly believe that a lot of guys have a warped reason to go at this, they need to work much more on their views on women and what is expected of them, than anything else. Love, taking care and being there for your significant other is more important than any perfect cock out there (at least for a caring woman - those are the ones we should go after and not the slores).
 
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@Lavio

There is no significant correlation to hip size and vagina size, nor is there a correlation between vagina size and overall height or body type.

Pushing a baby through is possible, but not always. When it is, it is incredibly painful and can cause tearing.

A penis size doesn't decide your sexual ability. Some women DO care about size, some don't. Either way, in this forum I see men who honestly care about their size. Some might delude themselves into thinking they are doing it for a woman, but they are ultimately doing it for themselves. Some might actually be doing it for a specific woman, because they know their partner has preferences. Others are just doing it because they "assume" their partners want it, or they "assume" some random generalization about women liking big penises.

No. You are PEing for your own ego. You are PEing because it is easier to blame your penis than consider you are NOT some sex god. A penis is measurable, unlike sexual ability. You want the hard proof you are a king in bed. Some guys will deny this post applies to them. Fact is, how many guys brag to their friends about their sex life? It happens a lot, and a tonne of the quiet guys fit the bill too.

Everyone can improve, and everyone has different tastes, even in the sack. Figure out what you like, and what your partner likes, and improve.

Feel free to PE. I don't plan on stopping either, but remember you are doing it for your own ego. I am not saying there aren't sexual benefits. I am saying that generalizing about vaginas and what women want is a waste of time. What you do here, you do for yourself.
 
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Sexual identity is important to me. It is important to everyone. The problem is, some guys don't know where the line is. They identify their sexual identity as something that is synonymous with their penis. It seems easier to blame something that is considered unchangeable by the majority of the world than actually ask yourself if YOU can improve. PE lets us change something others consider impossible. It takes effort, just as anything does, but the issue is that it relieves men of taking the blame for their weaknesses in the sack. Man up, guys. The human body is a sex machine. Learn to use it, and stop focusing on the size of your hard drive... The other hardware matters way more.

PE is great, but remember... your penis is not your fucking sex life.

I don't identify my sexual identity to something that has any direct connection with my penis. As stated, I do this because I want to raise MY ability to be greater in bed. It takes (in my case) two to tango in sex, obviously. And obviously dick size is nowhere near the most important aspect of sex. I think physical attraction, how secure you make her feel (at least with my girl), how much of her inhibitions she can let go, how aroused you make her with your presence, your fingers and your tongue, you you move, you you smell and how you use your voice.. All of that is more important.

But let's not act as if penis is no component at all in sex.

Im a guy that continously wants to evolve my quality as a sex partner. In my grown life Ive always been like that. If I sucked at using my fingers, I did everything I could to improve. Read everything about the female anatomy, read and heard female testimonials of how they like to be stimulated with the fingers, learned about the a-spot, g-spot and u-spot, and then applied it in bed.

I learned how women like to be licked, I learned how women like to be teased. Same with kissing, same with touching, same with how I use my voice or how I smell prior to sex.

I just really, really strive to be as good of a sexual being as humanly possible. The ONLY limitations being my anatomical factors. Now, reading that even the dick can be "upgraded", of course a person like me jumps on the waggon! This is too good to miss!

Again, it has nothing to do with anything else than feeling more confident in my ability to be a sexual prodigy, and how aroused the thought of taking a woman beyond extacy takes me. I just get so turned on by the powerful notion of taking a woman to a place she has never been to, sexually.
 
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^ Solid post.

I like how you own your stuff. I fully agree with your post.
 

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This is something that i really, really needed to hear. I am my girlfriends 3rd lover, coincidentally she has only seen 4 penis's. Mine is approximately 6.25 long without pressing into my bone and about 5.25-5.5 in girth, so i feel as though i fell into the average range. One day i asked my girlfriend, because she was so passionate during love, if i had the biggest penis of all of the guys she had been with (a dumb thing to ask but we had just had sex about an hour ago and you could hear us out in the street, and I was 10 Miller's deep) and she said no. That she thought that my girth second but i was about the same length as the smallest of the guys she had been with. I was crushed because i had been with 7 girls before this, left 3 of them on bad terms and they never insulted my size, and I though the sex with my current girlfriend was awesome(although she had only had sex with one of those guys once and the other 9 times, so she was relatively new). She said sex with me was the best sex she ever had, that she had only orgasm once before me and i make her orgasm every time we have sex. And we have a ton of sex(42 times in one month) But I thought she was just trying to make me happy by telling me that. That she was trying to make me feel better, because she really does care about me. But now I see that its possible that I do satisfy her sexually. Thank you for these great words of encouragement.
 

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Oh man, asking your partner if you're the biggest she's had is such a huge can of worms. If you're not, she's got two options: lie to you, or risk hurting your feelings - assuming you're one of those guys who places a lot of importance on dick size, which you presumably are if you've asked her in the first place. Sometimes it's best not to know.