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[Ivor]

Well yeah, I mean "statistically" the odds against any one person winning a jackpot on the lottery are astronomical. But someone wins it nearly every week, and sometimes two players share the jackpot. Which is why it's ridiculous to say that Pegasus is "statistically correct". I mean, I can see that you (vettez) understand that in your last post, but it still looked a bit weird.

Anyway, I'm certainly not saying my girlfriend had an army of Mandingo-sized lovers before she met, as Peg would seem to be implying (or is implying that I'm implying, if you get me). I'm just saying that of the (small) sample of cocks she encountered before mine, she seems to have done rather well in terms of size. That's hardly a million-to-one freak, is it?

 

[NCGUY1972]

I completely understand Im in the same boat you are so I know it happens. My wife only touched 4 before me 2 were average and 2 were well above. So naturally the 2 average ones were small and mine is average. In a sense it would be average for her but not for the population.

 

[TTBB]

I have always said its relative. .. so what is big to one girl might be average to another. What is small to one might be big to another person. size judgement is based on , what they have experienced and what they expect big or small to be.. Also big can take on different dimensions.
My first was big (peg refuses to believe this or believe my ability to judge size) but when i was with this guy i thought he was average or normal sized never really thought about his size cuz i didn't have a hell of a lot to compare him to and i was naive. It wasn't till the next dick, i encountered that i realized that there can be noticeable contrasts in size.and then the next...

And maybe the ladies who say they have never experienced small penis are protecting the guys they once fucked. I mean think about it. no guy deserves to be outed liked that. average is the a good place to land.

Also...i really don't get why guys feel insulted by being mid range. have you ever heard the story of Goldilocks and the three bears?

 

[Ivor]

And maybe the ladies who say they have never experienced small penis are protecting the guys they once fucked. I mean think about it. no guy deserves to be outed liked that. average is the a good place to land.

That might be true in some cases, but my girlfriend despises her ex (the one guy she'd been in a long relationship with before she met me) so that's not what's going on here.

 

[IHaveAHugeNick]

I think a huge reason that so many women have experienced average sized penises or bigger (and therefore average becomes the new small)is because most guys with small ones are probably are less promiscuous. I'm not talking about 5 inchers, I'm talking about 4.5 and smaller.

Almost every week I read a post about someone with a sub 5incher that's had very few (or zero) experience with a woman. Most say it's voluntary because they know their units are small.

We've been saying for a long time that big sized guys will show it off, talk about it and encourage others to spread the word. Of course, it's big and they know it. The converse could very well be true. Small penis guys don't want word of mouth, show as few people (women) as possible and hope to hell that when they do break up with someone, that their ex will be kind enough to keep quiet.

All that together could very well be why the numbers seem skewed. A woman that's had multiple partners will probably have experience at least one large one (maybe more) and most of the others will be average. Not many below and probably none well below. Because those guys are only going to try for sex with someone they trust and possibly love, for no other reason that to keep their size a secret.

Just a theory. What do you think? Possible? Plausible? A huge crock?

Edit: Tinkerbell touched on this a few posts ago. What would a woman gain in outting some guy with a small one? Unless he was a complete asshole to her, she would probably protect what she knows is a terribly embarrassing secret.

 

[NCGUY1972]

Just a theory. What do you think? Possible? Plausible? A huge crock?.

very good point if guys with larger units are more comfortable and out giving it to everyone they can while the guys with smaller or even average units are less apt to engage in intercourse then that would absolutely explain the womans perspective being skewed.

 

[Ivor]

Yeah, I think I said something along these lines a few posts ago.

I saw one poor kid on Th***er's P**ce recently who was avoiding going out and meeting girls because he was insecure about his flacccid size! I mean, to the extent that dick size matters at all - and a woman doesn't have to be a 'size queen' to admit that a very small dick would be problematic with regards to sex, so it does at the very least matter a bit - surely it's the erect size that is important? If you're getting with a hot chick it should be hard by the time she sees it directly, anyway! Right?

I don't think the guy was even that small in the scheme of things - just goes to show how badly this insecurity can affect men. I hope he gets over, I and a few others gave him a bit of a pep talk, or tried to...

 

[TTBB]

I think technology is part of the problem when it comes to the amount of cock talk that now goes on(talk about body parts and sex in general for both sexes) I do think men regardless of size of dick want to hear their dicks are big so when sex talk happens big dick gets slipped in conversation.With internet and texting aka sexting.There is a lot more talk about penis than ever before(a lot more porn being watched). People are also meeting playmates and potentials from all over the world, country, region,city, outside work or their group of friends. Sex or talking about past experiences, fantasies, desires. getting to know each other are thrown into the mix of flirting and courting before physically meeting ..so some people do think talking or reliving past sex moments is flirting or selling the fact they are sexually desirable. Before people became uber accessible via phone and internet talking about sex about your body with someone before having sex really didn't happen and if it did happen was not the set norm.

 

[NCGUY1972]

Agree^

 

[ThinJohnny]

I think a huge reason that so many women have experienced average sized penises or bigger (and therefore average becomes the new small)is because most guys with small ones are probably are less promiscuous. I'm not talking about 5 inchers, I'm talking about 4.5 and smaller.

...

Just a theory. What do you think? Possible? Plausible? A huge crock?

I agree that MOST guys who feel smaller are probably less promiscuous and that could skew things, but I think there are enough other factors involved that women probably still see a fair number of the smaller guys.

A few examples of things that I think would get the smaller guys out there - alcohol, insanely high testosterone levels in young men of all dick sizes, the need for a smaller guy to seek validation by sleeping with as many women as possible. I think all of these things caused me to be much more promiscuous than most of my friends growing up, despite the fact that all but a couple of them were significantly bigger than me, at least as far as I knew. I do remember some instances, though, when my size did cause me to shy away from some women.

Overall, I agree that it probably skews things in the direction of women seeing more of the bigger guys, for sure, but I think there are probably a good number of exceptions, too. And I think that's a good thing for guys who feel so small that they don't want to be with women. I think it has already been said, possibly in this thread, but plenty of women have been with smaller guys, and even though we all know that there are some evil bitches out there who will make cracks about our size, most women will not.

 

[Ivor]

I think technology is part of the problem when it comes to the amount of cock talk that now goes on(talk about body parts and sex in general for both sexes) I do think men regardless of size of dick want to hear their dicks are big so when sex talk happens big dick gets slipped in conversation.With internet and texting aka sexting.There is a lot more talk about penis than ever before(a lot more porn being watched). People are also meeting playmates and potentials from all over the world, country, region,city, outside work or their group of friends. Sex or talking about past experiences, fantasies, desires. getting to know each other are thrown into the mix of flirting and courting before physically meeting ..so some people do think talking or reliving past sex moments is flirting or selling the fact they are sexually desirable. Before people became uber accessible via phone and internet talking about sex about your body with someone before having sex really didn't happen and if it did happen was not the set norm.

Really great post, TB. Sometimes I read stuff here or at Th***er's P**ce that makes me think "Am I the only straight guy in the world who doesn't have an in-depth knowledge of how big all his friends' dicks are?". I know long-standing friendship groups can end up being quite 'incestuous', so it can seem as if everyone has dated someone who used to date someone else who once fucked so-and-so who's now married to the first person's ex, and my own social group is no exception - but I don't know or even particularly wish to know how big each of my male friends is, or exactly what sorts of activities my female friends will and won't do. And it seems odd to me that some people - who aren't into 'swinging' or group sex per se - do have that kind of knowledge about their friends.

 

[NCGUY1972]

lol I have no clue how big my freinds penises are

 

[Ivor]

lol I have no clue how big my freinds penises are

And this is normal, right? Please tell me this is normal. I see all these threads where guys say "well, at high school I was the third-biggest out of my group of friends..." or whatever - so either they all fucked the same girl who carried a tape measure with her at all times and was the biggest blabbermouth ever, or that's some pretty serious locker-room comparison. (Or they all went to boarding school, and we know what goes on there, don't we!)

Having said all that, my parents were highly amused when, as a small boy, I came home from school one day and announced that it was apparently very "fashionable" to have a big willy, following from a comment another boy had made in the changing rooms after PE*. Well, clothes come and go but some things remain a classic year in, year out, don't they?

[That's physical education, not premature ejaculation! Dunno if the same term is used in the States]

 

[TTBB]

You have to remember a lot of "my friend has or i am the 2nd biggest" talk comes from listening to claims from each other and no actually ruler to penis measurements ..and some would be talking about flaccid

 

[kimish]

I'd like to chime in and say through my experiences most women's partners are average or a little under or over.
However, I think that many women have been with more larger penises than many would like to think or what people are told.

 

[NCGUY1972]

the more a woman see the more she is likely to experience a large one and a small one.

 

[ThinJohnny]

I have no idea how big my friends that
I've met later in life are, with the exception
of a couple of guys who always talk
about how big they are.

But I think it's pretty common, and perfectly
normal to know the approximate flaccid sizes
of the guys you grow up with.

Between showering after sports
and pissing in the woods, you end
up seeing pretty much everybody's
dick. I did, anyway.

 

[Gspot]

The monster dildos that one can purchase these days do not help anything either. "I need a man as big as my 15" didlo to satisfy me" she said. Better go find a horse then lady.

 

[Ivor]

The monster dildos that one can purchase these days do not help anything either. "I need a man as big as my 15" didlo to satisfy me" she said. Better go find a horse then lady.

As people have pointed out in this thread and many others, not many women actually want a 15" dildo. By far the best-selling sizes of dildo are about the same size as an average penis.

The stupidly huge ones are bought either for (ahem) theatrical purpose or as a joke for someone's hen night.

 

[Ivor]

"I need a man as big as my 15" didlo to satisfy me" she said.

And I can guarantee that no woman has ever said this. Or has ever said it seriously, at least.