I guess this is my sequel thread to being 20 and never being in a relationship

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Be sure to research fashion for men. Dress well. It's unbelievably easy and people will stare at you (in a good way). That always helps.

I dress pretty well when I go out (I know that'll sound biased but I certainly don't dress bad), the thing is most people dress at least acceptable so if you stand out by what you wear, the chances will be it's for the wrong reasons. But obviously it depends on where you're going I suppose.
 

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Woo, at least I've found someone to have sex with. She's 20 and also a virgin, so that'll make things a lot easier/better/calmer :)
 

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Well, that's all over now...She sent me a message today saying 'she doesn't need my services anymore', she had sex with someone else. She's known the person longer than me, it's not a random and I knew about him as she was annoyed that nothing happened last weekend which is when I said we should have sex. We met again on Thursday and it went fairly well despite one thing I said but that's irrelevant now.

Started to get sick of this though, why should I even bother to try.
 
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I haven't had anything good happen since I turned 21 really apart from getting great university results in my last semester which was just due to hard work, dedication and barely having a social life. Since I almost died, my license got suspended so I'm waiting for my license to get reinstated since all the relevant documentation has been given to the licensing body, haven't been able to get a full time job in my field since I finished accounting, and now after having sex planned with someone as willing and in the same boat as me, she's decided to do it with someone else leaving me empty handed and back to square one. In some ways I can't wait to turn 22 just because I am starting to get superstitious and feel like everything at 21 has been somewhat bad but at the same time I need to lose my virginity before I turn 22, that's just pathetic in my opinion
 

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Well I had oral and gave oral last night, so glad I didn't have penetrative sex though. Not sure why I agreed to meet someone just to have sex (online), turns out she was far more overweight than I thought so that put me off for a while before I pretty much had to commit to it (she lives quite far away from me, we were at her place). She sucked my dick for a bit but it didn't even feel that good, going down on her wasn't as bad as I thought it would be but nothing enjoyable. Once I tried putting the condom on, it was making me softer, and then when I tried to get to my hardest, I ejaculated. I think it was very much mental, I didn't really want to have sex with her and for her to my 'first'. Not a good experience but I won't see her again so whatever.
 

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Ryan,

I haven't been on this site for a few weeks. Life's been super busy for me.

I was so stoked when I read about that other virgin girl, then disappointed when it fell through.

Your first time doesn't have to be perfect. But just know that, however it happens, it'll be *your* first time. No matter what.

Also, something that just came to mind, the title of this thread seems to be about never being in a relationship, although recently the focus is more on sex. Not saying anything's wrong with that. I'm just pointing that out.

But if you're looking for your first time with sex, it seems like you're almost there!

And yes, I don't feel that much with oral, either. Some guys just don't.
 

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I would have thought a lot differently when this thread started in early 2012, for one thing I wasn't so desperate as I am now.

In terms of that other girl, I am gutted about that in some ways but it's not something I can change. Maybe the one silly thing I said changed her mind a few days later, I don't know but it's done. I don't think I'll get a better opportunity in regards to someone who is also a virgin so its at least more comfortable, she was a good person too but since I'm still sour over what happened I haven't talked to her since and she hasn't contacted me either.

I think because I still have a lot of things to sort out in my personal life, I'm not sold on a relationship because I'd rather be generally happy when that comes around because I'm more unhappy at the moment. But for me personally there has only been 2 or 3 girls in my adult life who I at least entertained the prospect of a relationship with, that girl who ticks all the boxes is somewhat rare which is good and bad, means when you do finally find her, you know it's special and means something.

In terms of sex, theres another woman who I'll probably have sex with next week. I think now it's just about getting it done before I turn 22 rather than delaying it longer.

Also hopefully meeting a woman online who lives somewhat far from me but she seems the most genuine, whilst she is 26 and we would never be able to commit long time, she at least seems the type of girl I could talk to and has some ambition/dreams so thats always a plus.
 

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Well I turn 22 in 2 days (well 1 day and 30 mins to be precise) and still haven't had sex...awesome.
 

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I haven't had anything good happen since I turned 21 really apart from getting great university results in my last semester which was just due to hard work, dedication and barely having a social life. Since I almost died, my license got suspended so I'm waiting for my license to get reinstated since all the relevant documentation has been given to the licensing body, haven't been able to get a full time job in my field since I finished accounting, and now after having sex planned with someone as willing and in the same boat as me, she's decided to do it with someone else leaving me empty handed and back to square one. In some ways I can't wait to turn 22 just because I am starting to get superstitious and feel like everything at 21 has been somewhat bad but at the same time I need to lose my virginity before I turn 22, that's just pathetic in my opinion

Where did you meet the virgin? I feel like female virgins over 16 are very rare, at least in Northern Europe.
 

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I dress pretty well when I go out (I know that'll sound biased but I certainly don't dress bad), the thing is most people dress at least acceptable so if you stand out by what you wear, the chances will be it's for the wrong reasons. But obviously it depends on where you're going I suppose.

Contrary to popular belief, a lot of guys think they dress pretty well, but they dress badly in reality. I'd keep that in mind.
 

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Contrary to popular belief, a lot of guys think they dress pretty well, but they dress badly in reality. I'd keep that in mind.

I went to a high end club last night (without a guest list, so I had to be dressed well to get in), was wearing a good long sleeved shirt, with good jeans and good shoes but I didn't get many looks if, any. My 2 friends did I reckon but obviously not me.
 

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I went to a high end club last night (without a guest list, so I had to be dressed well to get in), was wearing a good long sleeved shirt, with good jeans and good shoes but I didn't get many looks if, any. My 2 friends did I reckon but obviously not me.

Who said looks were bad? If a guy has some solid fashion sense, I'm going to be digging their style and looking at their threads. I'd rather wear more eccentric clothes than be a generic copy like everyone else. Like for example Macklemore's outfits in his music video Thrift Shop. Those outfits are actually pieced together really well in my opinion.
 

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Who said looks were bad? If a guy has some solid fashion sense, I'm going to be digging their style and looking at their threads. I'd rather wear more eccentric clothes than be a generic copy like everyone else. Like for example Macklemore's outfits in his music video Thrift Shop. Those outfits are actually pieced together really well in my opinion.

Looks are good from females, I'm just saying I didn't get any I think and no females approached me like they did with my friends, but that's how it is.
 

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Looks are good from females, I'm just saying I didn't get any I think and no females approached me like they did with my friends, but that's how it is.

I see, well hope you enjoyed yourself on that night out though.
 

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I see, well hope you enjoyed yourself on that night out though.

It was good, I just wish I was more confident.
 

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Contrary to popular belief, a lot of guys think they dress pretty well, but they dress badly in reality. I'd keep that in mind.

Going off of what Koh wrote, check out this thread. Some good style tips in here. It's mainly for larger men, but there's also discussion for general style tips.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/relationship-forum/65793-i-need-dress-better-get-sexier.html#post755912

EDIT: And hey, sorry I didn't reply earlier, Ryan. I saw your post 2 days ago, and then didn't respond.

But hey, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
 
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I can't blame anything on how I dress, it's not really a concern for me. It's easy to say that but I wear good jeans/pants, shoes, t-shirt or shirt (depending on the venue) whenever I go out. I'm in better shape than I was at 18 and have fairly decent arms (compared to the average guy I suppose) but I certainly want to get in better shape than I am in now.
 

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But yeah I think it's going to get worse before it gets better. God I was 20 (19 when I started the original one) when I started this thread about not having a relationship which I thought was bad at the time but I never would have envisioned being where I am at now back then. Too complacent, not taking any risks, wasted 4 years not trying to talk to women/have sex/do whatever and I kind of feel I'm stuck now because I just want to have sex but I'm at the age when I'm probably meant to be maturing, I don't know. At times I feel I'm a lost cause as I feel I shouldn't have put myself in this position, the longer I wait, the worst it'll get, this should have all be done by 19-20 but I kept waiting, and that has let me down. I could understand if I was one of those who was 'waiting for the right person' or waiting till I was married but that isn't true in the slightest and I'd never pretend that.
 
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still need to fix this, ahhhhhhhhh. I'm 22 for god sake!
 

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You know when you're looking for something and you can't find it? And then when you stop trying to look for it, it's right there? Yeah, totally works with sex, too. At least for me.