I don't know what to do anymore. Lots of sh*t

[twopumpchump]

priligy worked for me too, could also have sex multiples times off the same pill

sometimes i couldnt cum , other times after 20/30 mins

but yah expensive

i went a year strong on celexa with no premature ejac , your uroligist might offer this method

and now 4 months strong on deferol with not one case of pre jack

 

[WhiteCloudz]

i have had many of the same problems you have been describing here and i basically just changed my mind and said i was going to do my absolute best to accept them and changed whatever i could....you can only do your best mate.....everything will work out in the end....just try your best and keep your mind busy....there is an absolutely brilliant book that you may benefit from reading its written by Mantak Chia and its called(Taoist Secrets Of Love)Cultivating Male Sexual Energy...

 

[Pegasus]

Have heard of this book, several guys in the mmo group have said they were going to post on it and didn't.

 

[Gogulik]

On premature ejaculation it says that it is due to a lack of vitality and the best cure would be to do not masturbate until the vitality is recovered and that may be done by rest and certain exercises in the book. This applies to me because when younger I could last a long time but after many years in which I abused porn and ejaculation it seems My sexual organs are weaker.

 

[naturesucks]

I readed a similar book entitled "Ultimate Ejaculation Mastery" which had a very tedious introduction about how the man was once a "very sensitive, minuteman ejaculator" and managed to last longer and become multiorgasmic, but he admited that he wasn't still a "sex athlete" and he had to stop from time to time, going very slow, which is the opposite of my goal, in other words being able to fuck fast, hard, and being long lasting. That's what girls love, not some new-age tantric tard who has to stop every minute to relax and breathe. Jesus it was obvious that the guy who wrote the book was like 54 and wasn't on touch with what young girls want. He basically says that if you don't like his method you'll be forced to find a partner that is okay with it. Good one there mate.

I went throught the first chapters which where aimed towards people without a sexual partner, so stuff you could practice alone, and it was a bunch of stuff about relaxation, breathing, and everything else I already know that doesn't work. Lot's of newage sh*t about chakras and so on.

Veredict: Avoid at all costs and visit your urologist.

BTW, can someone tell me if you can grow if you only use the "C" grip when doing jelqs? It hurts when I use the OK grip, the skin gets stuck under the gland due the short frenulum and curvature, and I can't buy lubricant so I have to do it dry.

 

[EQKing]

I can't buy lubricant so I have to do it dry.

I advice you not to do dry jelqs as your primary jelqing method .... some form of lubrication is absolutely necessary .... If you want to do dry jelqs then you shouldn't be doing too many reps .... dry jelqs should be done as a back up to your wet jelqs for instance after taking a leak you can do a set of 10 dry jelqs .... Don't use dry jelqs for primary jelqing where the number of reps are really high .... For that you need to get your penis lubricated for a smooth flowing action .... dry jelqing will also cause skin damange if you do it at high reps ....

 

[naturesucks]

I advice you not to do dry jelqs as your primary jelqing method .... some form of lubrication is absolutely necessary .... If you want to do dry jelqs then you shouldn't be doing too many reps .... dry jelqs should be done as a back up to your wet jelqs for instance after taking a leak you can do a set of 10 dry jelqs .... Don't use dry jelqs for primary jelqing where the number of reps are really high .... For that you need to get your penis lubricated for a smooth flowing action .... dry jelqing will also cause skin damange if you do it at high reps ....

From what I understood, only guys that are circumsized would have such problem. Im not, I have my foreskin so it doesn't really get sore due friction or any of that if thats what you mean. The skin just slides as you do the rep and theres no damaging friction. If you still recomend lubricant, well I can't buy any, because I live with my parents and if they found out it would be really embarrasing. Same reason why I haven't bought a Fleslight STU to train performance with (some people said it felt pretty decent).
Could I use saliva as lubricant? Anyone tried this? I think it would get dry pretty fast and it would need constant lubrication (me spitting every minute to keep it wet enough).

Another question: Are you guys familiar with the "fowfer"? (I think its called like that). It's basically putting your cock and balls in between your ass checks and holding it by putting your legs together, ideally when you are at bed lying down so theres a certain pressure on there. I don't recommend doing it while sitting in front of your computer or something, because you may sit in your ballsack and sh*t hurts, so better do it at bed while reading or something.

I remember reading someone in Thundersplace mentioning how he managed to grow using only this technique, and he slept the whole night throught on that position, downwards and with cock+ballsack inbetween thighs. Is this healthy? He said he specially managed noticeable grows in flacid mode which would be great for me.

Cheers

 

[EQKing]

From what I understood, only guys that are circumsized would have such problem. Im not, I have my foreskin so it doesn't really get sore due friction or any of that if thats what you mean. The skin just slides as you do the rep and theres no damaging friction.

Being circumsized or uncircumcized has got nothing to do with the negative effect of doing dry jelqs (Not saying that dry jelqs are a bad exercise). Dry jelqs have nothing to do with the foreskin getting sore or not (I never experienced it) .... all i am advising here is that dry jelqs affect the whole shaft and excessive amounts of repetitions might tear your penis skin causing serious injuries (especially around the base and the middle shaft) ....

 

[Going411x7]

I agree with EQ King here. Just my experience, but I have always used lube to jelq. My dry jelqing sessions have not been that successful because they are so uncomfortable. Not good. I'm a lucky "dawg" in that I produce a lot of natural lubrication when I am fully aroused--always have. This is a plus because it always makes sexual intercourse with the Mrs. a pleasant experience.

If you run out of lubrication during a wet jelqing session, you can sometimes extend the lube by adding water. Many lubes work this way--KY for one, which is expensive. I love a natural lube like olive oil. It's cheap, but smelly.

 

[Noseybailey]

"Moaning like a Retard!!!". Need I say more? After I read that I lost all interest in your post/problem!
First of all, you asked for help and when you received a phenomenal, lengthy reply you merely summed it up with "retard".
Second of all "retard"! Really? That word, term is so wrong in more ways than one!
Third of all, you are 21! I find it hard to believe that you would post in such great details and managed to have performed all of the stated recommendations by a true PE veteran in the past! If you did you must ask yourself if you gave it 100 percent, a fair time frame and an open mind!
Fourth and most important.... Please don't ask for advice, receive it then comment on their recommendations with such childish and unacceptable terms a"retard"! These individuals put a lot of time, energy and thoughts into their replies and if you disagree fine, they still deserve your respect as they gave you some of their precious time!!!

 

[naturesucks]

"Moaning like a Retard!!!". Need I say more? After I read that I lost all interest in your post/problem!
First of all, you asked for help and when you received a phenomenal, lengthy reply you merely summed it up with "retard".
Second of all "retard"! Really? That word, term is so wrong in more ways than one!
Third of all, you are 21! I find it hard to believe that you would post in such great details and managed to have performed all of the stated recommendations by a true PE veteran in the past! If you did you must ask yourself if you gave it 100 percent, a fair time frame and an open mind!
Fourth and most important.... Please don't ask for advice, receive it then comment on their recommendations with such childish and unacceptable terms a"retard"! These individuals put a lot of time, energy and thoughts into their replies and if you disagree fine, they still deserve your respect as they gave you some of their precious time!!!

lol'd. Taking the "retard" word too much seriously. It's just a word to describe how would I feel being naked on my bed, moaning, when my dad is watching tv in the living room which is really close to my bedroom. You get the idea I guess.

Yes, i've triead loads of recommendations because I've been checking stuff about premature ejaculation and PE stuff for years.

I appreciate all replies in case you got the wrong image of me.

Tomorrow im seeing the doctor (which is a woman around 40, embarrasing as fuck lol) and i'll say i want to get an appointment with the urologist. Not sure if she'll ask me to show my dick to her or not.

 

[naturesucks]

K yesterday I went to the doc. Fuck she was looking actually pretty good for her age. She insinuated if I wanted her to look my cock but I avoided it for some reason, everything went smooth tho. No one I know was asked to show his dick when you want to get an appointment for the urologist so I should've got my cock out and fuck her on there. I didn't tell her about my premature ejaculation problem tho lol. Will tell only to the urologist. Ihave to go in January so since then I guess nothing will change.

 

[naturesucks]

I all there. I hope this is the year where I get rid of premature ejaculation and gain at least an inch flaccid and erect, yeah that would be a good and imo realistic goal.

Well just wanted to say that user 'Dopamine' told me that he had the same symptons i was talking about (like you feel you are about to cum all the fucking time when you are hard, so you have to stop constantly). He said he had a magnesium defficit and he improved loads by taking magnesium supplements.

I did some research and besides PE, I have other symptons that are described as "magnesium deficiency":
-Shakky legs: It's not something to worry about I guess, but I tend to do that shaky motion on my fet a lot, and I sort of feel shaky all the time. It is specially annoying when I have a song or something playing on my head, I sort of follow the rhythm and sh*t. Again it's nothing serious, but I feel a bit weird inside. If I focus on staying totally freezed and relaxing all muscles, i can do it, but it feels weird. It's difficult to describe.
-twitching: my left eyelid has been sort of twitching a lot randomly for the past like month or something). Weird.
-hairloss: I have a widow peak and im fucking 21. Im lossing a decent amount of hair everytime I brush. So far I have no problems stlying my hair and is totally unnoticeable, but fuck im going to a dermatologist ASAP.

Im pretty much in for taking magnesium supplements. Should I mention this to the urologist this month? I have to go soon. What do I tell him, that I did some research on the internet? lol I think hes going to laugh at me or something. But yeah what do I have to lose anyway.
My diet as I said is a pretty decent mediterranean diet but I don't fucking count oh many mg of magnesium im taking with the food, so what do i have to lose anyway? I've read this deficit is very common and it is extremely dificult overdosing on magnesium through food sources so I say bring the pills. What do you guys reckon?

Will update when I go to the urologist. I don't remember what day exactly but the time is comming pretty soon.

 

[Minuteman]

What about the operation?

Will you go trough it? Good luck.

Btw if there is a way to get a blood analysis to determine the maginsium levels in your body, i would recommend that first, before the pills. Sicne you are already going to the doctor it might be better to wait and hear his/her opinion first, maybe you will find something new. I somehow don't think that it is connected to magnesium but i have been wrong before , i think that the magnesium did repair the "deficit problems" but the other part acted as the placebo in confidence boost... but if it worked it worked.

 

[gameup]

okay i am new here and i have the same problem. i only read the main post.
but im thinking im faster than that. like last night it sucked balls. i had to stop, i kept stopping but when i get back into it i could still hang if i just go normal speed, but if i put my self to it and go fast i dont think i would last 20 seconds. i have to pull it out or i would came.

so im going to keep my eye on this thread. i hope there is still a way to clean up this mess otherwise my life would suck.

i was also thinking maybe because im small thats why i dont last long?

 

[mistydawn]

Hi Nature sucks. I am responding to your original post. An idea is to be more creative. It seems to me (since you say you have tried everything) that you need to change direction. There are sooooo many ways to please a woman beyond the cock. Most women would like more foreplay (which does not always means it happens before intercourse) activities. Become and expert at oral sex. Learn to use your hands. Find the girls g spot. Work on where to stimulate a girl to give her ejaculating orgasms. All women are capable of ejaculating but no one has hit it so it isn't happening. These types of things can get you a fan for life! And I mean a girl considering you one of the best they have ever had or even, the best ever! A woman will like a guy who is really into making her feel good. I know a guy who gets hot from see me in ecstasy is a big arousal boost. It gets me off.

The biggest sexual organ is the brain. A lot of a womans arousal is mental. This particular form of arousal will most likely work with girls that are not just a one night stand. You would need to have an idea of what turns them on already. I have shared before that whispering in my ear turns me to jelly.
It brings up my arousal level big time. Just whispering my name is good. Saying things that aren't whispered in the ear is good as well. Doing role play is a great way to boost womans arousal. Of course, again, this would have to be with more than a one night stand.

Good luck.

 

[spanky]

I 95% second what @mistydawn says. I am trying to work through my own premature problem too, and I've had WAY better sex as a result of taking the time to learn how to please her in other ways and concentrate on those first.

the 5% is that I still want (and know she wants me) to be able to fuck like a rabbit as well, and right now, it sucks that I can't do that (although I'm hopeful with RKs). Either way I kind of get the feeling that the cure is going to come from another place, and a part of me almost feels like it's some kind of test where I have to learn to be a more considerate lover before fate bestows control back upon me.

Sorry that sounds a bit wanky, but I can't help thinking that shifting the point of the exercise in my head from my orgasm to hers, not both of us, just hers, is probably just the ticket.

 

[mistydawn]

Sorry that sounds a bit wanky, but I can't help thinking that shifting the point of the exercise in my head from my orgasm to hers, not both of us, just hers, is probably just the ticket.

I am confused here. You are having an orgasm, it is simply coming sooner than you want.

 

[spanky]

@mistydawn Yeah I didn't really express that well. I meant that by approaching sex with her pleasure being 100% of the goal rather than mine it makes all the difference.

 

[naturesucks]

What about the operation?

Will you go trough it? Good luck.

Btw if there is a way to get a blood analysis to determine the maginsium levels in your body, i would recommend that first, before the pills. Sicne you are already going to the doctor it might be better to wait and hear his/her opinion first, maybe you will find something new. I somehow don't think that it is connected to magnesium but i have been wrong before , i think that the magnesium did repair the "deficit problems" but the other part acted as the placebo in confidence boost... but if it worked it worked.

I have the first urologist appointment this month. Yeah looking forward to fixing my frenulum as soon as possible.

About magnessium being a placebo: Well it worked for him. Also there are researches that hint magnessium may be linked to premature ejaculation, google it.
The quote of the guy:

I read your post bro, sounds like you have a Magnesium deficiency. I recommend Magnesium Glycinate 400mg before sex, helped me wonderfully, don't overdo it though, otherwise it'll be difficult to maintain wood after a while. Good luck and FYI, I was in the same position before.

About the blood anaylisis: He said it's very difficult to have an accurate idea of how much mg you have. I'll just quote him:

It's very difficult to do an Mg analysis simply because much of magnesium is found intracellularly so doing a blood plasma test will not provide a good result. "Kal" has great supplements as far as magnesium goes and that's what I use. Basically so many things can affect your Mg levels (RDA 400mg) like stress, alcohol, animal protein consumption, parasites (which also can affect brain chemistry where neurotransmitters are lower than usual) and some other crap I can't remember.

Kinda weird, I would expect that with nowadays technology it would be possible to get a pretty accurate data on that kind of sh*t, but oh well. Thats why if it's not possible then i'll just pop the magnessium pills and experiment. Nothing to lose.

I'll mention it to the urologist anyway, that i readed it on the internet. Let's see what he has to say.

okay i am new here and i have the same problem. i only read the main post.
but im thinking im faster than that. like last night it sucked balls. i had to stop, i kept stopping but when i get back into it i could still hang if i just go normal speed, but if i put my self to it and go fast i dont think i would last 20 seconds. i have to pull it out or i would came.

so im going to keep my eye on this thread. i hope there is still a way to clean up this mess otherwise my life would suck.

i was also thinking maybe because im small thats why i dont last long?

Well how small are you? Im 5.9 erect and like 3.9 flaccid which is not huge. I don't think there is a relation at all when it comes to size. Are you uncut? Do you have still your frenulum? Is it long enough to uncover all your foreskin? Now that may be relevant.

Hi Nature sucks. I am responding to your original post. An idea is to be more creative. It seems to me (since you say you have tried everything) that you need to change direction. There are sooooo many ways to please a woman beyond the cock. Most women would like more foreplay (which does not always means it happens before intercourse) activities. Become and expert at oral sex. Learn to use your hands. Find the girls g spot. Work on where to stimulate a girl to give her ejaculating orgasms. All women are capable of ejaculating but no one has hit it so it isn't happening. These types of things can get you a fan for life! And I mean a girl considering you one of the best they have ever had or even, the best ever! A woman will like a guy who is really into making her feel good. I know a guy who gets hot from see me in ecstasy is a big arousal boost. It gets me off.

The biggest sexual organ is the brain. A lot of a womans arousal is mental. This particular form of arousal will most likely work with girls that are not just a one night stand. You would need to have an idea of what turns them on already. I have shared before that whispering in my ear turns me to jelly.
It brings up my arousal level big time. Just whispering my name is good. Saying things that aren't whispered in the ear is good as well. Doing role play is a great way to boost womans arousal. Of course, again, this would have to be with more than a one night stand.

Good luck.

Sorry, I don't think what you said applies in real life. I can guarantee you that MOST girls will rate a proper fuck over oral. I've been with a decent amount of girls considering my really shitty performance, and I can tell you that even if im REALLY good eating pussy and I love doing it, it was ALLWAYS a "meh" reaction when they saw I couldn't deliver a proper fuck for more than a minute.

Also, I have friends that have fucked countless girls. They are real bros and get mad pussy all the time. I can tell you, all girls go crazy for a good fuck. If you can't deliver that, you are pretty much fucked. Of course there always will be the rare occasional girl that doesn't mind that you can't fuck them with your dick as long as you are good with your tongue. But again, just be aware that girls like you are really a minority, and if you can't fuck you ARE fucked. Thats how it is. I just don't want people to have fake expectations and be all happy and confident about cumming super fast expecting the girl to not give two fucks because you can eat some pussy. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you are not goin to get away with it. Just like guys with tiny cocks. They better start stretching and jelqing like crazy to at least get to the average size for their own good. Specially if you are into casual sex, this applies even more.