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Hi there. Im 21, and I cum fast a fuck. As far as I can remember, I always came really fast.

To have an idea of what im talking about, i'll try to describe it step by step:

1) Put on some porn
2) We start counting here, clock at 0:00 till around 1:30 where im hard
3) Now, im hard enough to be able to masturbate, so I start stroking, lets say, for 10, 20, 30 seconds
4) We are now around 1:50-2:00, where I guarantee I already had to stop any stimulation to avoid cumming. I have to STOP. Any contact with my penis when I feel like im about to cum would in fact make me start ejaculating, including leaving your hand there without stroking. Same goes for the PC muscle. I have to keep it relaxed. If I try to contract it, or do anything fancy with it, what I would do is start ejaculating.
5) I stop all stimulation for about 20 seconds, 30. So we are now at around 2:30. Cock went now semi-erect
6) I start stroking again, for lets say, 10, 20, 30 seconds. So we are at around 2:50
7) I feel like im cumming so I have to stop any stimulation.

Notice the loop?

After years and years of trying to do something with it, nothing worked. I can't get past that loop. I can't last longer than that before feeling that really pleasing feeling on the prostate zone that forces you to flex your PC muscle because the pleasure is not bearable anymore, and if you flex it, you cum. If I stop stimulation, as you can see, nothing changes, since soon (10 or 20 seconds) i'll be on that same point of "im about to cum" again, so sex is unviable, since just by having my cock inside a girls pussy would be enough to make me cum when I reach that point. When I say I have to stop ALL stimulation I mean ALL of it, as I said, including not leaving your hand there. The constant contact with the vaginal walls, temperature, the little vaginal contractions, vaginal juices... all of that is enough stimulation to make me cum, so I can't fuck. Yeah, I can't have sex.

Let me tell you, sometimes i've managed to cum semi erect. More flacid than erect. See point 5. When I get there and I stop, rest for around 30 seconds where it goes semi erect, then continue, I sometimes managed to cum after 20 or 30 seconds when I started to jerk off again. The shaft wasn't even able to get erect on that little time but I felt like fucking cumming again.

I also managed to stop ejaculation by flexing my PC muscle at the right time, but this doesn't help much. This would be helpful for normal people who feel like cuming every 4, 5 or 6 minutes. This is definitely not useable if you feel like cuming practically constantly. In fact it doesn't work if you don't stop all stimulation as well when you do the flexing. Example: Im hard as fuck reaching point 5, where I have to stop all stimulation. I decide to flex it before ejaculating, and if I don't get my hand out of my dick, I would cum anyway, sometimes managing a retrograde ejaculation, where I keep flexing hard as fuck while I feel the little contractions that you do in regular ejaculation, but without ejaculating. This is a pretty retarded thing to do, since you lose your bonner anyway.

Sometimes i've been able to do this like 3 or 4 times in a row. I don't know if this constitutes as being multiorgasmic, but as I said, it's pretty retarded since in real life situation: With a girl, having sex, you would FAIL.

As I said, the thing is, when I do that flexing right at the point of no return and I get a retro-ejaculation, feels like an orgasm, not as awesomely good as just letting yourself go and having a proper orgasm with ejaculation tho. Anyway, so as I said after the retro-ejaculation thing, your bonner fades a lot. So you are with a semi-boner. Definitely you don't feel as if you had a normal orgasm with ejaculation, you still feel like you didn't lost all your hornyness so to speak, but your penis is semi-erect and, if you are not pretty big (like me) it's pretty un-useable. What happens if I continue jerking off at this point is the following: If I don't rest like 30 or 40 seconds, and I inmediately after the retro-orgasm continue jerking off with the semi-boner state, I would cum pretty much inmediately, because my cock is still somehow in orgasm state, having those little involuntary PC muscle spasms that you get after ejaculating. So what I do is stopping for 30 or 40 seconds till this tingling sensation fades a bit. Then, I continue jerking off in semi-erect status, and im able to make it a bit harder again and reach another retro-orgasm if I decide to do a PC flex again when im about to cum. This takes like 40 or 50 seconds, not sure. If I flex again when im about to cum, same will happen, but this time, the semi-bonner will be much poorer, and it will take a bit longer (not too much tho) to be able to retro-ejaculate again. As I said I managed to have like 4 or 5 orgasms like this in the shower in no less than 5 minutes.

Again, this is simply not useable during sex. It's a waste of time. During sex you wouldn't be able to stop every fucking 20 or 30 seconds for half a minute, because the girl would simply get pissed off at you (that is if you didn't came when you tried to flex the PC muscle and stop the ejaculation inside her vagina, and I guarantee you I would came). And it doesn't even feel that good. I would prefeer to be able to have my cock fully erect and be able to stroke it as much as I want for at least 5 fucking minutes. This translates as being sexually functional, in other words being able to at least fuck a girl for 5 minutes. Im not.

Okay lets get straight to the point: I cum really fast. Things i've tried:

-I've tried Kegel routines, reverse Kegels, superKegels, etc. Never worked. My PC muscle is strong enough to be flexed for a minute straight if I tried.

-Trying to fuck/masturbate with your PC muscle totally relaxed: Doesn't work. The sensation of "omfg, im about to cum" will be there, and when it's there, i'll fucking flex it involuntarily if I don't stop all stimulation because the pleasure is way too much.

-Edging. I've been doing this forever. Always trying to spend at least 30 minutes in a fap session, never cum too fast. But again, read the 7 steps I described. Im still at that 30-50 second margin loop, so no progress done.

So now I ask: What is there for me left to try?

You know what. God or whoever that cunt up there is has a sense of humor. So he gives me the ability to attract girls easily. Tick there. He gives me the ability to bring these girls to bed. Tick there. He gives me a 5.9 inch penis that is 3.9 flacid (so be sure to not get your pants down unless you at least have a semiboner), with premature ejaculation to boot. FML

The last thing I can think about that has something to do with my premature ejaculation is my frenulum being short. My penis is uncut, so I have the foresking intact. I can get my foreskin all the way back down flacid, but when its fully erect, I can't without the frenulum being really tight. I can pull the foreskin back down the glans if im holding it with my hand and putting presure down, but since at this point the frenulum is really tight, if I stop holding it with my hand the foreskin go up and cover at least half the gland. This, besides being annoying as fuck and having the risk of tearing your frenulum, makes for a less aesthetically pleasing cock.
Another thing I hate about my cock is my curvature. It's curved like 40 degrees or so to the left, which also kills the aesthetics of your cock and makes it look smaller. Also it's pretty anoying because the girl wouldn't be able to blowjob you nohands, since she would always need to hold it with a hand to avoid it falling down to the left.
The way the curvature is done and the way the frenulum curves aswell makes me think that the curvature is a result of having a short frenulum and during development the shaft curved.
Anyway, the main problem is not being able to fuck, and here is some medical research that link frenulum breve with premature ejaculation:


Wabrek and Wabrek.*
Dyspareunia
Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy Spring 1975: Vol.1, No.3, Pages: 234-41
"A tight frenulum can also cause dyspareunia. In the course of healing, scar tissue forms which shortens the frenulum even more and predisposes it to even more tearing and scarring, and a vicious cycle is set up."

*Sometimes it leads to premature ejaculation.*

S. Rejasse
Ejaculation prématurée - (French text)
Premature Ejaculation
J Urol (Paris) 1987;93(9-10):557-60
"There is nothing which leads to premature ejaculation more often than in those specific cases where the frenulum of the prepuce is too short. If it is still present following the first sexual encounters this anomaly frequently leads to premature ejaculation, however it is easy to cure under local anaesthetic without being admitted to hospital. Therefore it is the responsibility of every doctor and surgeon to detect this and to enquire after the sexuality of the man concerned, because most of the time, the patient himself will not dare confront the problem. In this matter the doctor has a truly prophylactic role in averting a catastrophic development."
My last resort is getting a frenulum surgery. I have to do this anyway since I fear its going to get teared since its a bit short. As I said, I can get the foreskin all the way back, but at this point is already tense and I get that sort of skin ring at the bottom of my glands (get the idea right, it's not a phimotic ring case, is just that remaning skin gets stuck there because I can retract it fully due the frenulum being too short). I hope that I get rid of some sensitivity aswell since i obviously have way too much. I've also heard people talking about getting a little bonus in lenght, so I guess nothing bad can come out of it.

The only thing that scares me about the surgery is the unaesthetic marks/bumps that may result from it. I've heard people talking about some disgusting bump in the frenulum area after the surgery. Anyone got the surgery done and can comment on results?
What method did the surgeon use? Afaik there are 3: scalp, electric-scalp and laser. Whats the best one? (whats the one that leaves less marks). Can't find much information on this out there.

Also something very interesting i've found is this method:

Tying Up the Frenulum

The pictures are impressive. I can't see the frenulum anymore, and I can't see any ugly bump or scar, looks great.
The problem is I've *never* heard anyone talking about that method, and theres no fucking way im doing it to myself, even if its "simple". Do you think urologist are aware of this method? If so, why the hell aren't they applying this by default to everyone? For me aesthetics are as important as functionability. It pisses me off a lot that it seems that unless you aren't a porn actor or something it doesn't matter if they leave you an ugly bump or scars and you aren't allowed to complain. I want my penis looking as good as possible, fuck. Im sure everyone with a penis wants that.

Im going to an urologist soon. I've never been to one. I will tell him (or her, I hope. Why the fuck there aren't hot girls as urologists) about my frenulum problem, then I'll tell him I cum really fast, if both problems are linked and so on. Embarrasing as fuck but I can't take it anymore. I hope something can be done about it, otherwise im not sure what im going to do. A life without being able to please a girl is not a life, but a cognitive hell of frustration.
Im young and im not interested in relationships. Im interested in having sex with hot girls. I can't do this and feels really bad. Feels even worse knowing that your only problem is that, because you can attract girls easily, but can't deliver good sex.

PS: Im really interested in Penis Enlargement in general. Im wanting to start exercising so I recently started with the newbie routine off Thundersplace. I do them at the shower with really hot water to warm up. It's basically 5 minutes of warm up, 10 minutes of stretching, 10 minutes of jelqing, warm up again. The problem is I can't be on the shower for 20 minutes because my parents would think im retarded, so I stretch and do the jelqings when im here on the computer. Is there any problem with this? Another problem I have is that when stretching, it's really difficult for me to hold the penis in order to make a proper stretch. I think its all the frenulum's fault. It's REALLY annoying because since it's tight it can hurt and the foreskin gets on the way. What I do to stretch is, when totally flacid, I retract the foresking all the way down, put the "OK" grip with my fingers under right under the glands and stretch the fuck out of it. Is this correct? The most effective stretch I can do is if I pull down or front. If I pull up i can't hold it for 30 seconds, my fingers slide throught the gland.
While jeling I have a similar problem. Due my curvature and short frenulum the foreskin gets stuck under the gland when im making presure from the base till the top and it hurts. Can you grow the same if you only use the "C" finger position? With that grip I have no problem making hard presure and doing the full motion.
Also, what intensitiy do you have to apply to your stretching/jelqing? I've heard specially when stretching you have to pull real hard. It has to hurt so the ligaments break in order to grow. Is this right?

I guess all information is helpful so, my diet: Is basically a mediterranean diet. Im a rather skinny guy but im pretty lean. The food I eat is all good stuff my mom cooks. I never eat fast food. I don't smoke and I don't drink alcohol. I lift some weights (btw, can you do your enlargement exercises just after lifting weights? as I said I like to do em in the shower after lifting. Any conflict with this?). Post workout I usually dinner + a banana.

PS2: I've read so many people here that sound really wise when it comes to premature ejaculation and penis-related stuff in general at a chemical level, so i have to mention that I grow a pretty ridiculous amount of leg and arm hair. More than my father and im only 21. Can this be related to anything? Im also losing hair on my head. I mean, im NOT going bald, but I have a little widow peak (a bit weird, the left side is deeper than the right side), not noticeable due my haircut, but its there. I visited a dermatologist and said it was normal, that some people have a widow peak naturally but that doesn't mean you are going bald anytime soon. My dad is bald but hes near 60, but he had hair at 35 so I shouldn't be too worried I guess until I start getting old as fuck. All family members mom-related have hair (even my grandfather) so I hope I got their genes hair-related.
The dermatologist gave me a Minoxidil Lacovin 2% and some shampoo that I still haven't tried, because I wanted more information before I put anything on my hair. Anyone has any experiences with Minoxidil Lacovin 2%?

Well thats all for now. Sorry for the massive rant but im really pissed. We'll see how it goes when I visit the urologist and stuff. I guess he maybe will mention anti-depressants to try to last longer. That is the last thing I would resort to, but well, theres nothing much to do if after the frenulum surgery im still cuming as fast. The thought of depending on pills the rest of your life in order to have sex is pretty shitty. Side-effects also bother me. I've heard they can be really expensive aswell. Here in the country where I live, there used to be this pill named "Priligy" (not sure if someone is familiar with it), it got pretty hyped here as "a cure for premature ejaculation", later proved to be pretty meh when it comes to results, and side effects included pretty serious stuff like fainting (I guess that would be a rare case but still). I think it basically was dapoxetina and who the fuck knows what else (I guess you can find it in Google). You'll need the doc permision to be able to buy it, and it's fucking 34€/box, 3 FUCKING PILLS PER BOX! They want to get rich out of fucking premature ejaculators. It's crazy. We'll I don't know what they are prescribing nowadays to fight premature ejaculation, let's wait and see what the urologist offers for a solution.

Btw, I once readed some guy who bought some Kamagra (apparently a cheaper Viagra) just to try out of disspair. Popped a pill of that and besides lasting a bit longer, he was hard as fuck for hours. Even if you ejaculated after one minute, you would go on continuing. Anyone has any information on that one? I think it would be kinda sad relying on Viagra-ish pills at 21, but what the fuck. If anything else works, I'll end up giving a try to anything.

I'll keep you guys updated if anyone cares when I visit the urologist. Thanks for any help/advice.
 
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Wow, this definitely deserves a rep point as a first post. I have to go now, but will try to answer this tomorrow, or as far as I can anyway :) I hope that you will get a fair amount of responses.

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Wow, a huge post, I'll admit I gave it a 'skim' at best, I will go back and address more points if I feel there's more I can develop on.
For starters, welcome to the gym, like UYN said this thread should get you a lot of answers.
As for your size, it's a good size, trust me. I would say your flaccid is longer than many guys with the same erect stats. But everyone's different, show'ers and grow'ers and such.
As for the frenulum problem, stretch it. Easy! I actually have tight foreskin aswell so you have me beat on that front.
www.network54.com/Forum/244184/

Find the pictures depicting the frenulum stretch, even post a thread if necessary.
Not sure I can help with the pre-ejac problems but it's late and I'm tired so tomorrow I'll try to address more of your worries like I said.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help but give it time. The great penile cavalry will be here soon!
 

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Ok for starters. Are you a virgin? I will go in detail after you answer if it is needed, answer honestly.

Now i will recommend to you to stop watching porn all together, just masturbate on imagination, use light grip and try to make a edging last for more than 20 minutes a day. (yes i read the part when you said that you tried it).

For this to work you have to stop watching all forms of porn, and also if you are not from now on (if the privacy allows it) edge fully naked. If you start experiencing to fast returns like in your description make a one hour pause then start all over. You should do this for a week or so. Forget about all the kegels and everything don't bother yourself with unconscious kegel. Make sure that you are focused on your body all the time during edge, try to moan try to free yourself. I know it sounds stupid and lame but you have nothing to lose.

In the mean time go here How to Fix Phimosis and Tight Foreskins, Solutions That Work: Frenulum stretching read the topic and start doing those exercises, don't do them to much but do them every day.

Also if you have the time read this
https://www.pegym.com/forums/premature-ejaculation-forum/17060-pe-mmo-minutemans-orgasmic-log.html

I myself started as a minute man, thats in one minute man :) I am also uncut, and my frenulum is kinda short (was but i was stretching it as a kid, didn't even know that was an exercise....), so what i write here isn't something i heard some where it is something i done :)

So lines:
- No porn
- Edge over 25 minutes or so, if ponr to frekvent make a hour brake.
- Naked and make moans, try to be free as much as you can
- Do the stretches carefully
- Caress your dick into full erection, don't jerk it into full erection.
- Move your hands all over your body and try to feel your touches, try to enjoy them.
- Don't bother with random ejaculation, if you do them you do them, after you have ejaculated don't continue rest for a day. Try to enjoy them as much as you can.
- When edging don't always do it the same way, change hands positions, hand grips, but always light to medium never hard.
- Learn to balloon, that is rubbing your glands only with one finger at the frenulum area while your foreskin is over your head.

Also try form time to time:
- Use lots of lubricants (i just use saliva it works for me) pull your foreskin back to reveal the head fully, hold in in fixed position with one hand and lubricate your glands and your other hand and gently to the edging motion but without the foreskin (in other words jerk like you are circumcised), be gentle.

I believe that this will work, but it is crucial that you use your imagination and not porn, and don't set any goals just enjoy the process.

This might sound all stupid for you but it worked for me and i believe that it will work for you.

Also the most important thing DO IT SLOWLY AND GRADUALLY!
 
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Ok for starters. Are you a virgin? I will go in detail after you answer if it is needed, answer honestly.

Now i will recommend to you to stop watching porn all together, just masturbate on imagination, use light grip and try to make a edging last for more than 20 minutes a day. (yes i read the part when you said that you tried it).

For this to work you have to stop watching all forms of porn, and also if you are not from now on (if the privacy allows it) edge fully naked. If you start experiencing to fast returns like in your description make a one hour pause then start all over. You should do this for a week or so. Forget about all the kegels and everything don't bother yourself with unconscious kegel. Make sure that you are focused on your body all the time during edge, try to moan try to free yourself. I know it sounds stupid and lame but you have nothing to lose.

In the mean time go here How to Fix Phimosis and Tight Foreskins, Solutions That Work: Frenulum stretching read the topic and start doing those exercises, don't do them to much but do them every day.

Also if you have the time read this
https://www.pegym.com/forums/premature-ejaculation-forum/17060-pe-mmo-minutemans-orgasmic-log.html

I myself started as a minute man, thats in one minute man :) I am also uncut, and my frenulum is kinda short (was but i was stretching it as a kid, didn't even know that was an exercise....), so what i write here isn't something i heard some where it is something i done :)

So lines:
- No porn
- Edge over 25 minutes or so, if ponr to frekvent make a hour brake.
- Naked and make moans, try to be free as much as you can
- Do the stretches carefully
- Caress your dick into full erection, don't jerk it into full erection.
- Move your hands all over your body and try to feel your touches, try to enjoy them.
- Don't bother with random ejaculation, if you do them you do them, after you have ejaculated don't continue rest for a day. Try to enjoy them as much as you can.
- When edging don't always do it the same way, change hands positions, hand grips, but always light to medium never hard.
- Learn to balloon, that is rubbing your glands only with one finger at the frenulum area while your foreskin is over your head.

Also try form time to time:
- Use lots of lubricants (i just use saliva it works for me) pull your foreskin back to reveal the head fully, hold in in fixed position with one hand and lubricate your glands and your other hand and gently to the edging motion but without the foreskin (in other words jerk like you are circumcised), be gentle.

I believe that this will work, but it is crucial that you use your imagination and not porn, and don't set any goals just enjoy the process.

This might sound all stupid for you but it worked for me and i believe that it will work for you.

Also the most important thing DO IT SLOWLY AND GRADUALLY!

Im not a virgin. As I said im a pretty good looking guy and I have no problem when it comes to having confidence and all that, the only problem is I suck at bed so girls don't call me back for more.

I had a 4 month relationship with a girl. She was cool enough to stay with me even when she was aware of my premature ejaculation problem. We both thought I would improve over time but things never got much better. We eventually broke up mainly because of this, and im totally ok with it. My tongue skills are great but that is not enough to keep a girl happy. A girl wants a proper fuck, thats why we have dicks.

I also managed to get 3 girls naked. As you can imagine the sex was not great so I never repeated. At this point I said to myself I would never try to have sex again until I managed to at least be sure that I wouldn't cum as fast. To at least be able to masturbate without feeling that im about to cum all the time, because if you can't hold it when masturbating alone, when I have a girl naked for me you can guess the result.

About stretching: I used to stretch my frenulum everytime in the shower. Did this for fucking months. I eventually noticed it got less tight, but as long as I stopped stretching it got back to normal. Honestly I can't be bothered anymore with it. The thought of starting to stretching again to no avail is depressing. I would rather have the surgery done and forget about it. I would love to get it done with the tying method I mentioned, it looks right about perfect. I will mention this method to the urologist and hopefully he knows what the fuck im talking about.

I've found this about stretching in the "Tying frenulum" page and I totally agree with it:

Stretching the Frenulum is sometimes advised - It must considered as an experiment, usually requiring several months of 5 times daily stretching. I feel this is more problematic than almost any other method - requiring a dedication which verges on obsession - however some men may wish to use this method.
Testing this would only be intelligent for someone with a mild degree of brevity where the frenulum was not connected near the meatus, and a frenulum which was not hemmed or topped with a string.
About edging:

Yeah, im pretty familiar with it as you readed. I sometime did sessions up to 2 hours of edging straight (always trapped in that 30-40 second stop, constantly feeling like I was about to cum).

I live with my parents so I cant get naked and moan like a retard unfortunately.

- No porn
I've tried fapping in the bathroom, and in the shower, where there is no porn. I cum as fast. Anyway, I will give a try to the "stop viewing porn when masturbating" thing. For how much time?
To be honest, would that be really helpful? Don't wanna brag about it, but some of the girls I managed to get naked are way hotter than most of the girls I see in porn flicks.
Again will try anyway.

- Learn to balloon, that is rubbing your glands only with one finger at the frenulum area while your foreskin is over your head.
Yeah, im aware of this. I like to do that, feels great. Im able to get really close to the PONR and stay there. Lots of precum eventually. Too bad at the minimun reflex or unwanted stimulation (being with a girl, real life situation) you can't stay at the PONR like you do when you are alone. I would cum instantly.

- Use lots of lubricants (i just use saliva it works for me) pull your foreskin back to reveal the head fully, hold in in fixed position with one hand and lubricate your glands and your other hand and gently to the edging motion but without the foreskin (in other words jerk like you are circumcised), be gentle.
Also done this before, with saliva. Makes me cum way too fast, porn ot not. If I put the foreskin all the way back, means the frenulum is really tight at this point, which means is in constant excitement. In fact, I managed to cum just by holding my skin back and pulling down from the base doing an OK grip (which means direct stimulation is really far from the really sensitive areas) because the frenulum was so tight I ejaculated. I didn't even need to touch it.

- Don't bother with random ejaculation, if you do them you do them, after you have ejaculated don't continue rest for a day. Try to enjoy them as much as you can.
Also tried the "don't bother if you cum, try to enjoy it. If you are focusing too much in not cumming that'll make you cum" approach, always present in new-ageish books about sex. Unfortunately, this didn't really work for me. There was a period where I tried this, I just would focus on the pleasure and all, and let myself go. Well, I came as fast, and it never got any better.


- Edge over 25 minutes or so, if ponr to frekvent make a hour brake.
The problem is, im basically near the PONR constantly. As long as I achieve an erection, i'll get there fast and i'll be stuck there, and cum if I don't stop continiously.

Anyway, will try everything you said while not watching porn until my urologist visit which should be in the next 3-4 weeks I guess (Social security is slow as fuck)

Thanks for replies.

PS: Im not really a newbie on all of this. I've been lurking Thundersplace for a long time, but never got my head around a strict PE routine, mainly because everyime I tried I got pissed at how difficult it was for me to do the exercises due the curvature and short frenulum. Hopefully it gets easier when I get it fixed. Btw if anyone can comment on my PE stretching and jelqing questions would be appreciated. Would like to exercise until surgery.

PS2: I've been reading a bit your journal on going from a 1 minute man to multi-orgasmic. Sounds good, but did you try it in real life? (with a girl). Are you able to fuck a girl real hard, have a dry-orgasm and not lose your erection? For how long? Now that would be awesome.
 
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Well as you have read i'm still a virgin so no, none of this was "field-tested" by i honestly have no fear that it will be all right. Begin a virgin my credibility in this drops in the eyes of some. But what i have done worked for me, and i am sure that it will work in bed, at least for me, at least the part where i can last longer, mmo part will require some work.

About moaning like a retard, lol what can i say it sounds retarded by the moaning helped me alot, not the forced moaning or howling or that sh*t, a normal not to loud not to silent moaning that comes as the reflex that i used to "not do" because it sounded retarded and stupid to me, that only helped my premature ejaculation. But it probably depends on a person, if i didn't do that i don't think i would be able to go this far.

I have a short frenulum to and i have noticed that it doesn't helps me much in pe, so your with to get that might be a solution to your problem, but even when you operate you will still have a problem based simply on habit and psychology. But even with a short frenulum you should be able to function normally it sure doesn't help much but in reality i had sessions where i stayed near ponr for 15 minutes and longer with constant stimulation.

It is a shame that none of this is helping you.

Also done this before, with saliva. Makes me cum way too fast, porn ot not. If I put the foreskin all the way back, means the frenulum is really tight at this point, which means is in constant excitement. In fact, I managed to cum just by holding my skin back and pulling down from the base doing an OK grip (which means direct stimulation is really far from the really sensitive areas) because the frenulum was so tight I ejaculated. I didn't even need to touch it.

I have done this also so i know what you are talking about, it also made me go over edge many many times. But the good thing is that i can more or less when erected stuff my foreskin in the back of my glands and thanks to the short frenulum it is all thight but sooner or later i got used to the feeling.

I've tried fapping in the bathroom, and in the shower, where there is no porn. I cum as fast. Anyway, I will give a try to the "stop viewing porn when masturbating" thing. For how much time?
To be honest, would that be really helpful? Don't wanna brag about it, but some of the girls I managed to get naked are way hotter than most of the girls I see in porn flicks.
Again will try anyway

It is not about the girl it is about tempo and detachemnt. When you are watching porn you are unconsciously going in tempo that is not yours, every man has his own tempo, the other thing is that you are then to detached from your body.

When you are jerking of the way you are jekring of send singals to the brain how to function, if the pleasure is limited to your dick only the brain things the point is to ejaculate, but when the focus shifts on the whole body you are basically teling your brain that you like it and that you want more. Moans how ever retarded may sound to you are one of those triggers, it is a way of expressing pleasure. The nakedness is important also because the new sensations, focus your attention oh whole of the body not just one point, the dick.

Also puling on the frenelum triggers my kegel also, but in time i have trained that that doesn't happen, sometimes when my mind is of it returns but when i'm focused the kegel remains still.

Of course all of this is done without the girl so my points may be moot, but somehow i don't think so.

Having sex and watching porn are different because the tempo and attachment is there, you will also feel the skin of your girlfriend and body looks at that differently.

It is a shame that you didn't find a girl that is patient enough to help you trough the process.


About DOs and MMOs:

When you DO and you hold a kegel in order to stop the emission there is a period when your dick feels much less sensations, and can make you last longer in bed when done correctly it does requires much practice and fine tuning so it is not always a easy way, but it works.

The goal in DO is not retro ejaculation, if you are retro ejaculating (ie sperm goes to the bladder instead of staying there and being reabsorbed or whatnot). Also you probably need a stronger kegel since your orgasms are strong, just holding it with a medium kegel isn't enough. i can hold kegel for a long time but it is different when you have to do it when ejaculating. When you do a good clean DO your dick stays hard with maybe a little drop in erection and gets a little numb, so that you can continue if you have the motivation (which you have).

One of the "problems" is that you are 21 young healthy and with a good sex drive, as you get older your need to cumm that fast will subside to some point.

About your curve, it can be fixed with the PE exercises to a point or totally, but i have no experience in that so i will leave it to ones that have.

The bottom line is that the frenulum is probably causing much trouble but for some reason i simply don't think that is a reason alone, rather just a nasty reflex you have problem retraining, but if the operation does you good then do it, it might fix things, and i hope it will, i just hope it doesn't prove to have nothing with it.

Good luck, i am sad that my advices were not of any assistance to you :(
 

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Have you ever thought about just letting the idea of surgery, pills, etc. go and just think about ACCEPTING your premature ejaculation "problem," the curve, and all the rest? There are people out there who would give their eyeteeth (at the least) to have your libido--at any age.

There is more than one way to skin a cat here. You could just plan on having longer intercourse so that once you ejaculate, wait a short time and get right back at it. Go for a second and if possible a third round or more. Wear that overanxious pecker of yours out until it just withers and wilts, like the evil witch in The Wizard of Oz. You are giving it too much power.

By the way, if you come back right away for seconds, and thirds, etc. the girl will be delighted and you will gain a reputation as the stud of the block. :p They'll be knocking down your door to get at some of that pecker power you possess. :D
 
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I'm not sure if you have decide to do the frenulum surgery or not, but it sounds like you have? If so I am not sure what you are asking about. I feel that you asked something, then answered it. Regarding the jelqing, there is are several uncut members that experience "difficulties" while doing so, but threads have been made. If you do a search it will probably help you find some answers. And no, the point of stretching is not to "break" your ligs, by pulling at the very hard.. Read the stickies in the beginner's forum, it will help you understand basic PE.

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Wow, a huge post, I'll admit I gave it a 'skim' at best, I will go back and address more points if I feel there's more I can develop on.
For starters, welcome to the gym, like UYN said this thread should get you a lot of answers.
As for your size, it's a good size, trust me. I would say your flaccid is longer than many guys with the same erect stats. But everyone's different, show'ers and grow'ers and such.
As for the frenulum problem, stretch it. Easy! I actually have tight foreskin aswell so you have me beat on that front.
www.network54.com/Forum/244184/

Find the pictures depicting the frenulum stretch, even post a thread if necessary.
Not sure I can help with the pre-ejac problems but it's late and I'm tired so tomorrow I'll try to address more of your worries like I said.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help but give it time. The great penile cavalry will be here soon!


I guess 5.9 is average, but of course I want more. I would be content with only +1 inch, and I guess that's not impossible.

Well as you have read i'm still a virgin so no, none of this was "field-tested" by i honestly have no fear that it will be all right. Begin a virgin my credibility in this drops in the eyes of some. But what i have done worked for me, and i am sure that it will work in bed, at least for me, at least the part where i can last longer, mmo part will require some work.

How old are you? Well, I can guarantee things will only get harder when you get to fuck a proper girl. Besides all senses are much more excited, you'll have no control compared to being alone. You can't be stopping every now and then because most girls will get pissed. Most girls usually like a proper hard, fast fuck (fast as intense, not as a short period of time, lol). They will usually go from slow, to faster and faster, to reach orgasm. If you stop you'll end the momentum and they'll find that annoying, and that's ruined by premature ejaculation. If your girl is multiorgasmic, you are specially fucked as a premature ejaculator. Multiorgasmic girls are insatiable.
This is based on the girls i've been with plus everyone's girlfriends and random girls my friends have fucked (loads).

About moaning like a retard, lol what can i say it sounds retarded by the moaning helped me alot, not the forced moaning or howling or that sh*t, a normal not to loud not to silent moaning that comes as the reflex that i used to "not do" because it sounded retarded and stupid to me, that only helped my premature ejaculation. But it probably depends on a person, if i didn't do that i don't think i would be able to go this far.

Im not saying it's something retarded to do, it's just that I live with my parents so you can't moan while masturbating all naked. Of course if you over do it with exaggerated moans girls may think it's silly.

Also puling on the frenelum triggers my kegel also, but in time i have trained that that doesn't happen, sometimes when my mind is of it returns but when i'm focused the kegel remains still.

I forgot to mention this: It's said that its better to simply have your muscles relaxed during masturbation/sex to last longer. I've sometimes experienced how my cock starts to lose the bonner due never flexing the PC muscle, but the pleasure is still there. Of course you don't want it to go soft when you are with a girl, so im forced to flex a bit and get some blood flow on there (I guess people normally do this now an then to keep a strong bonner). The problem is, sometimes when doing the flex I managed to cum (as I said, sometimes I managed to cum with a semi-bonner or even more flacid than that). So it's a bit of a fucked up situation, trying to get your hardon again but you can't flex your PC muscle because you'll cum. What to do then? I usually just try luck and flex it, you are doingnothing without a hard cock anyway.

It is a shame that you didn't find a girl that is patient enough to help you trough the process.

Lol, I did man. I said I was with the same girl for 4 months, 4 months are lots of days and hours. I still didn't manage to get much better so it's obvious the relationship was not going to last forever. I would rather break up than believe she wouldn't start cheating with another guy who can deliver a proper fuck to be honest.

Have you ever thought about just letting the idea of surgery, pills, etc. go and just think about ACCEPTING your premature ejaculation "problem," the curve, and all the rest? There are people out there who would give their eyeteeth (at the least) to have your libido--at any age.

lol, yeah. It's totally accepted, a long time ago. But nothing changed, I was still not able to provide a proper fuck, so I decided to do something about it.

There is more than one way to skin a cat here. You could just plan on having longer intercourse so that once you ejaculate, wait a short time and get right back at it. Go for a second and if possible a third round or more. Wear that overanxious pecker of yours out until it just withers and wilts, like the evil witch in The Wizard of Oz. You are giving it too much power.

Yep, I've tried the: "Masturbate before having sex" method. The "doesn't matter if you cum fast the first time, you'll last longer next time" method aswell. Both didn't work. Why? It's simple: As long as I reach an erection and start stroking/fucking, i'll cum practically as fast as the last time. It doesn't matter if I have 1 or 5 ejaculations throught the day. If I manage to get a sixth bonner after so much usage, i'll still cum fast.

By the way, if you come back right away for seconds, and thirds, etc. the girl will be delighted and you will gain a reputation as the stud of the block. :p They'll be knocking down your door to get at some of that pecker power you possess. :D

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Nature I know exactly what your going through man. Ive tried kegels, reverse kegels,edging, fleshlights, no porn, nothing has worked for me either. I can edge all day if I wanted too, but as soon as I get a chick in bed and we start getting busy I bust quicker than a balloon at a 5 year olds birthday party. The only advice I can give you is to get your hands on some stud spray or tramadol. The spray is gonna numb the hell out of your dick so the sex wont be as enjoyable as it normally is, but in my opinion it is a relationship saver. My girl would have left me a long time ago if I had never found it. With the right dosage you can last for hours, and then those hotties you been messing with wont have any reason to look elsewhere.

Then in the meantime you can play around with all the exercises and techniques until you find one that works for you. I personally havent found one yet, so if you find something let me know.
 

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I'm 26 :)

What can i say, once i have sex with some girl (in a decade or so lol) i will wite about it here. No all people experience premature ejaculation the same way.

Well i have done all i can do to help you. I hope that one day you will be able to find your solution (i hope that that operation helps). And i will be glad to hear it.
 

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The answer, including for duo sex, is reverse kegels.
 

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hi
why dont you try what is suggested on these forums like advised... such as kegals, edging etc. BUT also use condoms with desentiszing cream in it such as durex performa... it numbs the penis so u can go on longer..
also try priligy its the first pill made for P.E issues. worked a treat for me but bloody expensive.

using pills and delay creams isnt a cure, but can help along side the natural suggestions made on this forum... im very inexperienced so maybe your like me and need to get used to it... its all in the mind.

priligy was amazing for me, it totally relaxed me i felt chilled like i smoked weed or somthing... use it as a aid to succeed but not as a perm cure..
 

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Also something very interesting i've found is this method:

Tying Up the Frenulum

AH! FUCK, man! That hurt! And I'll have nightmares from the two last paragraphs. My mind actually couldn't believe and wouldn't piece it all together the way that... so that what I thought it said.. really was what it said. Jesus Christ. Some people are crazy; stick a thorn in and... pfffffffffffff!


I didn't read ALL of this thread yet but I have a question:
As long as I reach an erection and start stroking/fucking, i'll cum practically as fast as the last time. It doesn't matter if I have 1 or 5 ejaculations throught the day. If I manage to get a sixth bonner after so much usage, i'll still cum fast.

Dude, how is that a problem. First of all, you're the man. When you come it was fucking time to come and, girl, shut hell up and swallow. Then you get hard again and go for round two. You come again and if she's a girl who loves cum then she'll obviously love it too. If you can come six times in 30 minutes, hiw's that a problem. I mean, I personally don't have premature ej. problems or experience with it and these are just ideas that I wonder about. In part because of my own experience, because and I can basically force my dick to stay 70-80% hard after I come and go on fucking without delay. I found out that it's a matter of will; if I think about it and want to stay hard, I can; don't think about it and it never happens. With this I can come once every 20 minutes, like clockwork. And stay hard enough to fuck in between. I can go on until I'm dehydrated and die. :D haha But my record was something like 12 orgasms in a day (was hard to actually keep count though. need to make a checklist on my girl's booty or something haha :D), and 6 orgasms is a good, regular fuck where time doesn't matter (so: prostitutes are out. those get two cumshots and that's it).

So, question from me to you is: Can you go on fucking in between coming?
 

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Having read up on the frenulum breve problem I've got to say, messing around with the frenulum sounds like a crime. Like some human rights, amnesty international violation. I'd rather have them gimme a frankenstein dick by transplanting some of my own skin to my inner foreskin, below the frenulum, so that it doesn't have that far to stretch. Why isn't that possible?

The method of pulling a thread around the frenulum and let it cut itself slowly is even on the German and English wikipedia sites, so it's got to be well know to doctors.

on the german site it says there is a way to treat the condition in some cases by applying a mix of chamomile and Bepanthene creme. The english one talks about treating it topically with steroid creme.

There are so many people on this forum who have frenulum breve and yet it affects how many men? Isn't it 1 in a hundred??

What's funny is that frenulum breve can be a result of circumcision. Circumcision, for a big part, is done to prevent problems with too tight frenulum and too tight hood. Even though those things affect 1.5% or 2% of all men...
 

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Nature I know exactly what your going through man. Ive tried kegels, reverse kegels,edging, fleshlights, no porn, nothing has worked for me either. I can edge all day if I wanted too, but as soon as I get a chick in bed and we start getting busy I bust quicker than a balloon at a 5 year olds birthday party. The only advice I can give you is to get your hands on some stud spray or tramadol. The spray is gonna numb the hell out of your dick so the sex wont be as enjoyable as it normally is, but in my opinion it is a relationship saver. My girl would have left me a long time ago if I had never found it. With the right dosage you can last for hours, and then those hotties you been messing with wont have any reason to look elsewhere.

Then in the meantime you can play around with all the exercises and techniques until you find one that works for you. I personally havent found one yet, so if you find something let me know.

Thanks for reply man. Good to know im not alone. About the cream, I guess it would work if you were in a serious relationship, but if your goal is casual sex with a girl you meet at a club or something, finding the moment to put cream all over your dick would be problematic. Most times you manage to get laid with a random girl you'll go directly for it, there is no time for that, so im fucked.

Think about it. How would you proceed? "Excuse me girl, I gotta go to the bath and apply this weird cream all over my cock before we fuck because I cum too fast, brb". It sucks. Nothing beats the heat of the passion. You are talking with her, still with clothes, and you start with the foreplay and then the fuck. If you need to go to the bath first to do that it would kinda kill the moment.

I'll not bother doing anything until I visit the urologist in around 3 weeks anyway, let's see what he says.

I'm 26 :)

What can i say, once i have sex with some girl (in a decade or so lol) i will wite about it here. No all people experience premature ejaculation the same way.

Well i have done all i can do to help you. I hope that one day you will be able to find your solution (i hope that that operation helps). And i will be glad to hear it.

A decade? Dude, you are already 26, think about it seriously. Don't miss the best years of your life, sex at your sexual peak years is something that can't be missed. Now I just need to not cum fast as fuck and try again.

I know that "everyone has his/her time to lose virginity", but don't get tricked. Sex while young > sex being old. Mainly because the older you get, the less attractive and sexually active girls you'll be able to get.

Well again, it's your life so whatever.


The answer, including for duo sex, is reverse kegels.

Reverse kegels, I can do them. I don't see them helping much. It doesn't make the "im about to cum" feeling go away. If I do a reverse kegel while masturbating/pumping in-out in a girls pussy, i'll cum. Again, I can't afford stopping every 30 seconds if I want her to call me back.

Also, beware while doing reverse kegels. If you do it too strong you'll sh*t your pants (true story, almost happens to me lol).

btw whats "duo sex"?

hi
why dont you try what is suggested on these forums like advised... such as kegals, edging etc. BUT also use condoms with desentiszing cream in it such as durex performa... it numbs the penis so u can go on longer..
also try priligy its the first pill made for P.E issues. worked a treat for me but bloody expensive.

using pills and delay creams isnt a cure, but can help along side the natural suggestions made on this forum... im very inexperienced so maybe your like me and need to get used to it... its all in the mind.

priligy was amazing for me, it totally relaxed me i felt chilled like i smoked weed or somthing... use it as a aid to succeed but not as a perm cure..

Yeah, i've tried "desentiszing condoms". It didn't really work that well. And it felt really weird. My cock was a bit red after fucking, and the girl said it tasted weird.

About Priligy: If you readed my main initial thread, you would see that in my country that pill was totally hyped and conclusions where that the pill was a failure. Usually the improvement was minimun in time (like fucking for 3 minutes before you started to feel the goddamn feeling of im about to cum, gotta stop"). Again, 34€ for a box with only 3 fucking pills is insane. I would like to fuck at least 2 times everyday so it's simply ridiculous. I hope the urologist doesn't tell me to buy those pills because I will tell him to fuck off.

AH! FUCK, man! That hurt! And I'll have nightmares from the two last paragraphs. My mind actually couldn't believe and wouldn't piece it all together the way that... so that what I thought it said.. really was what it said. Jesus Christ. Some people are crazy; stick a thorn in and... pfffffffffffff!

Lol, the last two paragraphs have nothing to do with it. That is how it was done by ancient crazy ass people in Africa.

Dude, how is that a problem. First of all, you're the man. When you come it was fucking time to come and, girl, shut hell up and swallow. Then you get hard again and go for round two. You come again and if she's a girl who loves cum then she'll obviously love it too. If you can come six times in 30 minutes, hiw's that a problem. I mean, I personally don't have premature ej. problems or experience with it and these are just ideas that I wonder about. In part because of my own experience, because and I can basically force my dick to stay 70-80% hard after I come and go on fucking without delay. I found out that it's a matter of will; if I think about it and want to stay hard, I can; don't think about it and it never happens. With this I can come once every 20 minutes, like clockwork. And stay hard enough to fuck in between. I can go on until I'm dehydrated and die. :D haha But my record was something like 12 orgasms in a day (was hard to actually keep count though. need to make a checklist on my girl's booty or something haha :D), and 6 orgasms is a good, regular fuck where time doesn't matter (so: prostitutes are out. those get two cumshots and that's it).

So, question from me to you is: Can you go on fucking in between coming?

No, I can't. So everything you said above that doesn't work. I cum, and it goes soft, can't keep on going. I would trade my "hability" for being able to fuck for 10 minutes straight.
It takes a while until I get it hard again (to fuck for a minute or less lol) and the cumshoot after the second ejaculation is pretty meh, so theres nothing "cool" about any of that, it fucking sucks.

About prostitutes: I don't know, i've never used one. But a mate once paid for a scort (that is a 150€ hot girl, the expensive ones) and he was able to fuck her for an hour. He came after 15 minutes. Managed to fuck her like 3 times, so I guess the "cumshot and get the fuck out" prostitutes are the cheap ones carried with STDS.

I've been sometimes tempted to try out a scort, but it's kinda sad, knowing that I can attract girl as hot for free. The only advantage of using a scort is that I could be able to "train" for an hour or so without worriyng the girl is going to tell about my fast performance to her friends.

Having read up on the frenulum breve problem I've got to say, messing around with the frenulum sounds like a crime. Like some human rights, amnesty international violation. I'd rather have them gimme a frankenstein dick by transplanting some of my own skin to my inner foreskin, below the frenulum, so that it doesn't have that far to stretch. Why isn't that possible?

The method of pulling a thread around the frenulum and let it cut itself slowly is even on the German and English wikipedia sites, so it's got to be well know to doctors.

Man, it's not that fucking bad. Look at the pic, it looks perfect. No annoying tight frenulum anymore, no scars, no bumps, no anything. You could get your dick hard and fuck the living sh*t out of a girl real fast and nonstop, you could never tear your frenulum and the girl would love you forever.

on the german site it says there is a way to treat the condition in some cases by applying a mix of chamomile and Bepanthene creme. The english one talks about treating it topically with steroid creme.

Yes. As I said it can be threated with such products trying to stretch it, but it's really painful and you have to dedicate loads of time. Also, you could end up tearing it anyway during sex. Not worth it. When it comes to premature ejaculation, it may help you as you readed on my main post. I remember reading that apparently some frenulums have a very high nerve density on there which causes an excess of pleasure. Hope i get rid of some sensitivity, besides not needing to bother anymore if im going to tear it next time I have sex.
Also, forget about anal sex if your frenulum is not ready for it. If it's a bit tight chances are you'll tear it.

There are so many people on this forum who have frenulum breve and yet it affects how many men? Isn't it 1 in a hundred??

If you have a frenulum breve, it affects you. There is no percentage. If you are talking about premature ejaculation caused by frenulum breve, yeah, not everyone necessarly has it.
When I say everyone is affected, im talking about not being able to uncover your glands 100%. If you can't, you have a problem, and you have to do something about it.

What's funny is that frenulum breve can be a result of circumcision. Circumcision, for a big part, is done to prevent problems with too tight frenulum and too tight hood. Even though those things affect 1.5% or 2% of all men..

Well im uncut so I don't know. If I ever had a kid (I hope years and years away from now) i'll tell the doctors to circumcise him at birth. Saves you future problems of phimotic rings, phymosis, and all that crap. It also looks better (honestly, im uncut and I have no problem to admit when flacid it looks kinda retarded). It also helps keeping it cleaner. Before you say "but you shouldn't have a problem if you take a shower everyday". Yeah, I do take a shower everyday and clean my dick, but if you wake up, take your shower, go out all day doing things, and at night you meet some girl that wants to fuck, you'll already have your glands a bit nasty, specially in summer when you sweat a lot. Another reason is that apparently it lowers the chances of getting an ETS (not sure about the validity of this research but you can google it up). I guess it aswell lowers the posibility of suffering from premature ejaculation since the gland is not so annoyingly sensitive.

If im not getting a circumsicion done is because im 21 already and I don't want to go throught it now. When you are a newborn you don't have to deal with waking up during the night because of an erection, blood, scars, etc for months until it heals. Im getting the frenulum done and because of functional reasons.
 
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naturesuck, i found priligy worked for me. i suppose every1 is different, u can only find out by testing.
i mean i wudnt use it all d time, just when i wanted to give a gal a good pounding, even if for a extra few mins. if after those times i cum quick and its crap, it will cancel out as she will remember the pounding i gave her. and wont cause so much strain on the relationship. u can cancel out the bad sex if u have good sex at some point.

remember foreplay is soooo important for people like us who cum quick. go down on the girl, tease her, finger her lick it, etc. this will get u used to her, and give yr dick time to chill out b4 getting to trigger happy.
wot i find works is i give the gal foreplay, finger, lick her. then when i knw shes gonna cum i stop, edging on her lol ;) then i stick my cock in her. not only does it make her cum quicker cos shes close to the edge, i will cum quick anyhow. so objective is achieved she cum and i cum. not only did we cum together she thinks its magic lol.
but theres alot of times when u cant go down on her or dnt want to.
 

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naturesuck, i found priligy worked for me. i suppose every1 is different, u can only find out by testing.
i mean i wudnt use it all d time, just when i wanted to give a gal a good pounding, even if for a extra few mins. if after those times i cum quick and its crap, it will cancel out as she will remember the pounding i gave her. and wont cause so much strain on the relationship. u can cancel out the bad sex if u have good sex at some point.

remember foreplay is soooo important for people like us who cum quick. go down on the girl, tease her, finger her lick it, etc. this will get u used to her, and give yr dick time to chill out b4 getting to trigger happy.
wot i find works is i give the gal foreplay, finger, lick her. then when i knw shes gonna cum i stop, edging on her lol ;) then i stick my cock in her. not only does it make her cum quicker cos shes close to the edge, i will cum quick anyhow. so objective is achieved she cum and i cum. not only did we cum together she thinks its magic lol.
but theres alot of times when u cant go down on her or dnt want to.

You can't live off your tongue man. It wouldn't work. Girls want a good, fast, longlasting fuck. The problem with Priligy is that if it worked, I would go from like 1 minute to 4 minutes. 4 minutes is still sh*t and FAR from "good sex", so it wouldn't cancel a sh*t, and I would get poor because those pills are expensive as hell.
 

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naturesucks yr right,gals want it good, fast and for it to last. but theres no miracle cure. wish there was, i wish there was a vaccine for p.e but until some1 invents one, wot else can u do but keep trying. keep a open mind, relax, take yr time. u going to have to experiment. i knw u have exhausted lots of channels and its becoming furstrating. but never give up that goes for anything in life. he who dares wins ;)

be positive even when life is down and u can come through it smiling...
 

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naturesucks yr right,gals want it good, fast and for it to last. but theres no miracle cure. wish there was, i wish there was a vaccine for p.e but until some1 invents one, wot else can u do but keep trying. keep a open mind, relax, take yr time. u going to have to experiment. i knw u have exhausted lots of channels and its becoming furstrating. but never give up that goes for anything in life. he who dares wins ;)

be positive even when life is down and u can come through it smiling...

Yeah, but the point is being able to fuck before you are 30. I hope it doesn't take as long.