fat pad and visceral fat

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So much to challange here I don;t know if I can be bothered .
"Proper " training well as I said injury affected my normal training practise . My experience and from what I have seen over prolonged time in gyms around athletes etc is that muscle loss is not "extreamly hard".

Can we keep on thread

If you can read properly, I stated muscle loss is very hard to achieve if diet is in check. Meaning you are eating enough to maintain.
 

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If you can read properly, I stated muscle loss is very hard to achieve if diet is in check. Meaning you are eating enough to maintain.

Again what i have seen is a number of factors can cause muscle loss like injury .
Anyway I will leave it to members to draw their own conclusions .

On thread my diet has started well . I have of course several goals which can be hard to combine but so far so good .
 

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So the kilo and frac of inch waist measure I gained since last dexa seem to have gone . I think I might have lost off the pad but I can't measure accurate enough to be sure.
 

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Waist has gone down a little more but weight still around 100 kg.
 

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I have reached a plateau in weight loss and will be altering my diet again, cutting carbs ad sugars seem to have workeed best for me in the past. My new diet:

Bowl of oatmeal mixed with protein powder and blueberries or 1/2 banana
protein Shake (post workout)

6 eggs 1/4 cup pf cheese and sriracha
Apple

Vegetables and entree salad w/ lemon juice

Vegetables and entree (stir fry)


basically chicken salads/stir fry
 

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This likely means you're gaining muscle mass but losing fat.

One can hope I am achieving this difficult feat . Of course I can't do weekly dexa's and have to await the test at the end of the diet period.
 

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Hate to join the conversation so late, but I am interested in the fat pad reduction idea.

I have virtually no fat pad, but this is not due to low body fat, but due to core work that causes the beer to ride higher on my body.

I do lots of exercises that target the core area, and therefore help lift the fat off the pad, so to speak. I do planking and other stuff. However, I injured my wrist last summer, and that has limited some of the yoga I can do. As as result the fat that normally sits high on my belly is migrating down to cause me to start having a half inch fat pad. I fear it will get worse.
 

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Hate to join the conversation so late, but I am interested in the fat pad reduction idea.

I have virtually no fat pad, but this is not due to low body fat, but due to core work that causes the beer to ride higher on my body.

I do lots of exercises that target the core area, and therefore help lift the fat off the pad, so to speak. I do planking and other stuff. However, I injured my wrist last summer, and that has limited some of the yoga I can do. As as result the fat that normally sits high on my belly is migrating down to cause me to start having a half inch fat pad. I fear it will get worse.
If you can reverse the fat pad accumulation back when continuing core exercising you have solved the question in this thread. There are a lot of ab exercises to do with injured wrist, even with a cast if it can handle bit of sweating. Crunches, hollow body, leg raises on foam roller etc. where hands don't need to touch the ground. Maybe even planking with elbows contacting the floor instead of push up position too.
 

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My training and diet have not gone as well as I had hoped some setbacks I won't bore you .

Dexa shows I lost 2.5 kg of fat and half a kg of muscle .

On the positive I was trying to target visceral fat and I lost that to a greater degree than overall fat . So that is a health positive . I also appear to have lost fat pad though it's hard to get the necessary accuracy .

So anyway I consider this info supports the premise of the thread .
 

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So I lost circa 10% of my overall bodyfat but over 20% of my visceral fat . So with "only" a 2.5kg (5lb) fat loss I seem to have lowered my pad from circa 1.5 inches to circa an inch . This is a significant loss of pad given the small loss of bodyweight .

I believe this supports that loss of core /visceral fat will also cause loss of pad and that it is possible to target core /visceral fat (and thus pad ).

One of the main methods I used to accomplish this was stress reduction .
https://www.pegym.com/forums/exercise-health-forum/124249-dealing-stress-new-post.html
 

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So I lost circa 10% of my overall bodyfat but over 20% of my visceral fat . So with "only" a 2.5kg (5lb) fat loss I seem to have lowered my pad from circa 1.5 inches to circa an inch . This is a significant loss of pad given the small loss of bodyweight .

I believe this supports that loss of core /visceral fat will also cause loss of pad and that it is possible to target core /visceral fat (and thus pad ).

One of the main methods I used to accomplish this was stress reduction .
https://www.pegym.com/forums/exercise-health-forum/124249-dealing-stress-new-post.html

The visceral fat loss should be very good for your health as well.
 

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The visceral fat loss should be very good for your health as well.

Quite so and health was the reason I targeted it the pad was a side issue of interest to gym members.
 

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I have come to the conclusion that insulin is also implicated so the combination of cortosiol and insulin.
 

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So covid isolation means I regained the weight and more . However I seem to have only regained half the amount of pad .
So I did attempt to continue to control cortisol and insulin. I do think this is further support for the underlying pemise.
 

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My doctor made an interesting point about gut fat. He said it's our body's fight from ancestral times to maintain a fat storage area because those many years ago regular food intake wasn't guaranteed. In other words, our body is fighting like hell to maintain a storage area, and it happens to be our guts. I'm 6'5" and 200 lbs. I work out regularly and am very active, and still I have a little gut and side fat.
 

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My doctor made an interesting point about gut fat. He said it's our body's fight from ancestral times to maintain a fat storage area because those many years ago regular food intake wasn't guaranteed. In other words, our body is fighting like hell to maintain a storage area, and it happens to be our guts. I'm 6'5" and 200 lbs. I work out regularly and am very active, and still I have a little gut and side fat.
Was this thread of any interest?
 

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So covid isolation means I regained the weight and more . However I seem to have only regained half the amount of pad .
So I did attempt to continue to control cortisol and insulin. I do think this is further support for the underlying pemise.

Another point has struck me when looking at overall / core /visceral /pad fat .

Ok so when I started I knew my waist measure ,pad size and fat % . I managed to lose a little weight and lost waist size and fat pad and visceral fat more than the fat loss and bodyfat % reduction would indicate . So I managed to target core/visceral/pad reduction by reducing stress and insulin . However covid meant that I regained the weight and the waist measure but I seem to have only regained half the fat pad . The visceral fat is unknown as I have not done a dexa lately .

I caaaaaaution accuracy with fat pad is difficult.
 

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Interesting discussion here. I know for me losing 20 lbs reduced my fat pad by between .5" and .75". I have had very little sugar this whole time.