Death penalty!

[akaTrex]

Gary Alvord, a Florida inmate who spent more time on death row than any other inmate in the country, died on May 19 of natural causes. Alvord was 66 years old and had been sentenced to death for murder almost 40 years ago, on April 9, 1974.

Give them 10 years to appeal and after that Execute the Sentence! PERIOD!

The Liberals in the U.S. won't allow convicted Male or Female sex offenders to be Castrated for even the most Hideous Sex Offenses.

Do the Crime . . . Then Do the Time!

And if its a Capitol Offense then it should be a Short Time and then Meet your Maker!

 

[Tamora]

Gary Alvord, a Florida inmate who spent more time on death row than any other inmate in the country, died on May 19 of natural causes. Alvord was 66 years old and had been sentenced to death for murder almost 40 years ago, on April 9, 1974.

Give them 10 years to appeal and after that Execute the Sentence! PERIOD!

The Liberals in the U.S. won't allow convicted Male or Female sex offenders to be Castrated for even the most Hideous Sex Offenses.

Do the Crime . . . Then Do the Time!

And if its a Capitol Offense then it should be a Short Time and then Meet your Maker!

In the UK your time left on this earth was short...and I quote...

A delay covering three Sundays between sentencing and execution was all the law stipulated.
"The three Sundays rule dated back to the Victorian era," explains Steve Fielding, a criminologist and author of more than 20 books on executions.
"It was felt to allow enough time for any new evidence to come to light, the convict to make his peace with his or her God and also to not prolong the inevitable wait to die."
An appeal might hold things up for slightly longer - but not by much.

 

[closed224]

Thank you all for the good wishes. I do feel the love and positivity from all of you. This is part of the reason I fight against injustice so fiercely. To allow someone like that to continue in spite of repeated accusations and multiple ruined lives is horrible. He died of natural causes. I have moved on enough not to hate myself or my penis any more. In fact I now love myself and my penis. I am also aware of the need, and responsibility to fight these vile creatures no matter the personal cost. I tryed fighting this one in stages of my life.
The church moved him each time too many reports came in. He always targeted kids where the father had left the home. Where the mothers were on welfare. Even when I was some what strong enough to try stopping this guy I was too weak. The newspapers were owned by Catholics and would not print any of the articles or appeals by kids, of adults. The church never did acknowledge any of us kids. They did put him into retirement hears later, but I know of several children that he messed with even then. Luckily for me he died before I found enough courage, because I would have ended him.
I am struggling very hard to find forgiveness for this and a list of other horrifying life events. At this time I have not been able to forgive even myself for being a victim, let alone my tormentors. I am however attempting on a daily basis to do that. If I manage it I will be a much happier, healthier person. I will never stop fighting the horrors visited on each other. I will always attempt to make reparations when I am the wrong doer.
Thanks for listening.
Thanks for the love.
Wishful wept again.

 

[Praetorian]

In my younger years, I advocated it for serious crimes. However, I reviewed my stance and have been firmly against it for a long time now. If you have them killed, people may get momentary satisfaction but that's about it. Also, they will never re-offend but the wouldn't if they were doing 'life' in the real sense of the word anyway.

I believe that for the most heinous crimes, although you will never have them repay their debt to society, they should be worked 12-14 hours a day. We should squeeze every ounce of productivity out of them for the rest of their natural lives. It will never repay the debt that they owe but why throw away a resource that can be used because of our emotional attachment? The worst of the worst...12-14 hours a day working and the rest in solitary confinement. None of this TV, internet, library bullshit. Let them engage in physical training only as it will prolong their health and life so that they can work more to provide goods for society.

This seems logical. I understand the issues here and don't relegate emotions as irrelevant. If someone did something to my family, my first instinct would be to finish them the first chance that I got. However, I would have more satisfaction once I had settled down in knowing that they will spend every remaining day of their life working their arse off for the community and having no hope of respite.

 

[closed224]

If the system worked well enough to know that would happen I agree. Unfortunately it rarely works very well at all.

 

[Tamora]

There's a case on trial over here in the UK at the moment about some guy called Nicholas Salvador. He was one of those "care in the community" patients who went on to have what seems like a psychotic episode where he thought we were being invaded by aliens. He obtained a fishmongers knife, more like a machete, and beheaded two cats before beheading an 82 year old female neighbour.

He's pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. What about people like this? Prison for life or death?

 

[closed224]

Poor cats, poor lady. I doubt it helped being killed with a knife over being shot. I don't know what is best. Obviously the system already failed him, and he already failed the system. What advantage is his life continuing, and what advantage is there in his death? It is too late either way.

 

[longerlastingnoob]

Edited, reason: because I'm a plonker.

Can't stop laughing.

 

[kickinthemebs]

Anyone watch the show Rectify?

 

[Tamora]

Anyone watch the show Rectify?

???

 

[PurpleOnes]

Well it can be useful thing but there is always risk of putting the wrong person to death penalty since he can be innocent.

Serial killers who have killed many times and got caught already, rapist who have been caught already more than once and cannibals I think should fit in death penalty category.

Goverments are wasting a lot money on people like these giving them life sentances and if they would get free based on their health and age they would most likely still do the same thing.

On a flipside death penalty would most likely be misused by goverment to take out the people they do not want and most likely people with less serious crimes would get death penalties.

Here is a documentary on Black Dolphin russian prison where they have inmates with most serious crimes while they are in 23 hour lockdown , isolated , 24/7 cameras and all in all the security has been bumped to the max while all of them have lfe sentances.

This goes back to my point of spending money on those who most likely would do the same thing again. I guess not all of them would repeat their crimes but many would.

I just do not get the idea of spending resources on those who no matter what are not getting out.

 

[Tamora]

Well it can be useful thing but there is always risk of putting the wrong person to death penalty since he can be innocent.

Serial killers who have killed many times and got caught already, rapist who have been caught already more than once and cannibals I think should fit in death penalty category...

I've seen that documentary and it's a very scary place. If I were in that situation death would seem like the best option.

 

[PurpleOnes]

I've seen that documentary and it's a very scary place. If I were in that situation death would seem like the best option.

The fact that your not getting out at all and there is no escapes happend in that prison I bet some of them have thought about killing themselves but I doubt that is allowed with 24/7 cameras.

I guess those type of prisons are created for them to suffer more since death penalty or electric chair goes over much faster than sitting in high security prison for the rest of your life knowing the fact that you will not escape from there since it is in the middle of nowhere and knowing the fact that most likely you will die there.

 

[closed224]

More horror visited upon each other. Make me hurt knowing it is the truth of what humans do to each other. Torture, or death, bad juju no matter what.

 

[BigRooster]

There have been a few cases in the UK where posthumous pardons have been given to people that have been hanged.

How can you ever be sure of guilt beyond a shadow of a doubt in every case that has been given the death penalty?

Not every case you cannot know. The ones that are known. Justice should be served swiftly. Screw insanity cases. Why should the taxpayers dollar be spent on such a person. I will give you a case.

Mud 1990's a local sheriff deputy is on patrol. On a rural road he pulls a woman over. He rapes her and cuts off one of her breast. Leaves there goes to a bank tells all customers and the few male employees to leave. Rapes some more of the women then kills one.
To this day he is burning up his appeals and crazy pleas.
This is a beyond the shadow of a doubt case. Be rid of him. Stop wasting tax dollars to give him three hots and a cot.

 

[BigRooster]

Wishful Wishful Wishful. I don't know what to say my friend. You are a strong and courageous man to share that horrible chapter of your life with us. Your healing will come. Stay strong buddy.

I am not Catholic but one thing bothers me about priest and molestations. Why is it always young boys? If you need to get off. Take that collar off and go get a hooker. Are better yet the Catholic church needs to let them marry.

Let me add to my stance on if child molesters should be put to death. I favor chemical castration and prison justice.

I believe it happened in England. Some young prisoner was bragging how he molested some kids. Well the other prisoners didn't really care for it. They disemboweled him.

 

[longerlastingnoob]

Wishful Wishful Wishful. I don't know what to say my friend. You are a strong and courageous man to share that horrible chapter of your life with us. Your healing will come. Stay strong buddy.

I am not Catholic but one thing bothers me about priest and molestations. Why is it always young boys? If you need to get off. Take that collar off and go get a hooker. Are better yet the Catholic church needs to let them marry.

Let me add to my stance on if child molesters should be put to death. I favor chemical castration and prison justice.

I believe it happened in England. Some young prisoner was bragging how he molested some kids. Well the other prisoners didn't really care for it. They disemboweled him.

In some cases chemical is too lenient. The film " I spit on your grave" comes to mind.

 

[Tamora]

In some cases chemical is too lenient. The film " I spit on your grave" comes to mind.

Even in my wildest imagination I cannot fathom why an adult man could comprehend instigating such an act on a child. I can't even bear to think about it.

We all hear about these acts on the news every now and again...but we are conditioned by so much news to be detached from reality. It's only when it happens to someone we know that the true impact of these evil crimes hits home.

 

[Tamora]

There's a case on trial over here in the UK at the moment about some guy called Nicholas Salvador. He was one of those "care in the community" patients who went on to have what seems like a psychotic episode where he thought we were being invaded by aliens. He obtained a fishmongers knife, more like a machete, and beheaded two cats before beheading an 82 year old female neighbour.

He's pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. What about people like this? Prison for life or death?

As a follow up, the verdict is out on this guy and he's inevitably been found not guilty of murder on the grounds of insanity and sentenced to a secure hospital indefinitely. I know it's only a play on words but why isn't it called, "guilty of murder on the grounds of insanity"? If I were a relative of the victim I would feel pretty hard done by even the wording of the verdict. After all, he clearly committed murder insane or not.

 

[DickerSchwanz]

Killing someone and murder might have a different meaning? You can kill on accident but murder is pretty much by intention...