insecure about my girth

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growing up i always thought i had a small penis. but i never particularly thought of it as being thin. but according to studies i'm within the average for length (about 5.7 NBPEL and 6.2 BPEL) but below average in girth at 4.5 inches. im surprised how many people here started off with 5+ inches of girth.

it also doesn't help when it's such a common anecdote for women to be like "it's not so much about length, it's more about girth".

so do i have a thin dick? do people gain much girth at all through beginner exercises like stretching and basic jelqing?
 

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Your girth is definitely within the normal range. You should check out this thread: https://www.pegym.com/forums/success-forum/27977-top-performers.html

If you work hard and put enough effort into it, you could end up around 6" to 6.5".

thatd be amazing. not to discredit anyone's hard work but i feel like those claims do lack evidence though.

i've heard the average girth range is something like 4.7 to 5.2. even if im in the normal range, i hate to be lower average.
 

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Well, it's understandable to be skeptical, and probably a good thing too! Even if all of those aren't real, 1" girth gains are very possible. That would put you at 5.5", which is actually above average.
 

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Well, it's understandable to be skeptical, and probably a good thing too! Even if all of those aren't real, 1" girth gains are very possible. That would put you at 5.5", which is actually above average.

for sure. i would be very very happy with 5.5 girth!
 

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So would many others. Just do the conditioning routine (JP's I recommend) and then after the 3 months start formulating my researching an intermediate girth routine taking in account the whole shaft meaning different point where more girth is at or not so you can access on what needs to be done. To tell you the truth, most girth for many are just under five inches with some just over 5.

Persistence is your alley with PE this includes being safe, paying attention to PI, cementing time, rest time, etc... Don't attach a time limit to your starting goal because no one penis is the same even in gains (length or girth). It takes time for the body to adapt at a cellular level and not just temporary expansion of cellular walls.
Allow your body to do its thing not forcing too much on it else you will injury yourself which in that case instead of gaining girth you will only gain pain and a limp penis.
 
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Your girth is definitely within the normal range. You should check out this thread: https://www.pegym.com/forums/success-forum/27977-top-performers.html

If you work hard and put enough effort into it, you could end up around 6" to 6.5".

1.5-2" gain in girth would put you into an elite few. 1" girth is much more obtainable and would put you in the above average category. 5.5" girth will make a women really feel your unit. Once you start getting above 5.5, things can get complicated.
 

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4.5 is nbd man. Do PE and in a year to 2 years. You will be at 5.5, in the meantime get an Asian girlfriend and you will be good!
 

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Yeah, that's true. I didn't mean it to sound like a guarantee, of course everyone reacts differently to certain routines. Really all I meant it wasn't impossible to achieve such goals. But, yeah a 1" girth gain is still very respectable and is probably more than enough!
 

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Really, routine is a smaller part than you think. Most times provided one may be doing PE safely, is has to due with fibers. I am a good example because it took a lot for me to get where I am at for gains in the girth area where it was contrary on length. My tunica layers are heavy fibers which mean more to break down with more resistance like a thick inner-tube (radial at that). So, factors play more of a role in gains.

Likewise it is easier for us who have naturally looser ligament (not so thick) to gain length faster than those who are not loose of not have a high LOT. Factors. Again, so time frame, just do what is necessary one step at a time.
 

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Once you hit 5.25, condoms become difficult. Once you hit 5.5 they become impossible and you must order customized ones from the Internet. Just a word to the wise.
 

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thenight, There's nothing wrong with your size, and I bet you can please a woman just fine if you learn how to.

Many members here who have your same girth, say that their ladies don't have a problem with it and can enjoy it just fine.

As the gentlemen pointed above, you can PE for extra benefit, a bonus if you will ;) but first you have to think positively.

If you read a lot, do your homework researching the PE world, then put your gathered knowledge to good use, be patient and optimistic you can gain in length and girth, however no one can say by when or how much will you gain, as it depends on many factors.

Just a note though: you don't have to be so thick, I recall reading a post on this forum by one of our valued female members saying that the penis needs not be too thick so that they can still squeeze it, meaning that being too thick takes a lot out of their fun, even though they'd feel stretched, they won't enjoy giving it a good squeeze.
 

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If you are fine with your lenght but insecure about your girth then start doing some girth exercises, But do jp90 first just to be sure you are conditioned.
 

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And another thing with thicker penis (me included) is getting it in even when she is fully wet can still be a hassle unless you lube your penis up some first.
 

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I started out, with a 4.8'' MEG and now a bit over half a year later I am closing in on 5.4'' MEG.
But this is all do to hard work, being consistent, and really listening to my body (PI)... Even held a few small breaks from PE to make sure my unit had time to "adapt" to its new size, before hitting it again.. I tell you, its all about wanting it enough to really just do something about it.

But just before you start to go all crazy, make sure you do a starting routine to condition you penis to this type of workout. Eventually do you Jelging at a 50-70 % erection to target girth maximally.

And about MEG size.. Already when you hit 5'' you gonna se a great difference. 5'' is enough to make most women quite happy ;)
 

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Your penis does not adapt to a new size. Rather your penis adapts to the tension and strain from the routine which forces the body to add more fibers after repairing the damage. Another thing, bro, no pun intended because evidently you have a lightly fibered tunica to gain (temporary or not) that much girth in that time frame but not every one is so it may take him a heck of a lot longer to even gain an iota in girth. We don't know.
 

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Your penis does not adapt to a new size. Rather your penis adapts to the tension and strain from the routine which forces the body to add more fibers after repairing the damage. Another thing, bro, no pun intended because evidently you have a lightly fibered tunica to gain (temporary or not) that much girth in that time frame but not every one is so it may take him a heck of a lot longer to even gain an iota in girth. We don't know.

By saying adapt to the size, I mean that after gaining quite good amount of length, and a bit of thickness, my penis started to feel a bit sore. So I took some time off. So you are right it does not "adapt" to the size, it more heal the internal damage caused by the tension and strain that was apply over a longer period.. but call it what you want!

Well, thenewdude... Do I sense some jealousy?? (Just a joke ;) )
And yes, I am well aware about the fact that I have been blessed with being able to gain okay fast.
I even fully stopped my stretching for length, since my original plan was only 7.5'' BPEL, due to my not so large fiance.
Anyway, a lot of my ability to gain fast I personally thanks to my quite healthy and good lifestyle.. but there are probably also some genes in it.
But back to the point. We are here having a newcomer who wants to gain some girth.
Is it not good to tell him how he might be able to make it, if of cause his work-moral, genes, and lifestyle allows it...?
 

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Jealous of what though? There are pro and cons to thin and thicker tunicas. I am very happy to work hard to girth because with it I spend time cementing as I slowly gain having more fibers all together. You have me confused there, bro. I don't ever want one especially one beginning PE to fall into the 'if he gain so much so fast then so can I' state of mind forgetting there are factors. You feel what I am saying?. And also I feel it is important to be on key with what terminology you use for those who may not know sake (beginner's come to mind).

No PUN intended.

And all dude right now needs to keep his mind on is conditioning. One day at a time.
 
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To all you people saying 1" gain in girth is a realistic gain - how long would you expect this to take? I've been PEing for nearly 6 months now with no girth gains to speak of.

I really hope it is possible, because I would be absolutely stoked even with just a 0.5-0.75" gain!

Just a note though: you don't have to be so thick, I recall reading a post on this forum by one of our valued female members saying that the penis needs not be too thick so that they can still squeeze it, meaning that being too thick takes a lot out of their fun, even though they'd feel stretched, they won't enjoy giving it a good squeeze.

I don't know about this - not a single girl I have been with even knew what a kegel was before I told her (or how to squeeze for that matter).

Would sure be nice to find a girl that does kegel though and actually enjoys squeezing my unit.
 

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I have this same problem. I'm 4.75 girth just below the glans, although the glans is a fair bit thicker when fully hard and I'm 5 inch around the middle, still a little insecure about the girth.

Fully confident I will see major girth gains with commitment to this though. You should be the same. Looking forward to having a cock that girls can't fit their hands around!