Can one remain a Newbie?

[BoaConstrictor]

Hello fellow pe'ers. I do apologize if this has been addressed as I am a newb.

I have been doing some reading and it seems there is a lot of talk about newbie gains, PE becoming harder to gain over time, and also the plateau..

I was wondering, from a scientific or logical perspective, could one retain newbieism for the entire duration of the life of ones routines?

Say we PE on schedules like 5/2's, 2/1's, and so forth,....allotting for time to rest and recover. Could we do such for the entire routine itself? Could we have our routine be on say, a 3/1 month schedule, getting small gains with something like JP's routine, stopping for an extended period and jumping back in as new again?

Has anyone tried this and also what is your inputs?

 

[MrsLooking4more]

PE Like with any exercise is conditioning and then results. So just like with any exercise you have newbie gains while you are conditioning but after that gains slow down since your body has conditioned to it, you then have to change the routine as you will do with a body workout routine to get more gains. Same concept different area of the body. Between all the members every conceivable strategy has been tried but what works for one might not work for another. Just got to do it and find what will work for you. good luck and welcome to the Gym!

 

[Looking4more]

Of course everyone would love to continually have newbie gains but it seems the body's natural reaction to the process. Adapting your routine to counteract the body's counteraction is the key but everyone is different and requires different routines. Trial and error is the way it works and it only works individually. There is no one size fits all with PE.
Good luck.

 

[thenewdude]

What do you mean by 3/1 month schedule? Like a third of the month you do PE straight but take the rest off?
Give me a better meaning on that, please. If so, then two thing are not in your best interest. First, not allowing your penis to have adequate time to rest from the strain put upon it during the week which can lead to a low PI and even injuries due to lack of rest. Next, having the long break it not necessarily a bad thing if you have been doing pe for a while (advanced PE'r) where some cementing has already been taking place but it also depends on what you are doing for routine where it would not be best. But for a newbie, it would hinder rather than serve.

 

[TehDBare]

Done correctly and with a little luck you can continue to gain for quite some time. You'll find that many successful PEers didn't stop gaining because they couldn't anymore, it was because the SOs asked them to stop. You will certainly slow down at some point, newbie gains will subside, but if you are persistent and dedicated you should see gains for a long time. There is a diminishing rate of return for effort, but even as it slows down I can't see gains ever completely stopping. There is some credence to the idea of stop/start, a deconditioning break, and it seems to have varying results. You will most likely see big gains initially, and will slow down after the "easy" gains occur, but pressure over time still leads to growth. But look at it this way, even if you get serious gains initially and it slows down to say 1/16" a month you'll still be gaining an inch every 1.25 years. Long term dedication at that point is necessary but still working,

 

[MrsLooking4more]

No 3/1 month is like the JP90 routine 90 days or 3 months on with a 5 day on 2 days off built in to the routine after the 90 days (3 months-ish) and then a month off. Not everyone uses this, you find the process that works for you. My husband was able to hit his goal and cement the gains and he did best with the 3/1 month using the JP90. If you want to check out his routine click on the blue link on his signature or mine.

Remember aso even though there might not be newbie gains later on, you are still having a good EQ (erection quality) and stamina out of the conditioning. Good luck!

 

[BoaConstrictor]

Thanks everyone and I think to agree with Mrs. Looking 4 more, (addressed to thenewdude) I am talking about doing your pe routine for a period of time and then stopping so you can possibly come back as new.

For example:

Doing the
JP 90 day routine (+/- 3 months) then taking a month break.
Then restart..

Theory: making gains within a time period (ie. 3 months) and conditioning. Then having a break (ie. 1 month) so one would have to "recondition" the next time around.

I guess what I'm trying to portray is; if I were to workout for a few months, my muscles, cardio, strength, etc. would probably elevate and be well off. Then if I continued I would probably keep the same strength, endurance, etc. or gain in these.

But...

If I stopped for say, a month, I would probably need to work at building up my strength, endurance, stamina, etc. all over again to get back to where I was, thus needing to "condition" over again or rather, "recondition."

So if the whole concept of Newbie gains is that the penis needs to be conditioned and that once it is adjusted to the routine there needs to be a change in routine to see results. Could it not be perceivable that if one could start fresh everytime, causing the penis to always feel "new to the routine" so to speak, that these gains would be accomplishable every "round" (ie. 3 month routine)?

 

[MrsLooking4more]

I will compare it to doing a round of P90X since I do take a month off after each round. Yes, you kind of have to condition again but not as hard as you did the first time. You will have to be of the routine a long time to get back to a newbie status and you might lose some of the gains if you have not cemented.

 

[BoaConstrictor]

Thank you Mrs. Looking 4 more, I was concerned about the cementing...what is the theory/science on that? Is it generally after one is properly conditioned and been working at it for a certain amount of time. I could see many viable points here. Also...to Mrs. Looking 4 More, did you mention that your husband was doing something similar to what I explained?

 

[thenewdude]

Take a break is not a bad thing just keep your schedule for PE in general on week basis meaning have rest days in the week as well as PE. Keep also in mind that JP's in really meant to condition and teach the basic fundamentals of PE (which really is jelging (girth) and stretching (length)). If you gain newbie gains (which really are temporary outside better EQ), cool. I advise that you stay consistent for about 6 months before taking a month break and maybe just a week or two to start with so your brain and penis stay adapted to PE not discarding as a phase.

 

[BoaConstrictor]

Thank you very much thenewdude. That was definitely the info I was looking for..

 

[BoaConstrictor]

I am still curious to those who have been Pe'ing for long periods of time, like years..how beneficial could it be to take a break of a significant amount of time in between? Say a month at the end of a year cycle?

 

[Looking4more]

I found out purely by accident that taking breaks after extended periods are helpful. I had been doing PE for about a year I believe and my gains were slowing quite a bit. I was doing stealth PE at the time and the Mrs and I were going on vacation so there was no way for me to do it then. I got off track from that and didn't get back to it after vacation and I noticed that I had gained quite a bit during that time off. I think I took a total of about 5-6 weeks off then and it did my mind and body good. I gained length and rested my mind from having to always squeeze in time without the Mrs knowing. Now that I finally told her about it there's no pressure since she encourages me and even likes to help but that's another story.

 

[BoaConstrictor]

Awesome. Great news. Thanks. And congrats on all of your success!

 

[Big Al]

While one can become an expert on the subject matter of PE, if they don't put it into practice then they will remain newbies- in the sense of their actual personal experience. The colloquial term for such an individual is "armchair expert"

 

[Dangler]

Brings to mind "book smart & street stupid".

 

[second lensman]

You could always try redefining the term. Otherwise no methinks.