Blink2000's Progress Journal

[blink2000]

Switched back to 2 days on, 1 day off after recovering from my injury (vac ADS blister). Making great progress since my return to PE a year ago. I'm back to 2.5 hour ADS sessions and 10 minute water pumping sessions, although my first vac ADS session was only 2 hours (I was testing to make sure I didn't overdo it).

Recent gains since my return to PE 1 year ago:

BPFSL Dec 2023 = 6.5"
BPFSL Dec 2024 = 8"
1.5" in BPFSL gains in 1 year

BPEL Dec 2023 = 6.75"
BPEL Dec 2024 = 7.625"
0.875" gains in BPEL in 1 year

I've shifted from having BPFSL usually less than BPEL to the opposite in the last year (BPFSL now exceeds my BPEL). As mentioned before, total gains are 1.625" in BPEL length (from the start of PE), although my BPFSL started around 5.5" (less than my 6" BPEL start), so I've gained about 2.5" BPFSL. I gained the majority of the BPFSL in the last year, primarily with ADS.

In terms of my goal, I'm going for at least 8 x 6, but I'm debating whether I go for 8.5 x 6.5... It depends partly on how my wife responds to it, although she's always been happy with my size, this is more for me than for her.

 

[blink2000]

Took about a 4-5 day break, did 2 days with 2 hours ADS and 2 days of 10 minute pumping & blister seems to have come back. Stopped PE again a couple days ago... I hope I'm not in a dreaded cycle of continually over-doing it & getting injuries.. I'm going to take a big step back & reduce pumping & ADS time when I try again & slowly rebuild my time. I hate doing this beause I worry I'm "slowing down" my PE efforts, but being injured is counter productive. It seems like it's really difficult to heal from a vac ADS blister .. Assumign that's what I have. It's the first I've experienced this & it's unclear what the injury is... The skin is slightly too light in a spot & it heald over a week ago but came back after a couple PE sessions.

I'm going to have to take a longer break than I want to, and given this will decondition me, I'll have to ramp up slowly..

 

[blink2000]

Right now I am trying to gauge how long I need to stop PE to completely heal this blister… If I get injured again right away that will set me back further. If anyone knows how long these take to fully heal that would be helpful.

 

[blink2000]

Did research- looks like I need to take 2 weeks off for a vac blister to heal — so no PE until January 8th.

I am worried about losing recent gains, but getting injured a 3rd time would be incredibly counterproductive, so it’s time for a compulsory decon break.

 

[PEispossible]

It's taken me one month on average of the three blisters I've had. Had a whole bunch that took six weeks. Hung compression during this time from the first day, compression won't effect blisters , if you want some resistance, or to cemented what you've increased

 

[blink2000]

wow, brutal -- 6 weeks is a very long break...

I guess I do have other options:

• good point, i still have my compression hanger, i haven't worn it in over 10 years...
• there's always manual stretching
• i also have a quick extender pro that doesn't fit (making a base for it is a side project I've been putting off).
• some PE'ers just lance the blister / rip off dead skin, apply micro pore tape & keep going

i should be able to PE again tomorrow... that's my 2 week mark.

 

[blink2000]

I'm taking it slow as I finally come back after a long decon break. 45 min & 1 hour ADS sessions, both with thankfully no injury and 2x 5 minute water pumping sessions so far.

One weird thing with PE is to go from feeling like I have a tiny penis, because condoms all seem so huge in the past.. and now, fast forward to the present..

Almost all condoms are way too small... I attempted to wear a condom that's supposed to handle a 7.5" by 1.75" width (I don't get the width stuff) penis, but it wasn't even close to covering my full penis. My base girth especially doesn't work with most condoms now... It's surreal really / feels odd to me, having gone most of my life thinking I have a penis that's too small, to a point where it's undeniable not only that PE works, because suddenly I actually need magnum or Xl size condoms.

 

[newguy42]

As a complete and utter newbie to PE, your log is great. Thank you!
Any updated takes in 2024 on some of the links in your references? I'm getting conflicting views on Jelqs, pumping , clamping etc. I'm looking to minmize oinjury risk and take it slow. I'm just starting with manual and edging for 12 weeks. Thanks again! Good luck on avoiding the injury cycle!

 

[blink2000]

Sure, I don't mind helping someone new to PE. I'll give you some advice in the thread you started: https://thebiohacker.com/forums/threads/brand-new-to-pe-thoughts-on-routine.3263139/#post-3294516

 

[blink2000]

Been back to PE a little while, just starting my 4th week after a month off. Right now I'm just happy to finally be back & not injured.

My routine is just 1-water pumping with kegels and 2-vac ADS, with a focus on length gains (but I welcome girth gains too).

1-Water Pumping (was up to 6 minutes, now going down to just 3 minutes):
-I was very surprised I couldn't ramp up pumping more quickly.
-Week 1: 5 minute sesions
-Week 2: 6 minute sessions. experienced abdominal pain (not penis) -- so strange.. no visible injury
-Week 3: break
-Week 4: 3 minute sessions.

For me, 10 minute sessions are optimal (I've got great girth, flaccid & even EQ/ length gains from it), so working back to that is my goal. What's interesting is 3 minutes of water puming still gives a half decent effect, maybe 50% or 60% of what I get with a 10 minute session. I'll slowly work up to that over several weeks.

2-vac ADS (up to 1.5 hour sessions already):
Week 1: i started with 30 minutes, then 45 minutes then 60 minutes.
Week 2: 75 minute sessions
Week 3: 90 minute sessions
Week 4: still 90 minute sessions for now.

Pumping for EQ & BPEL growth:
I have a theory that pumping past my BPEL is helping with my EQ and BPEL gains (not just girth & flaccid gains). I've heard it's proven it takes more than 10hg to pump past BPEL, but I don't think that's at all safe right after taking a month off (and having had some minor issues with blood vessels in my penis in the past pumping to the max 15hg for 10 minutes). However, I do miss getting 0.5" or more past my BPEL in the pump, so I'm going to work towards that again... I'm only pumping to my BPEL for now. I was 7.5" in the pump as far back as 6 months before I reached that number outside the pump. I am looking forward to when I can get past 8" in the pump... so far I've never pumped past about 7.9".

Goal: 8" x 6"
Length: 80%+ of the way there @ 7.625" BPEL. I gained 0.875" BPEL last year & 0.75" during early 3ish PE years. -- I'm still 0.375" away from my length goal.
Girth: 55% of the way there @ 6.5" base BSEG / 5.5" mid-shaft girth MSEG, but not much over 5" near glans.

Last year was my 4th year of PE. I hope to at least reach my 8" length goals this year (my 5th year of PE). Regardless, my plan is minimum time & effort go into PE, and I'll just stay the course with the current approach as long as the gains keep coming.

 

[PEispossible]

Do you get edema pumping past bpel?

How much time do you keep penis 0.5 of an inch past bpel?

Been at it over five years here, and your length gains Trump mine. Congratulation. I'm inspired

You've written articles on Bibforum and Thunders at least ten years, am I correct?

So only five years pe total time ?

Also you may need to put more time in than minimize until you reach eight inches bpel

 

[blink2000]

Question: Do you get edema pumping past bpel?
--never had edema, could be because i keep sessions short, just 10 minutes

Question: How much time do you keep penis 0.5 of an inch past bpel?
--2-4 minutes... usually takes pretty high pressure to get past BPEL & most of my 10 minute session is over by then
--Right now, I only pump to BPEL, & it may be a few months before I get back to pressure like that (it eventually caused minor injury last time around). Not surprising considering I was pumping past my BPEL for several months in a row.

Question: Been at it over five years here, and your length gains Trump mine. Congratulation. I'm inspired
--Thank you! And stay the course! it's worth it (if I had not stopped I probably would have finished my journey a long time ago). ! I gained more when I changed my appraoch -- I never figured how to get hanging to work for me like it should, and switching to ADS was the right call.

Question: You've written articles on Bibforum and Thunders at least ten years, am I correct?
-Yeah, maybe 10-12 years ago I wrote about 14 articles on this forum, most of which were lost when they moved off pegym.. and a few articles on Thunders, a couple of which are still going strong as threads over there, many year slater.

Question: So only five years pe total time ?
--4 years of PE time for me, just starting my 5th year.

Question: Also you may need to put more time in than minimize until you reach eight inches bpel
--Minimum time is more about only spending 10 minutes pumping and 10 minutes putting my ADS on / taking it off.. so in a sense I only dedicate 20 minutes per day to PE, even if I'm technically spending hours with my ADS on, I'm doing other things the whole time... so it doesn't interfere with family, career, etc.
--The best part of gaining 0.875" BPEL last year was I'm only spending a minimal amount of time on PE (20 minutes per day), so I can sustain this for years if needed until I reach goals...

 

[blink2000]

I'm still only pumping 4 minutes & vac ADS is up to 1.5hrs. I'm a long way from my old routine 10 minutes water pumping & 2.5 hours vac ADS -- but I'm in no rush, I'll get back there slowly.

 

[blink2000]

My pumping sessions are still only at 5 minutes, and my vac ADS sessions are back to 2 hours, but very light pressure. My injury was actually 3-4 months ago; I have just been really cautious about ramping things up. My injury was what appeared to be a vac ADS blister (but it wasn't clearly a blister -- that's just my best guess).

- I find 5 minute pumping sessions far less effective than 10 minute ones, but I am taking it slow to avoid injury.
- Just over a year ago I remember only pumping to 6.5" BPEL early on for months, so it's nice motivation to see I am pumping to 7.95" now while in the tube.
- My BPEL outside the tube hasn't changed much (I went a full 5-6 months with no visible gains & suddenly jumped to 7.625" my current size late last year).

 

[Whatit2ya]

My pumping sessions are still only at 5 minutes, and my vac ADS sessions are back to 2 hours, but very light pressure. My injury was actually 3-4 months ago; I have just been really cautious about ramping things up. My injury was what appeared to be a vac ADS blister (but it wasn't clearly a blister -- that's just my best guess).

- I find 5 minute pumping sessions far less effective than 10 minute ones, but I am taking it slow to avoid injury.
- Just over a year ago I remember only pumping to 6.5" BPEL early on for months, so it's nice motivation to see I am pumping to 7.95" now while in the tube.
- My BPEL outside the tube hasn't changed much (I went a full 5-6 months with no visible gains & suddenly jumped to 7.625" my current size late last year).

Blink curious about your methods I read through your early progress you mentioned you shouldn't add girth work until reaching your length gains. Would Jelqing be included as something you wouldn't do until reaching your length goals? I am current using an extender 40 days in 4-6 hours 5-6 days a week. I am currently 7.5x5 but shooting for 8.25x5.5 wondering if I should hold off on jelqing until I reach my length goal then focus on more girth work. Do you have any advice? My plan was next month to add 200-300 jelqs 3 times a week in addition to my extending work

 

[blink2000]

Blink curious about your methods I read through your early progress you mentioned you shouldn't add girth work until reaching your length gains. Would Jelqing be included as something you wouldn't do until reaching your length goals? I am current using an extender 40 days in 4-6 hours 5-6 days a week. I am currently 7.5x5 but shooting for 8.25x5.5 wondering if I should hold off on jelqing until I reach my length goal then focus on more girth work. Do you have any advice? My plan was next month to add 200-300 jelqs 3 times a week in addition to my extending work

@Whatit2ya well, most people work on length & girth at the same time these days.. THere was a consensus many years ago that everyone questions... some advise to avoid really advanced girth work (like clamping) while working on length.. jelqs are not advanced / they aren't that hard on the body .... they can grow length & girth both, so definitely keep doing them if they are working for you (they seem to work well for most). I could never tell if jelqs were helping...

there's a belief that some girth improvement will help length too / there's some theories around that now (some of this thread started over 10 years ago & people's ideas have shifted since then).

i personally do pumping + vac ads, but my observation is pumping is helping BOTH my length & girth gains (and flaccid gains too).

so jelqs are always ok / i've done them most of my time in PE (for most of the first 3.5 years or so). I stopped about 6 or 7 months ago because of time constraints... i've been trying to keep my invested time short so i have enough time for work/ family -- hope that helps explain ... so in my opinion, keep jelqing.. but watch for positive & negative progress indicators (higher eq, bigger flaccid, bigger BPFSL etc -- those are good signals you are on track.. aside from the most obvious BPEL.. but BPEL isn't reliable.. iv'e gone months with no BPEL gains but big BPFSL gains, so BPEL isn't the best progress progress measure sometimes because you can go periods without BPEL gains..

hope this advice helps

 

[Whatit2ya]

@Whatit2ya well, most people work on length & girth at the same time these days.. THere was a consensus many years ago that everyone questions... some advise to avoid really advanced girth work (like clamping) while working on length.. jelqs are not advanced / they aren't that hard on the body .... they can grow length & girth both, so definitely keep doing them if they are working for you (they seem to work well for most). I could never tell if jelqs were helping...

there's a belief that some girth improvement will help length too / there's some theories around that now (some of this thread started over 10 years ago & people's ideas have shifted since then).

i personally do pumping + vac ads, but my observation is pumping is helping BOTH my length & girth gains (and flaccid gains too).

so jelqs are always ok / i've done them most of my time in PE (for most of the first 3.5 years or so). I stopped about 6 or 7 months ago because of time constraints... i've been trying to keep my invested time short so i have enough time for work/ family -- hope that helps explain ... so in my opinion, keep jelqing.. but watch for positive & negative progress indicators (higher eq, bigger flaccid, bigger BPFSL etc -- those are good signals you are on track.. aside from the most obvious BPEL.. but BPEL isn't reliable.. iv'e gone months with no BPEL gains but big BPFSL gains, so BPEL isn't the best progress progress measure sometimes because you can go periods without BPEL gains..

hope this advice helps

Thanks @blink2000 this was exactly the advice I was looking for. I've already noticed some BPFSL and BPEL gains in the first month and a half. I was planning to add pumping to my routine once I am a little more conditioned I was thinking around the 6 month mark. I was leaning towards air pumping or something with a gauge sticking to 3-7 mmHG but I've noticed a lot of people recommend a bathmate instead is that similar to what you'd suggest as well?

 

[blink2000]

bathmate is "ok" -- it's a durable pump, but i don't like how there's no pressure gauge, but I've become accustomed to it.

i attempted to mod my bathmate with a pressure guage, but instead, ruined my hand pump (so i dont use that part anymore).

go for water pumping, much safer.. it's easier to learn in a bathtub, and although a little tricky, it can be done in a shower... pump in the shower now ... my shower happens to have a tile bench, so i set a cup of hot water on the side & fill my pump from the shower head.. i turn off the shower while i pump, and if i loose too much water, usually the cup is enough.

 

[blink2000]

i noticed my penis was turtling yesterday, with a much smaller flaccid than usual.. i then decided to use my hand as a frame of reference and realized my "turtled" penis is still 4x or 5x what it was pre-PE.

i noticed my flaccid suffered during my month decon break & even recently I'm seeing flaccid improvements, due to pumping. even with reduced pumping sessions i'm getting great results..

current routine:
my routine is 2 hours vac ADS/ 6 minutes pumping..

dull pumping pain:
I haven't increased pumping because right at 6 minutes i feel a slight, dull abdominal pain (nothing to do with my penis), and i've decied it's not worth pushing that.. i only feel it when i pump; it's weird becuase i'm in good shape/ workout regularly & have no physical issues I"m aware of..

my max pump size is still slightly under 8" in tube, but I'm more consistently measuring 7.5" to 7.625" BPEL outside the tube. My last 0.33" jump in size was after 5-6 months of no BPEL gains (but I was making major gains in the tube only).

I've started increasing the tension a bit on my ADS -- I've decided it was probably too light. I'll see if that helps trigger some progress again.

 

[PEispossible]

What do you use for stealth's ads, a leg strap?

Have had difficulty with stealth s ads setup. Hanging use vac hanger 60-90 mins a day, with 2-4 compression hanger sets (40-80 mins). Two is minimum,usually. Consistency is key