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Hey Blink, how much pressure in kg do you apply to your ADS? I'm thinking of doing similar stuff to you, a quick BM pump in the morning, then wearing the ADS (Phallosan) and finally doing some manuals in the evening. Thanks for your help. Cheers
Really good question -- I have no idea, I've tried to use the tension pound measure device that comes with stealthformen (it's really nice) but it adds space between things so it's hard to perfectly replicate the weight. I don't think it's more than 5-8lbs, but I admit I am guessing; I will have to try it some time & report back to you.
I know with something like phallosan you can buy stronger springs & get up to 20lbs & it definitely helps over time, especially if months or years at lighter weights really stops having an impact... (i think people buy them off ali-something or ebay.. my own extender doesn't fit my base -- I'm too thick, so I can't even use it... so I stopped using it (it's too painful on base of penis because it doesn't fit) & have just been sticking with my stealthformen ADS.
I continue to notice major vascularity improvements & I believe pumping is responsible.. my flaccid is far thicker, longer & more veiny than ever before in my life —> and I did PE for years in the past (hang/ jelq/ manual PE during newbie routines). Pumping is what changed, so I give pumping credit.
ADS is working incredibly well for me; BPFSL was 6.5" in Jan 2024 — today I measured it at 8.3" — so 1 year & 4 months for 1.8" BPFSL gains. This is encouraging... even if I have to reach 9" BPFSL before I can reach 8" BPEL, it’s going to happen sooner or later.
My routine is now 8 minutes pumping and 2hrs 15min ADS… I’ve been increasing the tension a bit on the band (with the metal slider) instead of making the ADS session longer. I will eventually go back to increasing the session, but I’m happy that it’s now been 4+ months since the injury with no issues. I’ll slowly ramp up to 10 minutes of pumping; I started at only 3 minutes post injury, and I’ve never done sessions longer than 10 minutes. For me, the effect of 10 minutes is major & I’m happy with it. I also have yet to pump past 7.95" or so; I still can’t get to 8" in the tube (and just estimating; I’ll probably have to reach 8.25" in the tube before I can reach 8" outside the tube).
ADS is working incredibly well for me; BPFSL was 6.5" in Jan 2024 — today I measured it at 8.3" — so 1 year & 4 months for 1.8" BPFSL gains. This is encouraging... even if I have to reach 9" BPFSL before I can reach 8" BPEL, it’s going to happen sooner or later.
My routine is now 8 minutes pumping and 2hrs 15min ADS… I’ve been increasing the tension a bit on the band (with the metal slider) instead of making the ADS session longer. I will eventually go back to increasing the session, but I’m happy that it’s now been 4+ months since the injury with no issues. I’ll slowly ramp up to 10 minutes of pumping; I started at only 3 minutes post injury, and I’ve never done sessions longer than 10 minutes. For me, the effect of 10 minutes is major & I’m happy with it. I also have yet to pump past 7.95" or so; I still can’t get to 8" in the tube (and just estimating; I’ll probably have to reach 8.25" in the tube before I can reach 8" outside the tube).
I was reflecting on what I've done differently this last 1.3 years of PE, trying to think of why in my first year I gained 0.75" then gained nothing really after that (except a LOT more base erect girth -- over 1" from hanging probably). In contrast, why did I gain 0.875" my second time around (after my 10 year decon break). At this point MOST of my gains are from just over the last year of PE.
Contrasted gains:
1-first time (3 years) - newbie routine , then hanging (0.75" BPEL gained)
2-second time (1.3 years) - newbie routine, then vac water pump + ADS (0.875" BPEL gained)
-also gained 0.5" MSEG and 1.5" BSEG (but it's hard to know when, since I've never focused on girth, it just came with the length gains).
What Changed?
1-Rest Days
-The first time, I switched from a 2:1 (2 days on, 1 day off) to a 5:2 (5 days on, 2 days off).
- This second time around, I stayed on 2:1 ... (I never did a 5:2)
- Observation: sometimes when I had a forced week off from PE is when I would suddenly notice gains
2-Force
-The first time: I slowly hanged with more & more weight.. but gains also slowed, then stopped
-This second time around: I did vac ADS attachment & would sometimes increase tension with the band (starting with the totalman vac ADS & later the stealthformen ADS), but never did more than use the standard tension band & at least for me, the vac device always feels like it's going to slip with high tension, so I never use that much tension.
-Observation: using less force I gained more length.
3-Pumping
-The second time around I pumped, it's made a massive vascularity difference in my penis, its greatly increased my EQ, and I can consistently pump at least 0.25" past my BPEL.. In rare situations I can pump 0.5" past my BPEL-- I've now realized it's when I'm close to gains that this happens.
-Observation: massive flaccid improvements, EQ improvement, and BPEL improvements all appear to come from pumping...
My wife notices my package now too.. it's much bigger than it was after my first round of PE all those years ago. It was shocking to hear her say a few times "damn your package is huge" -- it was more striking after I lost weight & got down to around 5% bodyfat (because I'm wearing skinny jeans which apparently make my package far more pronounced).
Contrasted gains:
1-first time (3 years) - newbie routine , then hanging (0.75" BPEL gained)
2-second time (1.3 years) - newbie routine, then vac water pump + ADS (0.875" BPEL gained)
-also gained 0.5" MSEG and 1.5" BSEG (but it's hard to know when, since I've never focused on girth, it just came with the length gains).
What Changed?
1-Rest Days
-The first time, I switched from a 2:1 (2 days on, 1 day off) to a 5:2 (5 days on, 2 days off).
- This second time around, I stayed on 2:1 ... (I never did a 5:2)
- Observation: sometimes when I had a forced week off from PE is when I would suddenly notice gains
2-Force
-The first time: I slowly hanged with more & more weight.. but gains also slowed, then stopped
-This second time around: I did vac ADS attachment & would sometimes increase tension with the band (starting with the totalman vac ADS & later the stealthformen ADS), but never did more than use the standard tension band & at least for me, the vac device always feels like it's going to slip with high tension, so I never use that much tension.
-Observation: using less force I gained more length.
3-Pumping
-The second time around I pumped, it's made a massive vascularity difference in my penis, its greatly increased my EQ, and I can consistently pump at least 0.25" past my BPEL.. In rare situations I can pump 0.5" past my BPEL-- I've now realized it's when I'm close to gains that this happens.
-Observation: massive flaccid improvements, EQ improvement, and BPEL improvements all appear to come from pumping...
My wife notices my package now too.. it's much bigger than it was after my first round of PE all those years ago. It was shocking to hear her say a few times "damn your package is huge" -- it was more striking after I lost weight & got down to around 5% bodyfat (because I'm wearing skinny jeans which apparently make my package far more pronounced).
I also gained 1.8" BPFSL with vac ADS (low force) going from 6.5" to 8.3" during my last 1.3 years of PE.
During my first years of PE, my BPFSL always lagged behind BPEL, going from 5.5" to 6.5" (so only 1" gained - and I was hanging with a lot of weight).
I think it's safe to say vac ADS has been vastly more effective for me in terms of BPFSL gains & I've got far more unrealized gains now too...
One thought: I haven't been doing jelqs (due to lack of time commitment) -- I wonder if that would help "convert" some of my unrealized gains.
During my first years of PE, my BPFSL always lagged behind BPEL, going from 5.5" to 6.5" (so only 1" gained - and I was hanging with a lot of weight).
I think it's safe to say vac ADS has been vastly more effective for me in terms of BPFSL gains & I've got far more unrealized gains now too...
One thought: I haven't been doing jelqs (due to lack of time commitment) -- I wonder if that would help "convert" some of my unrealized gains.
Question for you, I have the ADS too but have yet to use it (they threw it in when I bought the vac hanger). As an ADS, how does it feel when you’re on the go?
Usually I avoid being on-the-go too much... if I'm sitting still in a car or truck, no big deal, BUT if I have to walk around? Things get loose/ pop out, so at least for me that's a major limitation. For me the ADS works best if I'm mostly sitting still... I can do some walking but if I'm moving around too fast, things can get loose then I have to add pressure again/ it can be a pain.
Still working to reach 8" x 6" … I’m sometimes hitting 8" BPEL inside the bathmate now, but it’s not common, I have too many days where I am only reaching 7.75" BPEL In the bathmate.
My routine is 10 minutes bathmate + 100 kegels (warm up), then 2.5 hours ADS.
I’m slowly using more ADS tension now, but holding time constant.
I need to do girth research — I wonder if there’s a "set it and forget it" type girth routine…
My BPFSL is still around 8.4"-- the constant progress in that area is motivating me; my BPEL has no dramatic changes, but I know it's going to happen sooner or later when BPFSL grows enough. BPEL is still around 7.625".
My routine is 10 minutes bathmate + 100 kegels (warm up), then 2.5 hours ADS.
I’m slowly using more ADS tension now, but holding time constant.
I need to do girth research — I wonder if there’s a "set it and forget it" type girth routine…
My BPFSL is still around 8.4"-- the constant progress in that area is motivating me; my BPEL has no dramatic changes, but I know it's going to happen sooner or later when BPFSL grows enough. BPEL is still around 7.625".
it's interesting.. my flaccid is much thicker & more veiny than ever before.. i attribute most of this to pumping, but the 2.5 hours of ADS is probably helping too..
growth was too slow/ stalled for a while, so a couple weeks ago I increased tension on my ADS.. i'll try this new tension level for a few months & see what happens.. i'm only seeing positive indicators, so i think i am on track.. the last 1/3" of the way to 8" BPEL seems to be going by slow, but history has shown me i have big jumps in gains, so i'll keep growing my BPFSL & see what happens..
I have grown BPFSL 1.9" since my return to PE at the start of 2024...
i've been researching to see if there's easy girth gain approaches, but from what i am seeing most girth routines don't actually take that much time.. i need to decide when to focus on girth.. my girth gains are lagging behind length gains... i joined PE during an era where everyone believed length before girth.. even though many now believe that to be a myth, it has still influenced me...
also, my current size does feel "big" but i am starting to understand the guys who do PE & keep wanting more... my bathmate measures up to 8.5" BPEL in the tube.. a part of me thinks I don't want to stop until I reach that.. and regarding girth, i've never even worked on it directly but I grew from 0.488" to 5.5" mid-shaft and 0.488" to 6..5" base girth (both erect measures), purely from hanging/ ADS work.. so at least that means less work to do when I do work on my girth.. at first I thought the gains were too much (in my base girth) but the wife definitely likes it, so might as well keep going...
growth was too slow/ stalled for a while, so a couple weeks ago I increased tension on my ADS.. i'll try this new tension level for a few months & see what happens.. i'm only seeing positive indicators, so i think i am on track.. the last 1/3" of the way to 8" BPEL seems to be going by slow, but history has shown me i have big jumps in gains, so i'll keep growing my BPFSL & see what happens..
I have grown BPFSL 1.9" since my return to PE at the start of 2024...
i've been researching to see if there's easy girth gain approaches, but from what i am seeing most girth routines don't actually take that much time.. i need to decide when to focus on girth.. my girth gains are lagging behind length gains... i joined PE during an era where everyone believed length before girth.. even though many now believe that to be a myth, it has still influenced me...
also, my current size does feel "big" but i am starting to understand the guys who do PE & keep wanting more... my bathmate measures up to 8.5" BPEL in the tube.. a part of me thinks I don't want to stop until I reach that.. and regarding girth, i've never even worked on it directly but I grew from 0.488" to 5.5" mid-shaft and 0.488" to 6..5" base girth (both erect measures), purely from hanging/ ADS work.. so at least that means less work to do when I do work on my girth.. at first I thought the gains were too much (in my base girth) but the wife definitely likes it, so might as well keep going...
I looked back at some old data tracking from many, many years ago... Pre-PE my BPFL was 3" when I started PE, my BPFL is now 6"+ many years later.
I've doubled my flaccid length & the girth is far great too (this more than doubles my flaccid volume & the size of my package). Just today the wife was noticing my package sticking out & had to make a comment on it....
Pre-PE I was a "grower" and I used to get acorn penis in locker rooms sometimes after workout which was dreadfully embarrassing...
At least for me, PE has been a confidence boost because it's just one less thing to worry about/ I actually think about my penis size LESS than I used to, because post-PE, I"m just not worried about it. Yes, I have goals, but I have faith I will get there, but even goals aside, I've done something that I didn't think was possible.
Something worth mention though, is flaccid gains have come quite slowly; it's taken years for the shift to happen (from grower to shower).
I've doubled my flaccid length & the girth is far great too (this more than doubles my flaccid volume & the size of my package). Just today the wife was noticing my package sticking out & had to make a comment on it....
Pre-PE I was a "grower" and I used to get acorn penis in locker rooms sometimes after workout which was dreadfully embarrassing...
At least for me, PE has been a confidence boost because it's just one less thing to worry about/ I actually think about my penis size LESS than I used to, because post-PE, I"m just not worried about it. Yes, I have goals, but I have faith I will get there, but even goals aside, I've done something that I didn't think was possible.
Something worth mention though, is flaccid gains have come quite slowly; it's taken years for the shift to happen (from grower to shower).
I have now reached 7.75" BPEL; my BPFSL is still around 8.4".
My 8" BPEL goal seems quite modest now (only 0.25" left to go.. )
I'm still at 2.5 hours ADS. Gains were going really slow so i increased tension a bit about 3 months ago, so it definitely helped. However, I'm starting to wonder if I need more time
The only reason I haven't gone to 3 hours already is I don't like taking my device off to go pee, and the longer my sessions go, the more frequently I have to take things off/ put them back on (it kind of goes against my whole "set it & forget it" preference)...
My girth has not changed; I checked today; I'm still 5.5" MSEG & 6.5" BSEG.
I will probably start with soft-clamping, but I'm relucant to start working on girth -- I started PE during the era where everyone said length before girth, so I've never worked on girth other than jelqs and pumping (and hanging did quite a bit for my base girth, but that was all indirect).
Total PE gains: 1.75" BPEL, 0.62 MSEG and 1.5" BSEG.
My 8" BPEL goal seems quite modest now (only 0.25" left to go.. )
I'm still at 2.5 hours ADS. Gains were going really slow so i increased tension a bit about 3 months ago, so it definitely helped. However, I'm starting to wonder if I need more time
The only reason I haven't gone to 3 hours already is I don't like taking my device off to go pee, and the longer my sessions go, the more frequently I have to take things off/ put them back on (it kind of goes against my whole "set it & forget it" preference)...
My girth has not changed; I checked today; I'm still 5.5" MSEG & 6.5" BSEG.
I will probably start with soft-clamping, but I'm relucant to start working on girth -- I started PE during the era where everyone said length before girth, so I've never worked on girth other than jelqs and pumping (and hanging did quite a bit for my base girth, but that was all indirect).
Total PE gains: 1.75" BPEL, 0.62 MSEG and 1.5" BSEG.
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doing girth before length for a short time peroid, 5-10 minutes, breaks the tunica down more, so the length work is more effective. It does not give girth gains per say, more focused on length. This is something I am expirementing with or trying
I observed that some guys reported working on girth may have helped length, so it’s possible that could work.
Recent Gains:
Yesterday I reached 8.5" BPFSL -- that's 3" BPFSL gains (I started PE at 5.5" BPFSL).
-I've gotten good results from a modest increase in vac ADS tension in the last 3 months:
-I gained 0.2" BPFSL (0.06" per month which is on the slow side, but gains are always welcome)
-I gained 0.125" BPEL
PE Flaccid Growth Improvements
-I have a hypothesis worth testing: I used to be a grower, not a shower, and I suspect most growers have a BPFSL shorter than their BPEL. I’ll be watching to see if anecdotal evidence backs this up.
-In my younger years, my flaccid could shrink to just 1.25" (true “acorn” mode), and my first recorded flaccid on Thunders was 3" under ideal conditions, with about 4" girth.
-Now, I’m more of a shower, usually around 6"x5" flaccid. That’s probably a bit inflated from consistent pumping, and I haven’t fully “cemented” it yet.
-Pumping and other PE work have added 4.75" to my shortest flaccid length — a 380% increase compared to my 1.25" starting point. Even against my best early measurement of 3", that’s still a 200% gain in flaccid length.
How I gained 2" BPFSL in 1.6 years:
-I was reguarly adding more time last year, slowly growing time under tension from 20 minutes eventually to 2.5 hours
-I was doing 2 days on, 1 day off
-I stalled for a few months partly because I stopped increasing time under tension (and my strap was always using the minimum tension)
Time to adapt further:
-My gains stalled; a modest increase in strap tension has sparked gains again.
-However, growth is quite slow; I'm going to experiment with 3 days on, 1 day off
-Shifting from 2/3 days spent on PE to 3/4 days is a modest 12.5% increase in time under tension..
-Shockingly, I'm really feeling tissue fatigue today (my 3rd day in a row of PE).
Yesterday I reached 8.5" BPFSL -- that's 3" BPFSL gains (I started PE at 5.5" BPFSL).
-I've gotten good results from a modest increase in vac ADS tension in the last 3 months:
-I gained 0.2" BPFSL (0.06" per month which is on the slow side, but gains are always welcome)
-I gained 0.125" BPEL
PE Flaccid Growth Improvements
-I have a hypothesis worth testing: I used to be a grower, not a shower, and I suspect most growers have a BPFSL shorter than their BPEL. I’ll be watching to see if anecdotal evidence backs this up.
-In my younger years, my flaccid could shrink to just 1.25" (true “acorn” mode), and my first recorded flaccid on Thunders was 3" under ideal conditions, with about 4" girth.
-Now, I’m more of a shower, usually around 6"x5" flaccid. That’s probably a bit inflated from consistent pumping, and I haven’t fully “cemented” it yet.
-Pumping and other PE work have added 4.75" to my shortest flaccid length — a 380% increase compared to my 1.25" starting point. Even against my best early measurement of 3", that’s still a 200% gain in flaccid length.
How I gained 2" BPFSL in 1.6 years:
-I was reguarly adding more time last year, slowly growing time under tension from 20 minutes eventually to 2.5 hours
-I was doing 2 days on, 1 day off
-I stalled for a few months partly because I stopped increasing time under tension (and my strap was always using the minimum tension)
Time to adapt further:
-My gains stalled; a modest increase in strap tension has sparked gains again.
-However, growth is quite slow; I'm going to experiment with 3 days on, 1 day off
-Shifting from 2/3 days spent on PE to 3/4 days is a modest 12.5% increase in time under tension..
-Shockingly, I'm really feeling tissue fatigue today (my 3rd day in a row of PE).
Something worth noting; my 2" BPFSL gains and 1" BPEL gains in the last 1.6 years correlate with
1-getting into extremely good physical shape
2-full body red light therapy (about an hour a day/ sometimes a lot more)
3-and for the last 2.5 weeks — peptides
I believe 3 days on 1 day off will work fine for me, because my observation is I am healing quite a bit faster with peptides. I also recorded a length gain very recently (and it included a couple weeks of peptides)
This isn’t really chemical PE (the peptides are more about workout recovery/ vascular repair/ and for better sleep); but it may be impacting results.
This might partly explain why I am gaining so much more recently vs my original PE work 17 years ago (others have reported more dramatic gains while doing red light therapy -- I am not the first).
1-getting into extremely good physical shape
2-full body red light therapy (about an hour a day/ sometimes a lot more)
3-and for the last 2.5 weeks — peptides
I believe 3 days on 1 day off will work fine for me, because my observation is I am healing quite a bit faster with peptides. I also recorded a length gain very recently (and it included a couple weeks of peptides)
This isn’t really chemical PE (the peptides are more about workout recovery/ vascular repair/ and for better sleep); but it may be impacting results.
This might partly explain why I am gaining so much more recently vs my original PE work 17 years ago (others have reported more dramatic gains while doing red light therapy -- I am not the first).
I've only gained 0.4" BPSFL since May (four months at 0.05" per month), and my pace feels glacial. Part of the issue was I couldn't get enough tension on my vac ADS (I've slowly needed more & more traction to create reasonable strain, but the device was slipping when I tried to use significant weight).
I COULD switch to my Bib hanger (its a great device & I used it for years in the past) but I prefer Vac ADS for comfort & prefer "set it & forget it".
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How I Hacked my Vac ADS to handle more tension:
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Summary: I doubled-up on tubes with a thinner, ultra tight one underneath & now I can use far more tension on the strap without device slippage. I also arranged parts to fit perfectly together, so the only "lube" I need is water & this prevents the vac valve from getting clogged (which ruins the vacuum seal).
1-StealthForMen Vac ADS (you could do this with any brand probably though)
2-Sabreskin: size 30 (the bigger reddish brown tube)
3-Sabreskin: size 28 (the smaller brown tube -- cut to fit behind glans cap under the bigger tube)
4-Glans Cap: Size 32 (clear silicon tubing - cut shorter than usual by about 3/16")
5-Chamber: Size 32 - the clear hard-plastic shell
6-Vac Seal - goes on top of sabreskin & allows the chamber to seal with vacuum pressure.
Notice how each part is progressively a different size? My parts kept breaking when I attempted to use a 32 sabresin and 32 glans cap/ chamber; at least in my experience its also impossible to get things to connect without cocunut oil or some kind of lube if everything is the same size... Then the coconut oil clogs the vacum valve & the chamber is potentially ruined (sometimes cleaning doesn't seem to work).
-I've now gone maybe 6 months with this device where parts aren't CONSTANTLY breaking (I broke several glans caps & vac seals; those break fast if sizing is wrong); and sometimes the chambers have stopped working (probably due to being clogged with coconut oil).
-I ONLY use a small amount WATER now to get the device on (and it works well enough as a "lube" without clogging anything, but it's only possible with parts that fit perfectly together).
Heat: Although I warm up with 10 minutes of pumping, I would eventually cool off during my 2.5 hour vac ADS sessions, so I use an FIR heating pad... I go by "feel" where I get it as warm as I can without being uncomfortable. Idea here is maximize malleability of my tissues (this is well known based on published medical research and its why good physical therapists always use heat before stretching tendons/ tissues).
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Calculating Strain:
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Medical research shows that 4% to 5% is perfect levels of "strain" to maximize tissue growth, and that 8% or higher results in damage & injuries. Anecdotal evidence among PE'ers shows 2% to 4% strain works well for most guys. Going past 5% strain (with tissue in general) tends to result in a negative reaction where the tissues resist growth (and in PE that means we make tissues stronger & fail to grow).
Formula:
Target Length=Starting Length × (1+Strain %)
Starting Length: I measure BPFSL right before I put on my vac ADS device (8.5" currently)
Target Length: Use the formula & stay ideally within the safe 2% to 4% range.
2% strain:
8.50×1.02 = 8.67″
4% strain:
8.50×1.04 = 8.84″
5% strain:
8.50×1.05= 8.93″
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Results: 2-4% Strain is possible now with the added tension
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Doubling up on sabre-skin tubes with a thinner inner tube is providing far better traction for me (without discomfort) and the device no longer slips with higher tension.
Note: in my case, my glans cap was too long, and I had to slice that shorter too (to prevent it from pinching skin against the inner sabreskin tube)
My BPFSL is growing faster again and I'm able to hit 4% strain for the first time in a very long time, because my device can support far more tension. I estimate that I'm using 7-10lbs of force now. I recently gained 0.125" after stalling for months, and it happened a few months after increasing my vac ADS force.
I COULD switch to my Bib hanger (its a great device & I used it for years in the past) but I prefer Vac ADS for comfort & prefer "set it & forget it".
-------------------------------------------------------
How I Hacked my Vac ADS to handle more tension:
-------------------------------------------------------
Summary: I doubled-up on tubes with a thinner, ultra tight one underneath & now I can use far more tension on the strap without device slippage. I also arranged parts to fit perfectly together, so the only "lube" I need is water & this prevents the vac valve from getting clogged (which ruins the vacuum seal).
1-StealthForMen Vac ADS (you could do this with any brand probably though)
2-Sabreskin: size 30 (the bigger reddish brown tube)
3-Sabreskin: size 28 (the smaller brown tube -- cut to fit behind glans cap under the bigger tube)
4-Glans Cap: Size 32 (clear silicon tubing - cut shorter than usual by about 3/16")
5-Chamber: Size 32 - the clear hard-plastic shell
6-Vac Seal - goes on top of sabreskin & allows the chamber to seal with vacuum pressure.
Notice how each part is progressively a different size? My parts kept breaking when I attempted to use a 32 sabresin and 32 glans cap/ chamber; at least in my experience its also impossible to get things to connect without cocunut oil or some kind of lube if everything is the same size... Then the coconut oil clogs the vacum valve & the chamber is potentially ruined (sometimes cleaning doesn't seem to work).
-I've now gone maybe 6 months with this device where parts aren't CONSTANTLY breaking (I broke several glans caps & vac seals; those break fast if sizing is wrong); and sometimes the chambers have stopped working (probably due to being clogged with coconut oil).
-I ONLY use a small amount WATER now to get the device on (and it works well enough as a "lube" without clogging anything, but it's only possible with parts that fit perfectly together).
Heat: Although I warm up with 10 minutes of pumping, I would eventually cool off during my 2.5 hour vac ADS sessions, so I use an FIR heating pad... I go by "feel" where I get it as warm as I can without being uncomfortable. Idea here is maximize malleability of my tissues (this is well known based on published medical research and its why good physical therapists always use heat before stretching tendons/ tissues).
-------------------------------------------------------
Calculating Strain:
-------------------------------------------------------
Medical research shows that 4% to 5% is perfect levels of "strain" to maximize tissue growth, and that 8% or higher results in damage & injuries. Anecdotal evidence among PE'ers shows 2% to 4% strain works well for most guys. Going past 5% strain (with tissue in general) tends to result in a negative reaction where the tissues resist growth (and in PE that means we make tissues stronger & fail to grow).
Formula:
Target Length=Starting Length × (1+Strain %)
Starting Length: I measure BPFSL right before I put on my vac ADS device (8.5" currently)
Target Length: Use the formula & stay ideally within the safe 2% to 4% range.
2% strain:
8.50×1.02 = 8.67″
4% strain:
8.50×1.04 = 8.84″
5% strain:
8.50×1.05= 8.93″
-------------------------------------------------------
Results: 2-4% Strain is possible now with the added tension
-------------------------------------------------------
Doubling up on sabre-skin tubes with a thinner inner tube is providing far better traction for me (without discomfort) and the device no longer slips with higher tension.
Note: in my case, my glans cap was too long, and I had to slice that shorter too (to prevent it from pinching skin against the inner sabreskin tube)
My BPFSL is growing faster again and I'm able to hit 4% strain for the first time in a very long time, because my device can support far more tension. I estimate that I'm using 7-10lbs of force now. I recently gained 0.125" after stalling for months, and it happened a few months after increasing my vac ADS force.
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I've never gotten ads correctly but this is a thoughtful guide to do so. Thank you for posting this with pictures. I may try it sometime.
Currently using vac hanger at 11, 8, lbs mostly. Bib hanger I use five lbs And can leave it there an hour, with the lighter weight and not that tightened clamps , which when I did 31 lbs was required but that didn't work for length at the time so am at about 15-20 hrs a week.
Got some silicon sleeves on eBay mod and I think his name is on thunders recommended. They used to tear fast with heavier weight but not with this lighter weight. Thank you for recommending lighter weight
I try and get in three hours a day and if more is gotten, great
Currently using vac hanger at 11, 8, lbs mostly. Bib hanger I use five lbs And can leave it there an hour, with the lighter weight and not that tightened clamps , which when I did 31 lbs was required but that didn't work for length at the time so am at about 15-20 hrs a week.
Got some silicon sleeves on eBay mod and I think his name is on thunders recommended. They used to tear fast with heavier weight but not with this lighter weight. Thank you for recommending lighter weight
I try and get in three hours a day and if more is gotten, great
Wow.. thats the MOST weight I have ever heard of anyone using with PE!
Here's the thing; regardless of weight -- you will need 2% to 4% strain (5%+ is risky); at least in my case, really low strain stopped working after about a year (I did manage to gain 1.5" BPFSL doing that approach). During the last 7 months I've only gained 0.5" BPFSL (that includes increasing tension a few months ago).
