Venous Leak Symptoms And Cures

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8 years of research? And where has the gotten you? I did 13 years of research. Sitting there and making assumptions and self diagnosing doesn’t help anyone. Action is what is required
 

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CD you told me that if interfered with anything that you had to say I would be blocked so I honestly don't know why you are even messaging me. Am I allowed to disagree with you without being blocked?
 

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Did you interfere with me tho? This is me replying to you
 

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I could get into medical diagnoses but I won't, because I think that would just help legitimize what I view as a pathological over focus on doctors for this problem.

Instead, I'll stick with my own self diagnoses, which is: before jelqing, my penis worked. After jelqing, it didn't.

If you or anyone else cant grasp that then we simply aren't on the same page, and as far as I'm concerned this is pretty simple and should never have become a debate.
 

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Self diagnosis is what makes people crazy... trust me lol
 

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You said the hans protocol was working out well for you, so I'd just stick with that instead of trying to pick a fight with me. You told me I'd be blocked if I interfered with anything you had to say (which I thought was strange considering you aren't an admin or mod, but that's another story) so I haven't messaged you at all. Now you interfered with what I had to say in a discussion with another person, but I still gave you an answer to your question. It's clear we dont agree, so why not just drop it.
 

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I’m saying how can you self diagnose something you said you permanently damaged yourself jelqing... all you do is go around and ask people if certain stuff works? If you believe your permanently damaged then there’s no way out, I on the other hand have taken action and will do everything I can to cure myself and others
 

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All (I include myself) take a step back and take the personal nastiness out of everything.

This has really shocked me.
Regenerator, you've had this for 8 years after jelqing?
Cd7777, you've had this for 13 years?

When did you lads last have a good hard erection, through any means?

Because atrophy is a real thing, it works on the use it or lose it principle. You can get it back with the use of vacuum pumps.

This is so sad, this has shocked me so much, that my heart really goes out to you both. I was genuinely pissed off the other day but realising how long you've gone through this has really hit home how petty and pointless fighting is. The annoyance has been completely taken out of me after reading that you've both endured this long.

You can't go on like this. Visit the Franktalk forum for help. It's an older population which is restricted to ED only.

You can't go on like this lads, listen to yourselves. It's just not right.
There are ways ahead, hell, I had sex yesterday morning using rings, it's not ideal but it works. VED's, rings even implants work. It's better than wasting you one life going nowhere.
 

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Some sadly will do nothing but whine, blame someone or something else and do nothing to get get better because they don't want to get better. It gives them an excuse for not having to deal with life.
 

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An implant is the last thing I would do. Your basically removing any tissue and any chance of ever having a natural erection again, plus the surgery comes with infections and loads of problems . No thanks. I’d rather continue doing the hans protocol and heal that way. Regenerator can keep asking... hey did this work? Or ... hey how long did that take? It’s pointless. Stop assuming your self diagnosis of permanent damage from jelqing, read the hans protocol and go do it.
 

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Most people dealing with these injuries don’t realize that they probably clenched their pelvic floors during masturbarion and/or sex when they were younger, which is already causing minor problems. (Minor ed, frequent urination, low urine stream, etc) When their clenching and then try doing penis exercises whether it be jelqing or extending... they’re setting their pelvic floors up for complete failure. It’s like playing tug of war with your penis. The pelvic floor goes out of whack, the body realizes this and then it is in a constant state of tension because of the damage that has been done. This leads to the hard flaccid , cold numb shriveled penis.. and it makes people believe they have a permanent issue such as venous leak, torn fascia or whatever the crazy sh*t is called. This leads to the mental problems, which causes depression laziness no libido blah blah.
 

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CD since you are insisting on communicating with me again am I allowed to post on your thread? It's like I said you keep repeating the same stuff across multiple threads, as if you are trying to convince yourself. What's the point of just repeating things over and over? This may be your way of dealing with your issues, but be careful about projecting them onto everyone else. It would make sense at this point to try to contain it to your thread and keep your focus, and if you really want to talk to me I can try to help you on your thread.
 

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Sorry but my theories make sense more than yours. You yanked on your dick a couple times and now you have permanent damage. Come on man, get real here. If your help is to get an implant... well then why don’t you go ahead and get one then. I’m sticking with my theory and have been working on it, I’ll let u know if it works
 

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Like I said, before jelqing, my penis worked, after jelqing it didn't. It's not much of a theory. I personally wouldn't get an implant either, I would try supplements, injections, or maybe even very light PE. For me worst case scenario I'd use injections. I've seen reports where they even improved EQ. Personally I don't like the idea of using a cockring.

For healing an injury, I've tried things and seen results, and I've tried other things and not seen results. I want to be very careful about posting about anything that could help until I were certain, or I would be very upfront about the extent or limits of the results. I don't think spreading false hope like wildfire does much except trivializes injuries and downplays the risks, keeps guys paralyzed with delusion and denial, and hinders real progress. You didn't say I had permission to post on your thread, so I'll assume I'm not allowed, and so there isn't much reason for us to go on. We don't agree, like I said a few posts ago.
 

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Why do you keep pushing off the fact that you could have fucked up your pelvic floor? You keep babbling about injuries to your penis .
 

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'Babbling' means actually getting into detail, which is something that you seem to avoid. If you want to talk about the pelvic floor that badly we can do it on your thread, otherwise we'll have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.
 

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Now Now children, play nicely. This thread doesn't need to turn into an argument. If things start to get messy I might have to slap some wrists.
 

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And ur going into detail how? By saying your permanently injured from jelqing? Makes a lot of sense
 

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95% percent of the post was about the treatments that I personally prefer for ED, and the way that I think we should approach making claims about the odds of recovery, which can be detailed topics, unlike the fact that my penis worked before jelqing, and didn't work after. You blatantly attempted to mischaracterize it as babbling about penile injuries for some reason.

Hans did step in here and tell us to wind things down, and I've said a few times that we don't agree and wanted to drop it. Only a short while ago you told me I'd be blocked for interfering with what you had to say, and at this point we've both made our opinions clear. I don't see any reason to keep arguing.
 

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I don't want to mute people, but my post was a nice way of saying that arguing over the internet is a waste of time, and doesn't help the forum, nor you two's situation. Please remember part of our disclaimer:
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This thread has good information and does not need to be bombarded with arguments. I am telling both of you now to cool it.
You both need to listen to your doctors, they know more about human physiology than anyone on this site.
If you are not satisfied with what one says, see another, or try a different type of therapy.

Cd7777- PF physio therapy can possibly help, but I think that a mental health professional would suffice for a lot of your problems, with all due respect. IMO, you need to get off this site NOW for your own health, all I see here is PMs and continuous nonsense of you running around in circles and talking about your situation. This is why you still have hard flaccid, I was the same way. You need to get off this site immediately, and put your mind to rest. I don't think you have a serious issue, based off of your experience with morning wood recently. Get off this site, go out, talk to people, take up more hobbies, work out, travel, be on your purpose, just do something to get your mind off of this. It's eating away at you and your actions are perpetuating it and worst of all, I don't think you are even fully aware of it.
 
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