Theory on Soft Glans

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Dr... very interesting! Appreciate you posting about this, I got a similar problem.

Did aggressive erect jelq/masturbation 2 years ago; thought I had healed up. Last year I realized my glans weren't always filling up, even from morning wood.

I have a prominent superficial dorsal vein about 1/2 inch long protruding at all times right below my glans... wasn't there until after the injury.

I've done a lot of reading of medical books, journals... seems like the Deep Dorsal Vein (DDV) is the primary means of draining the corpus cavernosum, spongiosum, and glans penis... But some journals/books claim the Superficial Dorsal Vein (SDV) may also drain the cavernosum and glans penis.


Did you make any further progress? I had a doppler study done and came out fine... but I will have one looking at my SDV now to identify if it has a leak.
 

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One way to prevent DDV damage is not to put pressure on it from jelging or extensive masturbation. Focus the jelg to the sides and under the penis targeting only the corpus cavernosums (sides) and the corpus spongiosum (under side where the urethra track is at on the penis). V-Jelgs do great from avoiding the DDV. I make it a habit not to apply pressure on the DDV (which in on the top side in the middle which is also where the main nerve is at).
 

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I haven't had a lot of time lately to mess with this, as i just moved into a new place and started school back up, and have some other medical issues i've been dealing with.
But yeah the superficial dorsal vein is prominent even when flaccid; i never remember it before. It definitely drains my glans, when i squeeze off as some junction it i can see it(SDV) inflate and the glans remains engorged.

No progress as of yet. And yes i've read some stuff indicating that the SDV can drain the glans/cs. I assume this isn't always true, but only in certain people. I think we may have always had it that way, but we engorged the small veins through PE making blood outflow increase to a point where it exceeds inflow and then you end up with a soft glans except when you kegel, or are very excited although it can quickly lose its turgor.

Let me know what they do or find out!
 

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i had a penile doppler test and it said i didnt have a venous leak, do you think its accurate. do u think u have a venous leak
 
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i had a penile doppler test and it said i didnt have a venous leak, do you think its accurate. do u think u have a venous leak

You've been at this for over a month. Seriously. There is nothing this forum can tell you that will convince you what your doctor has confirmed. You do not have a venous leak.
 

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dude i just almost panicked so much, look dr pepper has a venous leak and it didnt come up on doppler test.......-"For whatever reason, my venous leak did not show up on the doppler or cavernsogram test. Only when they injected dye directly into the superficial dorsal vein was I diagnosed as having a venous leak, so the tests aren't definitive."
 

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That wasn't me that was diagnosed, it was a guy from another forum.
But yeah it doesn't mean the tests are definitive. I definitely screwed up my dick somewhat. Really pisses me off. PE is pretty dangerous, especially erect squeezes. :(
 

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I'm so depressed, if this ttest didn't work for someone how do I know it was accurate with me
 

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My uro gave me cialis 5 mg every other day for 4 months. Did for a month, boners like i was young. no resolution of soft glans though. But it seems to be getting better slowwwly. Still stays flaccid sometimes.

I know that tying my SDV would fix it.
Find a uro that will work with u. after u do the 3-4 month cialis and arent satisfied, then they will be more apt to treat. In the meantime it will give u the confidence u need to perform.
 

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Wow... I didn't even know this was a theory...

I always have had this and I can't remember not having it. I have rock hard, vainy erections mid-shaft, but my glans is always pretty soft. This applies mostly to when my dick is in it's natural erect position. When I'm hard and I push it slightly down, the glans gets much harder. Is this something bad? I always presumed it was normal. Or should your glans be just as hard as your shaft? When I'm 100% hard and kegel, the glans gets hard, and when squeezing my dick mid-shaft it also gets super hard... Yet another thing to worry about? Haha. After improving my EQ by about 300% in the last 6 weeks I'm pretty sure this is something I can overcome as well (given that's something to worry about).
 

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My uro gave me cialis 5 mg every other day for 4 months. Did for a month, boners like i was young. no resolution of soft glans though. But it seems to be getting better slowwwly. Still stays flaccid sometimes.

I know that tying my SDV would fix it.
Find a uro that will work with u. after u do the 3-4 month cialis and arent satisfied, then they will be more apt to treat. In the meantime it will give u the confidence u need to perform.

I have the same issue I think I jelqed with too much of an erection I immediately noticed my erection go down instantly and I've been stuck with the soft glans ever since and no throbbing erections. The strange thing is though is that even when I squeese my PC muscle as hard as I can the glans still won't infalte fully, maybe half of what it used to. I'll do a strong Kegel and the glans will get a bit bigger but when I let go the glans deflate. I can't remember the last time I got an erection where the glans were big and glossy. Before this injury I was 6 inches erect curently I'm a bit below that (5.5 inches) but the deflated glans give the appearance of a smaller erection and I think I have slightly less girth due to the deflated glans. I believe a leak from one of the veins could be causing me to lose erections so quickly because when I get an erection I notice that the glans will deflate fast which often causes the entire penis to lose hardness.

I wonder about surgery for this issue do have any thoughts on it?
 
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Okay, since my injury has been healing, my soft glans has dissipated. Since my injury was to the pelvic floor, I am chiming in on that theory.

Strengthen your pelvic floor, stretch and exercise the muscles around the perineum, and enjoy a full head. I notice my head fills a lot easier when I am standing as opposed to laying on my back. When on my back, I notice my head fills up more as I am aroused more and more, which is accompanied with an increase in involuntary muscle contractions along the pelvic floor.

If everyone who claimed to have soft glans actually had a venous leak, then I would be surprised the rate of venous leakage in the populous isn't higher.
 

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Okay, since my injury has been healing, my soft glans has dissipated. Since my injury was to the pelvic floor, I am chiming in on that theory.

Strengthen your pelvic floor, stretch and exercise the muscles around the perineum, and enjoy a full head. I notice my head fills a lot easier when I am standing as opposed to laying on my back. When on my back, I notice my head fills up more as I am aroused more and more, which is accompanied with an increase in involuntary muscle contractions along the pelvic floor.

If everyone who claimed to have soft glans actually had a venous leak, then I would be surprised the rate of venous leakage in the populous isn't higher.

This sounds like me, except for that I haven't healed yet. I'll get on with this.
Meh. Kinda sucks. I was thinking I was having great erections (compared to a month ago anyway), but now I find out I'm not nearly there yet. Is it normal to have a hard head? My head only gets hard when I push my erection down an inch or two. Then it gets super hard, but when it's just standing up, my glans is really soft, whereas my shaft is hard. I'm pretty sure I don't have venous leak, as I've never done PE before, except for some REALLY light jelqing (more like masturbating).

How do you recommend to stretch and losen your perineum?
 

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There is alot of controversy about this. Some say that venous leak doesn't exist. Rather its just the smooth muscle being over contracted and not sealing off the dorsal vein properly. I personally buy into the pelvic floor theory 100 percent. Those with pelvic floor problems, hard flaccid, etc... all experience this. Instead of holding a kegel, when you have a good erection, hold a reverse kegel. This relaxes the muscles. This is what needs to be done. See if your glans doesn't inflate then.
 

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Okay, since my injury has been healing, my soft glans has dissipated. Since my injury was to the pelvic floor, I am chiming in on that theory.

Strengthen your pelvic floor, stretch and exercise the muscles around the perineum, and enjoy a full head. I notice my head fills a lot easier when I am standing as opposed to laying on my back. When on my back, I notice my head fills up more as I am aroused more and more, which is accompanied with an increase in involuntary muscle contractions along the pelvic floor.

If everyone who claimed to have soft glans actually had a venous leak, then I would be surprised the rate of venous leakage in the populous isn't higher.

I've noticed mine gets better when i relax it. If i kegel it gets hard, and when i release it deflates immediately. Still, before the vein that leaks was much smaller and although it probably still "leaked" a tiny bit, which i think is normal is many men, it isn't normal for ME (we are all different). I engorged it repeatedly causing an increase in outflow. Fortunately i stopped PE (although not saying all PE is bad, just ones that engorge veins that shouldn't be engorged). If the vein was reduced in diameter a bit i am very confident that my issue would be almost unnoticeable. When i am super horny the inflow is so much that the head engorged and the vein stands out and i can actually feel the blood flowing out. Then i apply slight pressure on any point of the vein and watch as my glans engorges to full size and becomes very shiny.

I don't doubt your issue was which you say.. but that doesn't mean that is causing everyone's soft glans.

This sounds like me, except for that I haven't healed yet. I'll get on with this.
Meh. Kinda sucks. I was thinking I was having great erections (compared to a month ago anyway), but now I find out I'm not nearly there yet. Is it normal to have a hard head? My head only gets hard when I push my erection down an inch or two. Then it gets super hard, but when it's just standing up, my glans is really soft, whereas my shaft is hard. I'm pretty sure I don't have venous leak, as I've never done PE before, except for some REALLY light jelqing (more like masturbating).

How do you recommend to stretch and losen your perineum?

It could be the perineum area. It could be natural for you. For me, a firm head (not as hard as the shaft, but larger than flaccid and somewhat shiny, was normal)

There is alot of controversy about this. Some say that venous leak doesn't exist. Rather its just the smooth muscle being over contracted and not sealing off the dorsal vein properly. I personally buy into the pelvic floor theory 100 percent. Those with pelvic floor problems, hard flaccid, etc... all experience this. Instead of holding a kegel, when you have a good erection, hold a reverse kegel. This relaxes the muscles. This is what needs to be done. See if your glans doesn't inflate then.
Of course it exists. Both conditions exist. One existing doesn't discount the other. Some have been cured by having the vein embolized. Some have been cured with pelvic floor therapy. I never had hard flaccid. The reverse kegel's don't help me, believe me i've tried. I had noticed my problem SLOWLY getting better, and that is being off the cialis which i only took for a month because i had hip surgery. So i think time, hot/cold alternating, good diet, and being young is helping whaver soft tissue damage i had slowly reverse. Yet it may never fully reverse. Still, without cialis i am sexually functional, and with it, I can do whatever i want and get aroused very easily (not the case 6 months ago).
I have the same issue I think I jelqed with too much of an erection I immediately noticed my erection go down instantly and I've been stuck with the soft glans ever since and no throbbing erections. The strange thing is though is that even when I squeese my PC muscle as hard as I can the glans still won't infalte fully, maybe half of what it used to. I'll do a strong Kegel and the glans will get a bit bigger but when I let go the glans deflate. I can't remember the last time I got an erection where the glans were big and glossy. Before this injury I was 6 inches erect curently I'm a bit below that (5.5 inches) but the deflated glans give the appearance of a smaller erection and I think I have slightly less girth due to the deflated glans. I believe a leak from one of the veins could be causing me to lose erections so quickly because when I get an erection I notice that the glans will deflate fast which often causes the entire penis to lose hardness.

I wonder about surgery for this issue do have any thoughts on it?

You should see a doctor and ask for EOD cialis 5mg. Say you are having trouble achieving proper erections. Also you need to quit any smoking (weed/alcohol), any painkillers, and make sure your diet is clean to exclude those issues.

Wow... I didn't even know this was a theory...

I always have had this and I can't remember not having it. I have rock hard, vainy erections mid-shaft, but my glans is always pretty soft. This applies mostly to when my dick is in it's natural erect position. When I'm hard and I push it slightly down, the glans gets much harder. Is this something bad? I always presumed it was normal. Or should your glans be just as hard as your shaft? When I'm 100% hard and kegel, the glans gets hard, and when squeezing my dick mid-shaft it also gets super hard... Yet another thing to worry about? Haha. After improving my EQ by about 300% in the last 6 weeks I'm pretty sure this is something I can overcome as well (given that's something to worry about).
Again some people are born like this. However i don't think it is the norm. I always used to get hard first in the glans, now it only gets hard if i kegel, or pinch the vein, ejaculate, or am extremely horny (and the moment i lose focus the head deflates a bit, and i never experience the "throb" anymore that i used to, unless i pinch the vein. I exercise alot so i think my blood flow is very good which helps compensate for the problem.
 
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Hi, I just wanted to chime in with my observations of my superficial dorsal and how it's correlated to my EQ- I suffered a high flow priapism due to a skateboard injury, about 9 mo.s ago.. It went down after about 2.5 weeks of being nearly half erect :O the very first thing I noticed about the appearance is that vein had become huge, and remained that way for a long while.. Allthe while I suffered major ED.. I have no idea how it's related, but as I improved, the vein shrank down to what I remember to be normal.. To the point where I felt I was 90% back to normal. Then- about a month ago, I had a little slip out
accident (made a thread abt it) and bam- the vein is enlarged again, and my EQ is way down... They seem to work hand in hand in my case. My theory is that during my priapism, blood had to get creative and find some alternative pathways back to my heart, this enlarged some veins maybe created a peripheral vein, perhaps linking the CC to thesuperficial vein, my little injury last month reopened this pathway and now ive regressed a bit. It's still enlarged dang it. If I leave it alone all day, it will go down some, but after messing w it it seems to swell up again,, I duno tho, just wanted to share.. If it comes down to it I'd gladly get it tied off, it's very close to the skin. Good Luck to you!!
 

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Ok, I'm cured from this. I've been doing some very mild kegeling and noticed some improvement in the last week. Now today... Undescribeable. My EQ is at 100% and no less. Oh my god. I friggin' look like a pornstar, lol. Hard as a ROCK, throughout. Glans really engorged, red and hard.
 

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Just out of curiosity, what has you guys doctor said about the deflated glans? Personally, I don't believe the "enlarged" dorsal vein is the cause of this, and its probably just fluid build up that might be causing your EQ to drop. I see plentys of guys with a huge dorsal, and they also have a huge penis and huge glossy glans. You are most likely overtrained, give your dick some time to rest.
 

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Kegels don't really help to improve my soft glans even with a strong Kegel it will reach about 60% of it's size I'm guessing the reason my glans can't fully engorge is either due to poor blood flow or scar tissue is preventing it from expanding. Pressing down on the Dorsal vein doesn't increase glans size either so I think my Dorsal vein is fucked or something.

Now with reverse Kegels I do find it softens my flacid penis much more but then the erection is super weak it's like getting an erection with no blood in it it feels totally fucked up, my guess is because with reverse Kegels your pumping blood back out of the penis? I think I will stick with regular Kegels reverse Kegels make my dick lifeless and feel dead.
 

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Hi, I just wanted to chime in with my observations of my superficial dorsal and how it's correlated to my EQ- I suffered a high flow priapism due to a skateboard injury, about 9 mo.s ago.. It went down after about 2.5 weeks of being nearly half erect :O the very first thing I noticed about the appearance is that vein had become huge, and remained that way for a long while.. Allthe while I suffered major ED.. I have no idea how it's related, but as I improved, the vein shrank down to what I remember to be normal.. To the point where I felt I was 90% back to normal. Then- about a month ago, I had a little slip out
accident (made a thread abt it) and bam- the vein is enlarged again, and my EQ is way down... They seem to work hand in hand in my case. My theory is that during my priapism, blood had to get creative and find some alternative pathways back to my heart, this enlarged some veins maybe created a peripheral vein, perhaps linking the CC to thesuperficial vein, my little injury last month reopened this pathway and now ive regressed a bit. It's still enlarged dang it. If I leave it alone all day, it will go down some, but after messing w it it seems to swell up again,, I duno tho, just wanted to share.. If it comes down to it I'd gladly get it tied off, it's very close to the skin. Good Luck to you!!

How's your progress?