LG hanger vs BIB
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A point that can be forgotten regarding LG hanger is also that Marlon and Dr.Ric keeps develop the product with for example the new attachment that allows you to hang bundled. Compare it to other companys that just try to maximize thier profit. Using your own product for years will ofc lead you to new ways to improve it. This is the best side of the PE comminity.
Ok, question for Marlon (I know I keep buggin' ya, 
).. So I've been hanging a fair amount with the compression hanger over the last 1.5 yrs and a few times I made it to 17.5 lbs and 15 lbs respectfully.. So, if I were to get an LG where do u think a guy could safely start out in the weight dept?? Like would I have to start at the 3 lb mark and work up, or would it be safe for me to do 5-7 lbs range from the start up?? I know about the blister issues, my total time over 3 sets in the compression hanger has never gone of 60 min..
).. So I've been hanging a fair amount with the compression hanger over the last 1.5 yrs and a few times I made it to 17.5 lbs and 15 lbs respectfully.. So, if I were to get an LG where do u think a guy could safely start out in the weight dept?? Like would I have to start at the 3 lb mark and work up, or would it be safe for me to do 5-7 lbs range from the start up?? I know about the blister issues, my total time over 3 sets in the compression hanger has never gone of 60 min..Ok, question for Marlon (I know I keep buggin' ya,
I believe you could easily start out with 5 lbs and would soon be be able to determine what you could handle without blister complications. Because both devices are miles apart in the way they each work, the weight used is inconsequential. It's very important that you allow time for that very sensitive and delicate skin on your glans / meatus to become conditioned for the work load. The training is completely different, so making the transition from one to the other will take some time. But I'm confident that you'll appreciate the difference!
Talk about sensitivity... I used to hang 20 lbs. effortlessly with the BIB and with the LG I've been increasing 0.34 lbs. and 5 minutes to the set every couple of days so long as everything is fine (begun with 5 lbs.) and yesterday, at 8.5 lbs. 1x65 min., a blister already appeared right next to my urethral opening. So weak...
hwell:I liked BIB's approach to hang no matter what unless you're really damaged, but I fear that if I hang without the blister being completely gone it will never go away and can worsen (if it won't please tell me so I can keep up hanging :biggrin1
. It's incredibly tiny, though (half a grain of rice, a tiny bit fattier). It also doesn't look like it's going to disappear after only one day off. out:
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I agree with you 100% regarding the new attachment. I have no doubt in my mind the bundle hanging technique using retrofit speeds up gains !!!
Um... yeah, certainly. I'm not that nuts. :bangin: Any tips for that? I'm just using the blue tender tape, but I figured I could start using the beige tape underneath it, just a little square to cover the urethral opening. Is more tape (layers) necessarily beneficial?
Talk about sensitivity... I used to hang 20 lbs. effortlessly with the BIB and with the LG I've been increasing 0.34 lbs. and 5 minutes to the set every couple of days so long as everything is fine (begun with 5 lbs.) and yesterday, at 8.5 lbs. 1x65 min., a blister already appeared right next to my urethral opening. So weak...
I liked BIB's approach to hang no matter what unless you're really damaged, but I fear that if I hang without the blister being completely gone it will never go away and can worsen (if it won't please tell me so I can keep up hanging :biggrin1
Based on the weight & time progression you've outlined, I believe you are going too fast. I understand you were able to hang more weight with the BiB as compared to the LG Hanger. But because they both work completely different you cannot assume that what you were capable with the BiB would be true with the LG Hanger, at least not right away. It takes some time to develop the conditioning necessary to hang 8 1/2 lbs for a hour. I know with all my recent posts I am beginning to sound like a broken record, when it comes to being too aggressive with weight and time. I never recommend going beyond a hour of hang time.
I have two articles on my Blog on "How to prevent blisters, and what to do if you get one". Please visit the site and review them.... lghangerllc.blogspot.com
Since you have a very small blister, I suggest that you leave it alone and do not pop it. Usually in a day it will recede and the skin will re-attach. Dial back the weight and time progression and camp out with a lighter weight for a full week before you add weight.
Ok, question for Marlon (I know I keep buggin' ya,
You'll need to start at a low weight because the amount of weight you do is correlated to the amount of pressure you're putting on your glans, so you'll need to build up. I found that going up 2 pounds a week if I hung 5 or 6 days a week worked for me. Took me maybe 6 weeks to get to 20 pounds, after that, I could go higher, but I feel comfortable at this weight.
Another advantage of the new Bundle Retrofit as show above by T-Bone is that you can achieve higher levels of stress without having to add more weight. Same can be said of the Fulcrum exercise in some respects, as it can more fully isolate various sections of penile shaft while under traction.
You are an exceptional hanger! Being able to advance from 3 lbs to 20 lbs in six weeks is phenomenal! Very few guys can achieve the kind of conditioning necessary to advance that fast without giving themselves a blisters.
It certainly didn't work for me; I went up a little bit bellow 2 lbs./week and on week 2 I already had a blister (7 hg of pressure). It really sucks that they don't provide any kind of guideline for starters regarding weight, time and/or pressure increase. I still don't know if it was the weight WITH the pressure, just the weight, just the pressure or just the time which caused the blister. I also don't know if I should just keep the pressure and increase the weight until it slips so to make sure I must increase to that determined amount of pressure. I always thought slippage could really hurt one's unit but... go figure...
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Boo-Ya..
You should try wrapping your penis with Microfoam (NexCare) and Toe Cap
Click on the link for explanation:
https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-devices-forum/62139-rep-support-lg-hanger-q-149.html#post1176364
or
Micropore with Cotton and Hydro therm Bad.
Attn.: It is virtually impossible to get a blister using the Micropore, cotton and Hydrotherm Bath method.
Would that wrapping method also prove useful for hanging with the Bib or golf weights as and ADS?
Thanks a lot tbone! I was just thinking about your first suggestion and, to top it up, fill the cap with baby powder. For whatever reason it seems to be working for some guys at Thunders.
I searched for Hydrotherm and couldn't find anything in here; is the order cotton, wrap it up with micropore and then do this bath (what is this bath?).
Since you seem experienced, at what heights have you hung so far with the LG? How much pressure one must increase would you say, on average, for each pound increment?
Thanks a lot again ; )
You never wrap the glans for the BIB, but the use of a rubber sleeve might work. Golf weights and ADS don't do squat for gains unless you don't do anything else and have never experienced any gains whatsoever (your penis then is susceptible to the tiniest amount of stimuli); either way, you can't travel very far with it.
There's this "theory" around the idea of anti-turtling and healing elongated but I think it's a somewhat misconceived one. It reminds me of a talk show where Mandingo shows his flaccid penis an it's this tiny-worm-thing. xD
I've never heard of guys who don't use ADS having trouble gaining for not doing so nor heard of those who use reporting big improvements due to it. The formula Time X Intensity = Gains seems to me one of the most valid ones in P.E. so far.
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Flaccid penis size can fluctuate based on temperature, body posture (standing vs sitting), any stress you might be feeling at the time. Maybe Mandingo was a little nervous being interviewed in a talk show? I've never seen him in porn, so I wouldn't know what would be considered an appropriate or reasonable flaccid penis size based on his erect measurements.
The theory around anti-turtling and healing or recovering while being in your max flaccid condition has merit. I doubt Mandingo engages in any penis enlargement exercising, he is naturally gifted and doesn't need to get any bigger based on the measurements he has. He makes his money doing porn and could probably care less about his flaccid size. I've just never heard of anyone who has a 8" flaccid penis, but only is 6" erect.
One thing that I also discovered over time is angles make an enormous difference, its not just weight. I think angles are more important than weight.
I drew a picture here. The first angle, which I used for a long time, where the angle was aimed much more upwards, took much longer to fatigue my penis. I could do 2 consecutive 2 hour sets with a certain weight, and would only feel a little fatigue.
The 2nd angle which I discovered, where the pulled attached to the LG Hanger is running nearly perpendicular to my body, only a few inches over my face, is much much better. With this set up, my sets at the exact same weight are much shorter, and much more intense, because my penis at the very root is basically bending over my pelvis. The combined tension of the weight over the small surfaces area of my pelvic bone creates a huge amount of force to separate my penis.
Basically with the 2nd angle, my 2 consecutive sets are 35 minutes followed by 20 minutes. I take a 5 minute break in between. If I do a 3rd consecutive set I can only do 15 minutes and im really fatigued at that point. It feels physically sore in the area of tension but its really good for growth.
Think about it, if you're trying to stretch a plastic material with your hands, how would you do it? If someone gave you a plastic tube that resembled the penis, you wouldn't simply try to pull it apart, you would try to bend it over certain angles or twist it(bundled hanging/stretches) or even twist it over an angle for maximum tension.
I drew a picture here. The first angle, which I used for a long time, where the angle was aimed much more upwards, took much longer to fatigue my penis. I could do 2 consecutive 2 hour sets with a certain weight, and would only feel a little fatigue.
The 2nd angle which I discovered, where the pulled attached to the LG Hanger is running nearly perpendicular to my body, only a few inches over my face, is much much better. With this set up, my sets at the exact same weight are much shorter, and much more intense, because my penis at the very root is basically bending over my pelvis. The combined tension of the weight over the small surfaces area of my pelvic bone creates a huge amount of force to separate my penis.
Basically with the 2nd angle, my 2 consecutive sets are 35 minutes followed by 20 minutes. I take a 5 minute break in between. If I do a 3rd consecutive set I can only do 15 minutes and im really fatigued at that point. It feels physically sore in the area of tension but its really good for growth.
Think about it, if you're trying to stretch a plastic material with your hands, how would you do it? If someone gave you a plastic tube that resembled the penis, you wouldn't simply try to pull it apart, you would try to bend it over certain angles or twist it(bundled hanging/stretches) or even twist it over an angle for maximum tension.
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Yep! Both Dr. Ric and I have been sayin the exact same thing for the past two years! This is why I worked on perfecting the Bundle Retrofit attachment for the LG Hanger and have also emphasized using a Fulcrum. You can use less weight with better results. Although I still recommend traditional hanging for a solid 3 months before one moves onto these more advanced exercises.
Alienware, what you describe is just the LOT (loss of tugback) theory in practice. You should research on BIB's LOT Theory, it's one of the oldest (if not the older) and reasonable ones I've found so far. It has its criticisms but, then again, which theory doesn't (it was never fully debunked, by the way, even though I see many claiming it has).
What you describe is just a lowering of the angle to better attack the ligaments (instead of tunica); this isn't always as pinpointed as it may sound for there are some trigonometry hocus pocus involved. Anyway... eventually, according to the theory, you won't be able to gain any further from pulling out the adhesions from your ligaments and will have to start targetting your tunica (SO, SU, bundled, fulcrum, etc.). Best way I heard of is by doing Hobby's seesaw approach.
