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I was hoping the infrared lamp would help you with your girth gains. At this point though, you've got a big D, so you just have to keep consistent with your girth training. Eventually, you'll get the gains you seek.
 

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In what sense? I found that when I used just the vacuum cone that it would always slip once I started getting serious with the weights. Up to 10 lbs was always fine, but 12 lbs+ it was too difficult to hold. I way preferred using just the vacuum cone to any other combination. Got the best fatigue. I honestly didn't notice any difference between the two vacuum cones, so used them interchangeably. I never suffered any injuries. My glans got a bit battered up and got incredible fatigue in my shaft, and the off temporary ED from doing too much, but no real injuries.

Thanks for answering. I've few more questions in my mind about VacHanger3 usage.
1. How hard did you suck air out? Or does it even matter at all because there is no more vacuum made after glans blocks air hole.

2. Did you have any gap between tip of glans and bottom of cylinder when hanging? When I suck air out head is against bottom but when I apply weight there is little gap.
 

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Ah I lost a lot of girth, I don't feel large. I got good length, but very skinny. Will keep at it.

I was hoping the infrared lamp would help you with your girth gains. At this point though, you've got a big D, so you just have to keep consistent with your girth training. Eventually, you'll get the gains you seek.
 

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1. I always did my tape wrapping with a stiffy, then entered the cylinder and sucked out the air until it formed a solid seal. My glans usually filled up the cylinder and it formed a nice seal.

2. I found if I wrapped flaccid/entered the cylinder flaccid, this would happen. There would be more slippage. There is still going to be a little movement in the cylinder, that is only normal. I wouldn't worry about it too much unless it is causing pain/discomfort etc.

Thanks for answering. I've few more questions in my mind about VacHanger3 usage.
1. How hard did you suck air out? Or does it even matter at all because there is no more vacuum made after glans blocks air hole.

2. Did you have any gap between tip of glans and bottom of cylinder when hanging? When I suck air out head is against bottom but when I apply weight there is little gap.
 

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Excuse me sir, but what are mebs?
 

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Kick-you seem somewhat depressed in your recent posts. You have much to be proud of-your personal PE success and you have been educational and inspirational to many of us!
 

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Awww thanks man! Just before I came on the site tonight I was feeling depressed about my girth; I am probably just barely over 4.5" some days. I don't have the motivation I used to have for PE. I am glad my posts have been a help to guys over the years, that is some kind of consolation.

Kick-you seem somewhat depressed in your recent posts. You have much to be proud of-your personal PE success and you have been educational and inspirational to many of us!
 

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Kick-you are a Poster Boy for PE. You have tried and thankfully reported on so many techniques and devices. In addition to being a great ambassador for PE Gym, remind yourself of the personal success you have had. Your girth pumped up before and it will again. Merry Christmas ����
 

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Yup, thanks man. I am going to go on a porn detox for the new year, hopefully get some EQ improvements as a result. Will try to PE too but I don't really have the motivation and time.

Kick-you are a Poster Boy for PE. You have tried and thankfully reported on so many techniques and devices. In addition to being a great ambassador for PE Gym, remind yourself of the personal success you have had. Your girth pumped up before and it will again. Merry Christmas ����
 

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Hi Kickinthemebs, thanks for all the knowledge you shared over the years! I enjoyed reading your posts and found them very informative.
I was hoping you could answer a few questions regarding combining Phallosan with hanging.

Knowing what you now know, would you have incorporated hanging sooner into your Phallosan routine?
What would you say is the optimal hanging time in conjunction with PF?
And finally, when you did hang, did you use the same weight throughout your set or did you start off heavier then "ride the fatigue" by lowering the weights"?

I currently hang a total of 3-4 hours a day plus another 5-8 hours of extension using PF for a total combined time of 8-12 hours.
I'm sort of following your theme of using low weight for longer hanging time but I think I need to start cutting down on my hanging time due to privacy issues so I want to use heavier weight but at the same time don't want my dick to "turn to steel" so to speak.
 

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Yeah, no problem. No, I would have kept it the exact same way as I did it. I am 100% adamant that the low intensity forms of PE, i.e. extending, are better at the beginning of a person's PE career. I would only recommend people move onto hanging once their gains have completely washed up with extending (i.e. nothing in 2 months+). Think about it logically, you need constant pressure and strain on your dick to see length gains and if you start off with the highest impact form of PE, where are you going to go from there, hit the thing with a hammer?! :D

My hanging methodology was the same as my extending one, and also my weightlifting one. With a particular weight, I will hang with that weight until I stop feeling fatigue from it for a few days and then will increase the weight or time. For the light weights I would hang for 3-4 hours a day and would only move up in weight if I felt no fatigue whatsoever. I would move up in very small increments as well, e.g. 0.5 - 1 kg, depending on the starting point (i.e. 1 kg early on is fine, but as you get heavier even 0.5 kg seems a lot).

If time is an issue, then I would still follow your current procedure but do a few slight alterations to induce fatigue quicker with the same weights. Even 5 minutes of manual stretching before hanging will induce fatigue a lot quicker. Also, with hanging I used to "swing" or fulcrum hang to get fatigue quicker, usually when I wanted to really stick to a weight before increasing. I would spend weeks on certain weights without increasing total weight because of these methods. If you are compression hanging, you aren't really going to be able to hang much more than 15 or 20 kg, so you might as well ride out the lower weights for as long as possible. I always found my ideal hanging weight to be around 8-12 kg, it was definitely my sweet spot. If I were to go back I would try to keep myself very slowly in that weight range for as long as possible.

Is this of any help?

Hi Kickinthemebs, thanks for all the knowledge you shared over the years! I enjoyed reading your posts and found them very informative.
I was hoping you could answer a few questions regarding combining Phallosan with hanging.

Knowing what you now know, would you have incorporated hanging sooner into your Phallosan routine?
What would you say is the optimal hanging time in conjunction with PF?
And finally, when you did hang, did you use the same weight throughout your set or did you start off heavier then "ride the fatigue" by lowering the weights"?

I currently hang a total of 3-4 hours a day plus another 5-8 hours of extension using PF for a total combined time of 8-12 hours.
I'm sort of following your theme of using low weight for longer hanging time but I think I need to start cutting down on my hanging time due to privacy issues so I want to use heavier weight but at the same time don't want my dick to "turn to steel" so to speak.
 

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Yes that was helpful and makes perfect sense, thank you. Did you do manual stretches yourself prior to hanging? And after hanging did you strap into the phallosan to heal in that extended state or just let your penis rest?

And finally, what about incorporating other exercises like jelquing and bathmate to induce fatigue?

P.S. Your sweet spot of 8-12kg sounds like a hell of a lot of weight to me (26 pounds!!!)
 

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Oh sugar, I meant 8-12 lbs haha. I haven't hung for around a year or more so it is all a bit hazy now.
I did sometimes do stretching before hanging. Most of the time I didn't bother though. I never bothered using the phallosan after
hanging, I had enough of the phallosan after really going at it quite a lot (over 3000 hours). I didn't want to look at it again.
I sort of feel the same way about hanging, but not as bad. I would probably hang again.
I used to pump after hanging and found it really effective, but it can be a bit overkill too. Guys often put too much different things and try too hard with PE, which also has a negative effect on gains. I did that at some points too near the end of my gains period.

Yes that was helpful and makes perfect sense, thank you. Did you do manual stretches yourself prior to hanging? And after hanging did you strap into the phallosan to heal in that extended state or just let your penis rest?

And finally, what about incorporating other exercises like jelquing and bathmate to induce fatigue?

P.S. Your sweet spot of 8-12kg sounds like a hell of a lot of weight to me (26 pounds!!!)
 

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Kick, your success with Phallosan has greatly inspired me. For the first 2000-2500 hours you especially showed great gains. I plan to follow your successful routine.
 

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Cool, thanks man! I honestly don't know how I managed to put in that many hours... Looking back I was very lucky that I could work from home, so I was able to do PE without any hassle. Working a 9-6 office job leaves little time for anything except gym and rest :)

Kick, your success with Phallosan has greatly inspired me. For the first 2000-2500 hours you especially showed great gains. I plan to follow your successful routine.
 

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Oh dear, back to square one. After exceedingly poor EQ and lost gains over the past year, I'm going to try back at the PE. I'm embarrassed about how I have been unable to stick to it. Let's say I have a reason to get back into it, with repeated bad incidences of low libido, lost erections, and poor EQ. Not fair on the girlfriend. Anyway, hopefully I can stick to it.