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Friend of mine posted this Father and Daughter having a beat box battle...

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10207117195708381

She flattened her dad, LOL!!!!

 

[closed224]

I'm glad we changed the subject before noting who owned whom when writing the Declaration of Independence.

 

[Frog]

I'm making deviled eggs, potato salad and pork ribs for Saturday. My girlfriend and I are going boating and trolling for guys. Anyone have fun plans for this weekend?

 

[JonPop]

Yes. Going to hang out where you and G/F are boating.

 

[Frog]

Yes. Going to hang out where you and G/F are boating.

LOVE IT!!!! You know where I am and you are always invited!

 

[Dontrike]

I'm making deviled eggs, potato salad and pork ribs for Saturday. My girlfriend and I are going boating and trolling for guys. Anyone have fun plans for this weekend?

Probably going to order pizza and...............that's it. Livin' the high life over here.

 

[Frog]

Probably going to order pizza and...............that's it. Livin' the high life over here.

Pizza would be easier!

 

[Tamora]

One minutes silence over here in the UK at 12 noon for the 30 who died in the Tunisia beach attack.

 

[Tamora]

Amen.

 

[Dontrike]

Pizza would be easier!

Maybe I'll make it more backdoor barbecue esque by getting that hotdog pizza from Pizza Hut. It sounds like an awful idea, but man do I want to try it.

 

[MrsLooking4more]

Well, we conquered Japan before, let's do it again.
(We also conquered Germany before.)

******CHANT******

USA
USA
USA!

Let's keep it going JP!

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Wusaaa wusaaa

The only usa chant I do.

ound: :whoo:

Sorry boys our team made it to the finals win or not that's an accomplishment, so situp an compliments their toned Ass...ets. :becky:

 

[closed224]

I agree that it would have been more satisfying if England would have made it to the finals, to us to beat I mean. Hahahaha, no matter how good a team looks on paper any team can win on any day. That's why the matches are actually played.

 

[BigRooster]

Have any of you guys actually read the "Declarations of Secession"?? I read through one of them in college and was appalled, but with all this nonsense happening I read the rest of them...

They're pure hatred and evil... This flag represents that hatred and evil. I just can't for the life of me really understand why someone would publicly proclaim pride in that... Then try to revise history by saying "it wasn't about that!"

Check this nugget from Texas!

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Then this one from Mississippi

Then this one from The South Carolina:



South Carolina Wasn't as blatantly offensive, but they made clear their desire to withdraw was specifically over Lincoln's opposition to Slavery.

These letters are clear as crystal the intentions... the battle flag was flown for this very reason and it is obvious to see how it can be highly offensive to those who see it as such.

I just don't understand why people are so adamant about flying an American Swastika! Germans, barred from using the Swastika to show their hatred, have taken up the usage of the Confederate Flag (since it's not illegal to use) WILD!!!

The flag has nothing to do with hate. It was a battle flag. Just because a nut job and some hate groups use it as their symbol to promote their agenda. Does not make anyone who proudly displays it a person who hates other peoples. Go do some reading on the confederate flag and its original use.

As far as Lincoln goes. He was a true politician. Saying one thing but inside meaning one thing. Read The Real Lincoln by Thomas J. Dilorenza. Lincoln isn't who history says he is.

Those letters. There is no denying what was written. I bet northerners enjoyed the fruits off the backs of slaves just the same though.

By the way I am a white man from the South and proud of it. View attachment 78981

History books, the media, the school systems, etc abound in falsehoods and inaccuracies of Confederate and Southern history. This fact sheet will help to clarify and dispell some of these rampant inaccuracies.

MYTH - The War of 1861 - 1865 was fought over slavery.
FACT - Terribly untrue. The North fought the war over money. Plain and simple. When the South started Secession, Lincoln was asked, "Why not let the South go in peace?" To which he replied, "I can't let them go. Who would pay for the government?" Sensing total financial ruin for the North, Lincoln waged war on the South. The South fought the War to repel Northern aggression and invasion.

MYTH - Only Southerners owned slaves.
FACT - Entirely untrue. Many Northern civilians owned slaves. Prior to, during and even after the War Of Northern Aggression.
Surprisingly, to many history impaired individuals, most Union Generals and staff had slaves to serve them! William T. Sherman had many slaves that served him until well after the war was over and did not free them until late in 1865.
U.S. Grant also had several slaves, who were only freed after the 13th amendment in December of 1865. When asked why he didn't free his slaves earlier, Grant stated "Good help is so hard to come by these days."
Contrarily, Confederate General Robert E. Lee freed his slaves (which he never purchased - they were inherited) in 1862!!! Lee freed his slaves several years before the war was over, and considerably earlier than his Northern counterparts. And during the fierce early days of the war when the South was obliterating the Yankee armies!
Lastly, and most importantly, why did NORTHERN States outlaw slavery only AFTER the war was over? The so-called "Emancipation Proclamation" of Lincoln only gave freedom to slaves in the SOUTH! NOT in the North! This pecksniffery even went so far as to find the state of Delaware rejecting the 13th Amendment in December of 1865 and did not ratify it (13th Amendment / free the slaves) until 1901!

MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag was flown on slave ships.
FACT - NONE of the flags of the Confederacy or Southern Nation ever flew over a slave ship. Nor did the South own or operate any slaves ships. The English, the Dutch and the Portugese brought slaves to this country, not the Southern Nation.
BUT, even more monumental, it is also very important to know and understand that Federal, Yankee, Union ships brought slaves to America! These ships were from the New England states, and their hypocrisy is atrocious.
These Federals were ones that ended up crying the loudest about slavery. But without their ships, many of the slaves would have never arrived here. They made countless fortunes on the delivery of slaves as well as the products madefrom raw materials such as cotton and tobacco in the South.
This is the problem with Yankee history History is overwhelmingly portrayed incorrectly by most of the Federal & Yankee books and media.

MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag represented the Southern Nation.
FACT - Not true. While the Southern Battle flag was carried into battle, the Southern Nation had 3 different National flags during the course of the war.
The First National flag was changed due to a resemblance of the US flag.
The Second National flag was subsequently modified due to the similarity to a flag of truce.
The Third National flag was the adopted flag of the Confederacy.
The Confederate Battle Flag was never a National Flag of the Confederacy. It was carried into battle by several armies such as the Army Of Northen Virginia and the Army of Tennessee. Was also used as a Naval Jack by the Confederate Navy.

MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the "Stars & Bars".
FACT - A common misconception. The First National Confederate Flag is correctly known as the "Stars & Bars". The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the "Southern Cross".

MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag represents racism today.
FACT - The Confederate Battle Flag today finds itself in the center of much controversy and hoopla going on in several states. The cry to take this flag down is unjustified. It is very important to keep in mind that the Confederate Battle Flag was simply just that. A battle flag. It was never even a National flag, so how could it have flown over a slave nation or represented slavery or racism? This myth is continued by lack of education and ignorance. Those that villify the Confederate Battle Flag are very confused about history and have jumped upon a bandwagon with loose wheels.

MYTH - The United States Flag represented freedom.
FACT - No chance. The US flag flew over a slave nation for over 85 years! The North tolerated slavery and acknowledged it as a Division Of Labor. The North made a vast fortune on slavery and it's commodities. It wasn't until the South decided to leave the Union that the North objected. The North knew it could not survive without the Southern money. That is the true definition of hypocrisy.

MYTH - Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.
FACT - While Lincoln has went down in history as the Great Emancipator, many would not care to hear his real thoughts on people of color. Martyred President Abraham Lincoln was fervently making plans to send all freed slaves to the jungles of Central America once the war was over. Knowing that African society would never allow the slaves to return back to Africa, Lincoln also did not want the slaves in the US. He thought the jungles of Central America would be the best solution and conducive to the freed slaves best interest. The only thing that kept this from happening, was his assassination.

MYTH - The South revered slavery.
FACT - A very interesting fact on slavery is that at the time the War of 1861 -1865 officially commenced, the Southern States were actually in the process of freeing all slaves in the South. Russia had freed it's servants in 1859, and the South took great note of this. Had military intervention not been forced upon the South, a very different America would have been realized then as well as now.

MYTH - The Confederate Army was comprised of rich slave owners.
FACT - Very far from true. The vast majority of soldiers in the Confederate Army were simple men of meager income. Most of which were hard working farmers and common men. Then, as now, very few rich men ever fight a war.

MYTH - Only the North had men of color in their ranks.
FACT - Quite simply a major falsehood of history. Many blacks, both free and of their own will, joined the Confederate Army to fight for their beloved Southern home. Additionally, men of other ethnic extraction fought as well. Oriental, Mexican & Spanish men as well as Native American Indians fought with pride for the South.
Today, many men of color are members in the heritage group SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans. These men of color and pride rejoice in their heritage. The continued attacks on the Southern Nation, The Confederacy, and her symbols are a terrible outrage to these fine people. These attacks should be denounced with as much fervor as those who denounce the South.

MYTH - The Confederate Flags are an authorized symbol of Aryan, KKK and hate groups.
FACT - Quite the contrary. These dispicable organizations such as the KKK and Aryans have taken a hallowed piece of history, and have plagued good Southern folks and the memories of fine Confederate Soldiers that fought under the flag with their perverse agenda. IN NO WAY does the Confederate Flag represent hate or violence. Heritage groups such as the SCV battle daily the damage done to a proud nation by these hate groups. The SCV denounces all hate groups, and pridefully boast HERITAGE - NOT HATE.

MYTH - The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a racist, hate group.
FACT - This is a blatant attack on one of the finest heritage groups ever. The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a historical, patriotic and non-political organization comprised of descendents of Confederate Soldiers and sailors dedicated to insuring that a true history of the 1861 -1865 period is preserved and presented to the public. The SCV continues to educate the public of the memory and reputation of the Confederate soldier as well as the motives for his suffering and sacrifice. The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are in NO WAY affiliated with, nor does it recognize or condone the terrible legacy of hate groups such as the KKK.

 

[Frog]

:usa2:^wow

 

[closed224]

OK I tried not to but BigRooster is correct. The war was fought for two main reasons. Close to 75% of the Gross Domestic Product of the USA was being produced in the southern states. Lincoln's second biggest agenda item in fighting this war was states rights to self governance or federal rule of governance. The issue of whether the republic would rule or individual states would have more authority. This fight continues today. Our two main political parties are the Republican and the Democratic. In history there was a pretty clear division between these two parties, and you had a fairly good idea of what you would get if you voted for a candidate of one party or the other. This division is no longer true.
Money rules the day, and corruption wanders the halls of leadership. The above mentioned war was an extreme example of this former division. Slavery was not even an actual issue in regards to the war. There are quotes by Lincoln proclaiming those very things.
History is written by the victors, and that issue has become more and more an expressed sole reason for the war. Mostly since the 1940's forward. Our country was founded by a rebel yell and declaration that we luckily were strong enough to make stick at the time. The southern states were not strong enough to make that rebel yell stick. The problems in politics will continue and falsehoods will continue to be bandied about depending on the corporate mood and belief. Hate should not be tolerated no matter what justification is used. Unfortunately that will continue also.
Jefferson Davies was the President of the southern states, not a founding father.

 

[closed224]

I am from the north, if it matters to anyone.

 

[longerlastingnoob]

Ok, what about those vampires he killed? Don't tell me that wasn't true either.

 

[BigRooster]

I am from the north, if it matters to anyone.

It matters not you Yankee. I love you still.

 

[closed224]

And I love you coon ass brother o mine.

 

[burtybasset]

Symbols and images mean different things to different people, the Nazi swastika was found in Buddhism, doesn't necessarily mean everyone should take it to mean the same thing.

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The Buddha doesn't look particularly filled with hate or bent on evil does he?