JP's 90 Day Beginner Routine

[wtp]

03-24 2004
Determining LOT (Loss of Tug)





LOT (Loss of Tug). This theory was first posted by Bib.

This is a very important factor in the way you exercise.

Grasp your flaccid penis under the glans in the O.K. grip. (Palm down)
Stretch straight up (This is 12:00) Do several Kegels. Do you feel it tug back?

(No need to pull too hard, as this can be very noticeable or can be very subtle.)

Stretch straight out (9:00) do several Kegels. Do you feel it tug back?

Stretch straight down (6:00) do several Kegels. Do you feel it tug back?

When you DON'T feel it TUG BACK, this is your Loss of Tug or LOT.

If your LOT is 6:00, you will need to do your exercises straight out and straight up.

If your LOT is 9:00 or higher, you will do exercises straight out and straight down.

You always want to exercise AGAINST the TUG

Most men find that they have low LOT. Mine is at 6:00. This means that the gains come harder and require more dedication and work to see the gains.

Men with high LOT, are very lucky. Their gains come easier and can utalize weight hanging. But don't be discouraged, the Gains will come if you are dedicated and stay on the program I have outlined below.
These are exercises to help you gain, regardless of LOT

I do not understand that the tug back your referring to is. am i looking for my penis to tug back towards my body after the Kegels? i tried and i do no feel this tug back. can you please elaborate

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one other thing the 12:00, 9:00 and 6:00 are referring to direction right 12 being up 9 meaning straight and 6 meaning down right?

 

[Lazy 8]

I do not understand that the tug back your referring to is. am i looking for my penis to tug back towards my body after the Kegels? i tried and i do no feel this tug back. can you please elaborate

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one other thing the 12:00, 9:00 and 6:00 are referring to direction right 12 being up 9 meaning straight and 6 meaning down right?

LOT, or loss of tug, has fallen by the wayside as a theory. I recommend that you not fret about it and just do a good set of stretches in each direction after a thorough warm up. As for the clock metaphor, you are correct that 12 is up, 6 is down, but 3 is left and 9 is right. Straight out is straight out. Those are the 5 stretching positions. You can follow these with a set of 360 degree rotations, going first in one direction, then the other. Go slowly and put a good pull on your penis when you do the 360s. Speed doesn't count!

 

[Eyes2TheSkies]

JonPop, you mentioned to do a total of 150 wet jelqs and 90 v-jelqs...all in one session??

 

[JonPop]

JonPop, you mentioned to do a total of 150 wet jelqs and 90 v-jelqs...all in one session??

Yes I do. 50 wet Jelqs, followed by 30 "V" Jelqs. X 3 sets.

 

[Eyes2TheSkies]

isn't that a bit too much? Usually I do my exercises in the shower but haven't noticed any serious gains, so I'm gonna give the 90 day routine an honest try. my previous routine wasn't this much though... maybe I do need to do more ..

 

[JonPop]

Look E2. The routine is well designed to give you maximum conditioning for your penis to go on to advanced exercises. If you feel that it is too much, do what you feel is comfortable.
Serious gains, require serious dedication and work.

 

[d99]

Thanks for the reponses Jon

I have some specific questions.

The left and right circles during the stretching, should I do them upward after the upward stretch? same for straight out and down? or should I do them straight out for all stretching movements?

Can I do the vjelqs at around 80% erections? What's most recommended?...i'm usually at 80% for vjelqs..it's a bit hard to keep it more limp.

For vjelqs..would 1 rep be a left, straight and right movement? How long should the vjelq be? 5 seconds each direction?

I've started taking the supplements... L-Lysine & L-Arginine 1/2 before breakfast, the rest after breakfast. I had some stomach issues the first couple of days but today I was good...probably normal.

 

[Demecius]

Um...can you do some of this stuff lying down on your back? I cannot stand still for more than a minute w/o increasing pain (back problems).

thanks

 

[benditos]

Hey JP,
eh, im new in PE, and i have a few questions.
ive been looking at two routines that interest me, yours and King Pole's
so i notice they extremely similar, except the amount of jelqs.
so my questions: for "wet" jelqs, is vaseline an appropriate lube, and i read in some post that dry jelqs help more with girth?
at the end, do you cool down, or warm down?
then i intend to do kegels, to help stamina, but what exactly is edging? like masterbating or jelqing with an erect penis, and its ok to ejaculate at the end?, i know there are several theories on this, but i would like to know from your experience?
i have a curved penis, so when im doing those jelqs, is it ok if i jelq to the side, to kinda fix the curve (or would that fuck up my log)?
Is it better to do days (off, on) or like ever mon, wed,fri or tues, thus, sat, or weekdays yes weekends no? (whats over working)

and my most important question, i calculated my log, and its 12. so in my favor, im only concerned with erect length and girth
so i have right now 5.5in EL, and a 4.5 EG. , Now do you honestly think its possible to get > 6.5 EL, and >5 EG in 5 months?
i eat healthy, do excercise no smoke no drink but i really dont want to take extra suplements if it will help me achieve my goal then i will but ya, what do you think?

thank you.

 

[Eyes2TheSkies]

Today I had my first session doing this routine... and things started to look a bit bad when I was doing the V-Jelqs. Even though I wasn't fully erect, my penis felt "chubby" or hard.. and I couldn't get an erection at the end of the session. I think the workout was too much for me... Now, I'm a bit worried because the head of my penis is feeling weird, like there is some kind of "sharp pain"-ish feeling in the head. Oh crap.

 

[tabqwerty]

I don't understand the "V" jelqs. Are they really necessary?

 

[IamBig2002]

Sorry for asking stupid question, but I am very new to this forum and these exercises.
Many thanks to JonPop for posting this routine for newbies. But i was wondering if there is any video or detailed post that explains how to do following;
a. Kegel
b. Jelquing
c. V Jelqs
d. Helicopter Shakes.

As i said earlier, the question may sound stupid! Any help is appreciated.

-Big

 

[DailyAffirmation]

You can find videos of jelqs and v-jelqs here: Penis Enlargement Gym - Penis Enlargement Videos

A kegel is simply flexing the PC muscle. To find the PC muscle, the next time you urinate, cut off your urine stream. That's the PC muscle and what you should be flexing when you kegel.

Helicopter shakes are simply spinning your penis around in a circle to increase bloodflow to the head of the penis.

 

[Demecius]

I can't say I'm getting it at all.

LOT (Loss of Tug) - OK, stretch your cock in several directions and flex the muscle that you use to stop your stream (trying each direction). It's hard to tell, as it is much the same as clenching your asshole to me, but "deaper". How long do you do that for? I can stop my stream for as long as I want (uncomfortable, though). Are you supposed to feel this "tug back" during or after this exercise?

EDIT: Also, how important are the suplamenets?

 

[PhibbysHammer]

Um...can you do some of this stuff lying down on your back? I cannot stand still for more than a minute w/o increasing pain (back problems).

thanks

You can do them hanging upside down if you like , however that would inhibit blood flow which is important. Lying down is fine.

 

[PhibbysHammer]

Hey JP,
eh, im new in PE, and i have a few questions.
ive been looking at two routines that interest me, yours and King Pole's
so i notice they extremely similar, except the amount of jelqs.
so my questions: for "wet" jelqs, is vaseline an appropriate lube, and i read in some post that dry jelqs help more with girth?
at the end, do you cool down, or warm down?
then i intend to do kegels, to help stamina, but what exactly is edging? like masterbating or jelqing with an erect penis, and its ok to ejaculate at the end?, i know there are several theories on this, but i would like to know from your experience?
i have a curved penis, so when im doing those jelqs, is it ok if i jelq to the side, to kinda fix the curve (or would that fuck up my log)?
Is it better to do days (off, on) or like ever mon, wed,fri or tues, thus, sat, or weekdays yes weekends no? (whats over working)

and my most important question, i calculated my log, and its 12. so in my favor, im only concerned with erect length and girth
so i have right now 5.5in EL, and a 4.5 EG. , Now do you honestly think its possible to get > 6.5 EL, and >5 EG in 5 months?
i eat healthy, do excercise no smoke no drink but i really dont want to take extra suplements if it will help me achieve my goal then i will but ya, what do you think?

thank you.

Not JP here but a successful student of the master.

Vaseline is petroleum based and though slippery won't help your unit otherwise but dry it out. Use a good Vitamin E/aloe lotion which will enhance skin regeneration.
Some people cool down but Warm downs seem to be most popular and effective.
Edging is masterbating to the PONR (point of no return) and holding it. Letting it subside then doing it again. This strengthens your ability to control climax. Yes after as long as you can stand it blow the load and take the edge off.
jelging against the curve is a good idea.
Forget your LOT right now its no big deal. Concentrate on stretching 360 degrees. (All angles)
Supplements are extremely important and will speed up progress as well as keep your unit healthy.
I went from 6 1/4 to a bit over 7 in 3 months and I'm 46, what do you think you can do?
Good luck man, please post open questions in the appropriate forum thread so they don't get buried in one of these. You're also welcome to start a thread.

 

[PhibbysHammer]

Today I had my first session doing this routine... and things started to look a bit bad when I was doing the V-Jelqs. Even though I wasn't fully erect, my penis felt "chubby" or hard.. and I couldn't get an erection at the end of the session. I think the workout was too much for me... Now, I'm a bit worried because the head of my penis is feeling weird, like there is some kind of "sharp pain"-ish feeling in the head. Oh crap.

pay attention and keep good blood flow to the glans. You may have overgripped a bit. Did you warm up, as jelging cold would cause something similiar to what you described. Take whatever time needed to recover then start back with less tension and more care.

 

[PhibbysHammer]

Sorry for asking stupid question, but I am very new to this forum and these exercises.
Many thanks to JonPop for posting this routine for newbies. But i was wondering if there is any video or detailed post that explains how to do following;
a. Kegel
b. Jelquing
c. V Jelqs
d. Helicopter Shakes.

As i said earlier, the question may sound stupid! Any help is appreciated.

-Big

Welcome and here is your link to videos.

Penis Enlargement Gym - Penis Enlargement Videos

Good luck!!

 

[PhibbysHammer]

I can't say I'm getting it at all.

LOT (Loss of Tug) - OK, stretch your cock in several directions and flex the muscle that you use to stop your stream (trying each direction). It's hard to tell, as it is much the same as clenching your asshole to me, but "deaper". How long do you do that for? I can stop my stream for as long as I want (uncomfortable, though). Are you supposed to feel this "tug back" during or after this exercise?

EDIT: Also, how important are the suplamenets?

Forget about LOT right now, its no big deal. Supplements however, are a huge deal so make sure you take the recommended sups and vitamins.

 

[d99]

Thanks for the reponses Jon

I have some specific questions.

The left and right circles during the stretching, should I do them upward after the upward stretch? same for straight out and down? or should I do them straight out for all stretching movements?

Can I do the vjelqs at around 80% erections? What's most recommended?...i'm usually at 80% for vjelqs..it's a bit hard to keep it more limp.

For vjelqs..would 1 rep be a left, straight and right movement? How long should the vjelq be? 5 seconds each direction?

I've started taking the supplements... L-Lysine & L-Arginine 1/2 before breakfast, the rest after breakfast. I had some stomach issues the first couple of days but today I was good...probably normal.

Hey Phib...can you help out with the above?


Thanks