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9292, this might be obvious to you but I'll ask anyway. when jelqing are you building pressure between your stationary hand at the glan and the hand moving up the shaft? I can easily pack alot of blood (and cause pain if not careful) in that area and have noticable puffing of the shaft which stays for awhile after I'm done. i only ask because I was doing it way wrong at one point and was getting something similar to what youre describing

I mean, I'm trying to... It's hard to say how successful I am at it. I suppose there doesn't seem to be THAT much blood being trapped in the shaft.

My average jelqing experience is this:

I stretch before hand, but my penis is no longer than it was before I stretched (I'm not sure if its supposed to be).

Then I lube up and begin jelqing. I move my hand up the shaft, palm facing the ceiling, stopping at the glands.

I then start my other hand at the base and begin moving up the shaft. Once I'm halfway up, I release the first hand and bring it back to the base.

After about 3-4 strokes, my penis becomes too hard and I have to wait for the erection to go down. I worry that too much blood is escaping in the interim. I do 50 of these (all while sitting on the edge of my bed). I then move into V-jelq's and do 30 of those (I can only hope I'm doing those right, as there doesn't seem to be any videos showing you how to do them).

After I finish doing 150 jelqs and 90 V-jelqs, my penis does look a little darker than before, but barely thicker and certainly no longer.

If I'm doing something wrong, I can only assume it has to do with amount of pressure I'm exerting. Should I be using a lot? Or should I only use enough to push the blood up the shaft?

Also, should I be stretching my penis all the way out as I do a jelq?

As the temperature gets cooler, the temperature in my room has been getting slightly colder. I hope this won't make a big difference in terms of gains, since there's nothing I can do about that...

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Will it hurt my progress if i edge during rest days?
 

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I did those Ultimate Jelqs last night and I definitely noticed some plumpness in my penis. Hopefully I've got it down now, but we'll see.
 

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I stretch before hand, but my penis is no longer than it was before I stretched (I'm not sure if its supposed to be).

No worries, that is normal.

Then I lube up and begin jelqing. I move my hand up the shaft, palm facing the ceiling, stopping at the glands.

Have you tried the other grip? Palm facing down, index finger and thumb against your fat pad. Switching grips seemed to help me substantially.

If I'm doing something wrong, I can only assume it has to do with amount of pressure I'm exerting. Should I be using a lot? Or should I only use enough to push the blood up the shaft?

One user (can't recall who) said it best: Use about the same amount of pressure you'd use to get honey off a smooth stick.


Also, should I be stretching my penis all the way out as I do a jelq?

I've heard of guys treating the end of each jelq like a stretch, but I prefer to let it hang naturally for the most part. I'll exert just a bit of pressure to maintain my hold under the glans. It seems to me like stretching more is only doable below about 50% erection level anyway, but you're welcome to try that method.

I don't imagine the cold weather to impact you much, just maintain good warm ups.
 

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Will it hurt my progress if i edge during rest days?

If you're doing 5 on , 2 off and your penis is already tired, edging might not be a great idea. But if your penis is responding well then I see no harm in it. A lot of guys have been edging before they even knew that it had a name. For them, it's the norm, and not such a big deal.

Edit: Just be smart about it and moderate how much you edge.
 
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If you're doing 5 on , 2 off and your penis is already tired, edging might not be a great idea. But if your penis is responding well then I see no harm in it. A lot of guys have been edging before they even knew that it had a name. For them, it's the norm, and not such a big deal.

Edit: Just be smart about it and moderate how much you edge.

Yes, i'm training 5 days on, 2 off, and my training includes edging. This was just my first week of PE training, i'll rest during weekends. Thanks for helping. :)
 

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When stretching in the ok grip, is it okay of you are resting behind your glands? I understand you don't want to grab the glands but is it bad to use the place where your shaft meets the back of the glands as an anchor so to speak?
 

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Question about warming down. After I'm done with my work out I have to go downstairs to reheat my rice sock before I can warm down. My penis starts retracting( after the jelqs) by the time I can warm down. Will this harm my gains( haven't seen any yet)? Are you supposed to warm down immediately after your done or it doesn't matter?
 

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When stretching in the ok grip, is it okay of you are resting behind your glands? I understand you don't want to grab the glands but is it bad to use the place where your shaft meets the back of the glands as an anchor so to speak?

Great question. This isn't talked about too frequently. Move down just a bit towards the base - just enough so that you remain close to the glans while still applying your stretching pressure to the shaft, and not the head.

Question about warming down. After I'm done with my work out I have to go downstairs to reheat my rice sock before I can warm down. My penis starts retracting( after the jelqs) by the time I can warm down. Will this harm my gains( haven't seen any yet)? Are you supposed to warm down immediately after your done or it doesn't matter?

Don't worry too much about it; "perfect is the enemy of good." Warming down is still debated in the PE community. If you've researched the topic already and have decided that you want to go with the warm down, just make it happen as good as you possibly can.

As an alternative strategy, you can warm up 2 rice socks and keep one wrapped in an old towel or t-shirt. Enough of its heat should remain by the time you're done with your jelqs.
 

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Great question. This isn't talked about too frequently. Move down just a bit towards the base - just enough so that you remain close to the glans while still applying your stretching pressure to the shaft, and not the head.

I see, so there really should be pull in your shaft and not the back of the glands at all. I'm cut and I find that it's easy to put excess pull on the back glands, so I guess I'll move my hand back a smidge. How tight can your ok grip be before you start to hurt yourself though? Cuz I tend to find myself sliding a bit into the back of the glands, fearing to squeeze the ok grip too much.
 

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Use baby powder or something else to get a better grip, you shouldn't be touching the glans at all when you stretch, your ok grip should be at least 2 cm away from the ridge of the glans.
 

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How tight can your ok grip be before you start to hurt yourself though? Cuz I tend to find myself sliding a bit into the back of the glands, fearing to squeeze the ok grip too much.

I agree with Steve.

For me, dry hands usually provide enough grip, but whenever there were slippage issues in the past, I just used the cotton fabric from some old boxer briefs to add enough friction. That did the job well.

The grip should be just firm enough to minimize slipping and without making a tourniquet out of your penis. - any harder of a grip is not necessary.
 

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I was using baby powder to help with the grip when stretching, but my dick was getting lots of red dots and darker, almost bruising color near the glans. So I now have been using a lotion that is not that slippery and my penis is not suffering as much. My issue with stretching right now is that after warm up its not total flaccid anymore, so i'm stretching at 30% of so.
 

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When you're stretching in the beg. after doing the stretch and 25 kegels, how long should each circle take when you're doing 10 big circles to the left and 10 big circles to the right? 10 second circles? like really slow....or??
 

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I was using baby powder to help with the grip when stretching, but my dick was getting lots of red dots and darker, almost bruising color near the glans. So I now have been using a lotion that is not that slippery and my penis is not suffering as much. My issue with stretching right now is that after warm up its not total flaccid anymore, so i'm stretching at 30% of so.

Oof. Sounds like a potential allergic reaction, or perhaps too much friction/dryness caused by the baby powder. Glad you solved it. I heard a claim that the stuff is a carcinogen, but I haven't seen that substantiated yet.

Back to your question: Eh, 30% isn't too bad. You're still very soft and pliable at that range. Try to bring it down a bit, but you're close to the estimated range. Warming up has the tendency to do that sometimes. Your should be very limp to stretch.

One exception: If you're more of a shower than a grower, your perception of 30% may be a little higher than normal, but my interpretation of 30% is still a reasonably flaccid range for stretching.

When you're stretching in the beg. after doing the stretch and 25 kegels, how long should each circle take when you're doing 10 big circles to the left and 10 big circles to the right? 10 second circles? like really slow....or??

An exact count was never given. Just take 'em nice and slow and steady with constant tension throughout the entire circle. I would estimate that 5 seconds for a single circle would be an acceptable figure.
 

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Started on this today. Hopefully by the end f the 3 months I'll be at my girth goal and then can jus focus fully on erect length.

I'm at 5.75 inch grth just now so I am hoping the girth comes soon as you say thats the first thing to come so if I can get to 6 inches by the time i finish this program then I will be very pleased
 

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Hey guys, I'm new (just starting) and I have a few questions.

First: when doing the stretches and jelqing I notice that the skin of my pubic area pulls far out; I assume that is normal and okay, but should I be focusing to make sure that I feel the stretch in the actual shaft?

I am warming up and warming down appropiately and I believe I am doing the stretches okay; about the glands issue. I looked up a technique video for the jelq here: Wet Jelqing Video - Jelqing Exercise Video - Jelq Technique | MalesVue he goes over the glands at the end of the motion; is that okay?

Another question; when doing jelqs (and even stretches) i feel like i have to have a pretty firm grip to hold my shaft under the glands; is this okay? I am trying to be careful and I have not noticed any pain yet but I want to be extra careful that I am doing this right.

thanks in advanced guys!
 

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The skin above the penis does tend to stretch a bit under tension. Normal.

Don't jelq the glans. Someone else posted a video like that recently (I didn't watch either one), but your stop right below the glans.

Grip firmness during the stretch should be just enough so you don't slip. No more. If you can't get a good grip, make sure everything is dry or use something to enhance grip - like the fabric from a pair of boxers.

Firmly holding under the glans after each jelq stroke is more akin to an exercise called the Ultimate Jelq.
 

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The skin above the penis does tend to stretch a bit under tension. Normal.

Don't jelq the glans. Someone else posted a video like that recently (I didn't watch either one), but your stop right below the glans.

Grip firmness during the stretch should be just enough so you don't slip. No more. If you can't get a good grip, make sure everything is dry or use something to enhance grip - like the fabric from a pair of boxers.

Firmly holding under the glans after each jelq stroke is more akin to an exercise called the Ultimate Jelq.

Thanks a lot!

Two more quick questions; first, are there any warning signs or signals I should watch out for to prevent injury? Tightness or weakness or anything?

Second question: I find my right hand is more coordinated for the movements; but I think that my stretches are asymmetrical if i do not switch hands; is it common practice to switch hands for all exercises and does it have an notable effect?

thanks so much for the help