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So FBI and IRS agents that come forward with risk of prosecution if they tell falsehoods are monkeys? Not really kind. And of course they must be republican monkeys right?

Now in your way of thinking these guys must be republican that are bring forth all this info. Now if there are republican FBI and IRS guys logically there must be democrat ones as well and we know those democrats will not hide or omit things to protect their guy. That's a given!
 

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The IG has not looked into any of this material as of yet. What is wrong with simply asking questions and maybe getting an answer? We can ask any question about a Trump and demand an answer and if no answer is given then he's guilty but not for a Biden?
I think you just don't like the answers you're getting. The FBI investigated the whistleblower's claim and found nothing there. The House Intelligence Committee also found nothing after holding a hearing. And, if I'm not mistaken, the 9/2020 report by the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee also found no evidence to support the whistleblower's allegations.

As to Hunter (not a government employee, btw)... Isn't the IRS investigation into that actually ongoing?
 

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As to Hunter (not a government employee, btw)... Isn't the IRS investigation into that actually ongoing?
The Delaware Trump appointed DA, who was held over by Biden to finished his 5 year investigation agreed to accept a guilty plea from Hunter for tax evasion and lying about his drug use on a gun application. The IRS whistleblower investigation is in the hands of Jim Comey and Jim Jorden who have yet to produce any evidence.
 

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IRS agent tells House committee there was meddling with Hunter Biden case






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IRS agent tells House committee there was meddling with Hunter Biden case​

Published Thu, Jun 22 20236:35 PM EDTUpdated Thu, Jun 22 20236:43 PM EDT
NBC NEWS

Tom Winter
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Hunter Biden arrives at at Hancock Field Air National Guard Base after disembarking from Air Force One with his father, U.S. President Joe Biden, in Syracuse, New York, U.S., February 4, 2023. REUTERS/Elizabeth Frantz

Hunter Biden arrives at at Hancock Field Air National Guard Base after disembarking from Air Force One with his father, U.S. President Joe Biden, in Syracuse, New York, U.S., February 4, 2023.
Elizabeth Frantz | Reuters
A former IRS employee told the House Oversight Committee that U.S. Attorney David Weiss sought authority to charge Hunter Biden in two federal districts with charges broader than the tax-related misdemeanors that the president’s son agreed this week to plead guilty to, according to a 212-page transcript of his interview.
The whistleblower, Gary Shapely, says that Attorney General Merrick Garland was not telling Congress the truth in earlier testimony when he asserted that Weiss, who is based in Delaware, had the ability to charge in other jurisdictions, including California and Washington, D.C. Shapely said bringing charges in those districts is not something the U.S. Attorneys there, who were appointed by President Joe Biden, would do.

Shapley told the committee that as an investigator for the IRS, he obtained messages Hunter Biden sent on the WhatsApp platform, including one that he read demanding payment from a Chinese businessman named Henry Zhao. In that message, Hunter Biden appeared to suggest that he was sitting with his father, then the former vice president, saying, “I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction.”
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Shapley, who is a supervisory special agent with IRS criminal investigations and has worked for the agency since July 2009, testified in May and the committee made the transcript available on Thursday.
The Justice Department has insisted that Weiss, who remained the U.S. Attorney in Delaware after being appointed by former President Donald Trump, was allowed to act with independence and that no pressure was put on him to go easy on Hunter Biden.
Weiss’s office declined to comment, but pointed to his June 7th letter to the House Judiciary Committee in which he said his decisions were made independently.
“Throughout my tenure as U.S. Attorney my decisions have been made — and with respect to the matter must be made — without reference to political considerations,” Weiss wrote.

However, critics of the president have charged that he put his thumb on the scale in favor of his son and that Hunter Biden’s agreement to plead guilty to two misdemeanors and avoid jail time was a “sweetheart” deal.
In his opening statement before the Republican-controlled Oversight Committee, Shapely said, “I am alleging, with evidence, that DOJ provided preferential treatment, slow-walked the investigation, did nothing to avoid obvious conflicts of interest in this investigation.”
He added that “the investigation into Hunter Biden, code name Sportsman, was first opened in November 2018 as an offshoot of an investigation the IRS was conducting into a foreign-based amateur online pornography platform.”
Hunter Biden’s guilty plea was in connection to his 2017 and 2018 tax filings. But Shapley said he saw evidence that Hunter Biden should also have been charged in connection with his 2014 tax filing — a year that his father was vice president.
The Justice Department would have charged in “any other case I ever worked with similar fact patterns, similar acts of evasion and similar tax due and owing,” Shapley told the committee.
In the course of his interview with the House Ways and Means Committee he was shown an email — first reported on by NBC News in December — from Hunter Biden’s business associate stating that Hunter Biden needed to re-state his income on his tax returns in large part due to his Burisma payments.
Shapley said the email is important to that case, but that it was not brought because the statute of limitations was allowed to expire.
In addition, Shapely says efforts to search Biden-associated properties and a public relations firm named Blue Star Strategies were not approved. The latter, “was a significant blow to the Foreign Agents Registration Act piece of the investigation,” referring to the law which requires individuals working in the U.S. on behalf of foreign governments to register.
Shapely said he participated in the investigation of the 2018 tax filing. Court filings made in Delaware indicating that the a plea agreement is forthcoming have been sparse on detail, but Shapely testified under oath that Hunter Biden was listing personal expenses as business expenses.
“He was expensing personal expenses, his business expenses,” Shapley said. “So, I mean, everything, there was a payment that — there was a $25,000 to one of his girlfriends and it said, ‘golf membership.’ And then we went out and followed that money it was for a sex club membership in LA.”
Shapely says that travel costs to visit prostitutes were also improperly booked as business expenses.
He says that he thought it was valuable for the FBI and IRS to ask questions about the now infamous e-mail “10 for the big guy” an apparent reference to money for Joe Biden out of one of Hunter Biden’s attempted businesses with a Chinese firm.

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Alleged does not make it true.
 

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No one is aware of this?
People are aware. Shapley met with Congress (both D's and R's) for 6 hours. Like I said, his allegations have been and are being investigated. As much as I dislike President Biden, I don't know why people are so upset over this story. Hunter Biden isn't a government employee so it's not as though he was abusing office. Plus, pretty much everyone knows that the IRS doesn't go after the average citizen for the things they went after him for. You and I wouldn't have been subjected to what he was subjected to.
 

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People are aware. Shapley met with Congress (both D's and R's) for 6 hours. Like I said, his allegations have been and are being investigated. As much as I dislike President Biden, I don't know why people are so upset over this story. Hunter Biden isn't a government employee so it's not as though he was abusing office. Plus, pretty much everyone knows that the IRS doesn't go after the average citizen for the things they went after him for. You and I wouldn't have been subjected to what he was subjected to.
You telling me the IRS doesn't go after normal people like us for not reporting millions of dollars in income? Really? I don't know about you but I'd be in jail.

Oh yes he's a private citizen that got millions of money from smart business people from foreign countries who gave him millions because he's so smart and expected no special treatment from his father. Got it!
 

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You telling me the IRS doesn't go after normal people like us for not reporting millions of dollars in income? Really? I don't know about you but I'd be in jail.
That's my understanding, yes. Plenty of people avoid taxes in those amounts without becoming the subject of a national story on tax evasion. Maybe I'm wrong about that but it's always seemed like common knowledge to me that the IRS isn't investigating everyone like that.

Oh yes he's a private citizen that got millions of money from smart business people from foreign countries who gave him millions because he's so smart and expected no special treatment from his father. Got it!
Right. The corrupt family allegations that have been going on for years. If he was working deals for his corrupt dad, influencing foreign actors, etc, don't you think that by now it could have been proven? I mean, these allegations have been swirling for how long??? Whether it was expected to happen by those who paid him and whether it did are two different things, right? I guess the people who are so fascinated by him are the ones who desperately want for his dad to be corrupt.
 

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It's not about being proven. It's about being shielded.

I dont trust any politician on either side to be fair.

They should all hang
 

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They should all hang
Just like Trump‘s full page ad in 1989 calling for the death penalty for those involved in the Central Park Five case who were subsequently found not guilty and exonerated.
 

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I lived through; it happened not too far from where I lived. Not only did Trump want them dead but so did 3 million other New Yorkers. So what is your point?
 

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Just like Trump‘s full page ad in 1989 calling for the death penalty for those involved in the Central Park Five case who were subsequently found not guilty and exonerated.
Trump lives rent free in your head, lol
 

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I lived through; it happened not too far from where I lived. Not only did Trump want them dead but so did 3 million other New Yorkers. So what is your point?
Trump seems a little heavy handed when it comes to blacks accused of crimes against whites. The teens were deprived of water, food, and sleep for over 24 hours and subsequently recanted their confessions.
 

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Tell that to the jogger who was so horribly beaten she could only be indentified by her wedding ring. We were told these guys confessed; no one gave a rats ass what color they were. They were animals.
I guess it was Trumps fault they confessed to the crime. Really?? :unsure:
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You guys should see the statistics for white on black and black on white crime.
 

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Nah it's just s cheap shot about Trump being a racist. Funny seem like a lot of black folk don't think he's one. Hell Mike Tyson don't think he's one. It's just typical democratic slander because they can't win an election based on their record.
 

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Nah it's just s cheap shot about Trump being a racist. Funny seem like a lot of black folk don't think he's one. Hell Mike Tyson don't think he's one. It's just typical democratic slander because they can't win an election based on their record.
Nice upstanding choice of supporters. I’m surprised you didn’t choose Kanye who brought Nick Fuentes to dine with Trump.
 

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