Is anyone else worried? (Covid Vaccine)

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If I have a heart condition I've been managing for years and could have lived with many more years, but I got Covid and died a month later, I would attribute that death to Covid.
That's reasonable. But since the same doesn't happen with the flu - in the case of the flu, the cause of death would have been cardiac - COVID has the appearance of being much more dangerous. If we counted flu cases and deaths of people who have the flu the same way they're tallying up COVID, we'd live under eternal lockdown.
 
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Please reread my post. I specifically said the mask is a proven way to prevent the transmission of COVID and helpful to reducing the inhalation of the virus.

The CDC report confirms both aspects.
I reread what the CDC said and saw that I missed the line where they said it reduces inhalation. Gotcha.

FWIW... Recent studies like I pointed to (the CDC isn't doing studies of this) show that it's ineffective for the wearer. Of course, I am 100% cool with you wearing a mask to protect yourself if that's what you feel is happening. I do have an issue, however, with authorities like the CDC telling people that a mask will protect them despite evidence to the contrary. It creates a false sense of security for the wearer who might take on added risk because they feel the mask is a good barrier.
 

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I reread what the CDC said and saw that I missed the line where they said it reduces inhalation. Gotcha.

FWIW... Recent studies like I pointed to (the CDC isn't doing studies of this) show that it's ineffective for the wearer. Of course, I am 100% cool with you wearing a mask to protect yourself if that's what you feel is happening. I do have an issue, however, with authorities like the CDC telling people that a mask will protect them despite evidence to the contrary. It creates a false sense of security for the wearer who might take on added risk because they feel the mask is a good barrier.
As I mentioned, I primarily wear a mask to protect others, but hopefully it will reduce my chances of being infected, which is what the CDC is preaching.
 

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The vaccine will be fine and it will never be mandatory. That's kind of un constitutional. The media has made a big hype over this because they wanted to and it will continue until shortly after the inauguration.

I hope it isn't mandatory and would see lots of civil unrest if they tried, but they've done a good job making many vaccines mandatory for children by not letting them go to schools or many doctors not seeing kids that are not vaccinated. So they could try something along those lines, or make it hard to get a job or travel without one.
 

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I will never take that vaccine
 

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You all realise there are a number of different vaccines made by different companies in different locations all over the world?
 

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You all realise there are a number of different vaccines made by different companies in different locations all over the world?

You realize that the US is the last country to become democratic (eventually socialist)? This is all New World Order. They are trying to get us to conform. With the election having to be frauded they know most Americans aren't going to stand for this sh*t, so they will give us a vaccine and put something in it to make us "obey".
This all started with the Obama Administration saying "change is good", that was the beginning, then with Trump winning they had to force his ass out of office and so they used the Russia Collusion and impeachment which failed. Next they frauded the election. Covid was manufactured in a lab with a multi purpose agenda.. kill of the Social Security collecting old people, then use it as anl agenda to control the population, mortality wise and influential wise. Now all they have to do is drug us so we conform to this agenda. Eventually the US will lose their free speech too. The Constitution will be burned. All future elections will be frauded. I have to atleast hand it radical leftists, atleast they are ballsy enough to go out and make a difference, us cowardly Republicans will stay back and bitch about it like I am doing now,... or perhaps not for long....

Don't be surprised if you see on the news the US having a legit Civil War, with the media stirring up waters anything is possible,
Atleast that's my conspiracy theory...
 
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These conspiracy theories the US members keep coming up with go down a treat with our international members .
 

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These conspiracy theories the US members keep coming up with go down a treat with our international members .
Maybe that RK just got me...
 

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Republic of Korea or reverse kegels?
 

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I do find it interesting that before the election everyone wanted schools closed although we knew it was safer for kids to be in school than being home. Now after the election it's great that the schools are open.
 

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My wife is diabetic, suffers with asthma and COPD, and recently turned 75 can’t wait to get vaccinated. I’ll wait a few months to make sure there are no side effects.
 

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I've never taken a flu shot nor will I take a Covid vaccine. The last time I was sick was in 2006, 2011, and 2014. Even then that was because I was under enormous amounts of stress.

I will never take that vaccine
 

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I think I'm the only person where I work that hasn't been sick with Covid. I think my co workers all had it before we knew what was going on back around November and December of last year...
 

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Many of the conspiracy theories have shown themselves to come true in the US.

We are in the throws of a modern day Bolshevik revolution
 

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Many of the conspiracy theories have shown themselves to come true in the US.

We are in the throws of a modern day Bolshevik revolution
More like a move away from an autocratic administration.
 

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