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amiok.. stop taking yourself so seriously. I've just re-read this thread, and to my mind it's a $1000 course in confidence and girl gettting. Everyone is saying the same thing too! did you notice that?

I don't want to hear another peep out of you on this thread unless you can come back on here and tell us a story about how you went up to a good looking girl and made conversation. You didn't try to pick them up, you were just friendly and fun, they responded, and you moved on, said "it was a pleasure to meet you (guys)" and felt good about yourself.
 

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Yea. To clarify most things that swim in my head aren't of my own thinking. I mean I was told I was ugly by girls a number of times. So, I mean I look at myself and go yea they must be right.


dude, when i was growing up i was a ginger freckle faced looser who got beaten up every day. i was turned donw and called ugly by any girl i approached. guess what, im glad i did, because now im older, im by far more better looking and all the good looking girls got fat. i feel great about myself. i once saw a girl in a club who i always fancied in school. she turned me down every time i asked. so years later when i see her in the club and she got "fat"..she stars chatting to me and talking about how i used to fancy her. i knew where it was headed so i told her "woundnt fancy you now if you were the last woman alive, your just a fat dog"

she cried and walked off and i went about my business of socialising.

if you really want to find a girl all you have to do make friends with them. dont go out purposly to look for a girlfriend. you should go out to make firends and enjoy yourself.

how many sleeze bags do you think try it on with these girls on a daily basis? you might just be that one guys who isnt a sleeze that all the ladys love.

it worked for me when i was younger and it still works for me now.
 
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... i knew where it was headed so i told her "woundnt fancy you now if you were the last woman alive, your just a fat dog"

she cried and walked off and i went about my business of socialising.

Mate, that wasn't very nice :(
 

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That's not what i'm trying to say man, we're trying to help you, there is no need to be so rude.

How was I being rude? Just stated a fact man, I have no life lol.
 

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I don't want to hear another peep out of you on this thread unless you can come back on here and tell us a story about how you went up to a good looking girl and made conversation. You didn't try to pick them up, you were just friendly and fun, they responded, and you moved on, said "it was a pleasure to meet you (guys)" and felt good about yourself.

If that happens I will tell you.
 

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I made some progress. :D Not sure if I came off as a creep, though I doubt it.

Eye contact has improved and I make some of them laugh (perhaps they were just being nice?)
 

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This is almost sad to read because it hits home to me so much. And hate to say it- No amount of advice will help you because at this point it seems you won't apply it (just going by experience here). At the end of the day, you know your faults and exactly what you should or need to do to improve your situation, yet you ignore it. I ask, is this you? Am I being too bold?

I honestly don't know the answer. It seems like such an extreme lack of confidence or self worth, more so, in feeling that you don't even deserve a women. It is frustrating, but the problem at hand is not so simple, so I feel for you.

Yeah, some guys- it is just shyness and lack of experience w/ communicating with girls and that is hard but can be fixed fairly readily.

Unfortunately in regards to this, all the advice from friends, etc can't really help someone's self worth or confidence.

Having said that, a start really is getting some hobbies and getting into some sports. You really do have to start enjoying yourself to some extent and doing things you like. Explore areas and learn them.
 
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I don't want to hear another peep out of you on this thread unless you can come back on here and tell us a story about how you went up to a good looking girl and made conversation. You didn't try to pick them up, you were just friendly and fun, they responded, and you moved on, said "it was a pleasure to meet you (guys)" and felt good about yourself.

Well, there is a hot girl I do talk to. Does that count?
 

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With me i dont have much experience, but i do go out from time to time with girls. the thing is, just dont directly treat it as a date. if that makes sense lol. when i chat with girls, i normally just throw in a causal "wanna go to this party?" , "im hungry, wanna go get something to eat?", or "lets go get some coffee". Even if its for 10 mins alone one on one, its not quiet a date, but its an improvement from having zero experience. Baby step i suppose, so be spontaneous, if u ever see a girl you know already in the town or the city or something just drop a quick, "wanna grab something to drink?" this will eventually build up confidence for being alone with someone, even if its for a short time. after that you can other girls out for a bit "longer" date such as dinner and movies
 
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Repped.

You see, you say that's a baby step... but that's all I do, and it's all you need to do! The only difference - if there is one - is that with more confidence you'll get a bit cheekier and chance your arm a bit more, keeping yourself firmly out of the friend zone and happily sitting in the "damn right I want more" zone. Plus, if you're not agressively chasing pussy, but just having fun, it's a refreshing change for most girls from the usual attention they get.

The whole notion of "dating" and "asking girls out" freaks most of us out. Introducing yourself to *anyone* out of the blue is a unique scenario. First impressions count, and what impression do you want to leave? It's far easier to ask somebody out if you've already enjoyed each other's company for a bit. Consider how weird it must be to have a stranger wander over and ask you to dinner or a movie. Chances are I'd probably say no to 99% of people too. That's why I don't do it. I mean sure, there's some playful innocence in going through that whole nervous "does she/doesn't she" process you have at high school - but leave it at high school, you're a grown up now. Meet people, have fun. don't expect anything from them, just enjoy whatever makes them unique. And tell them if that's what you think. Often.
 

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This might help you amiok: Lair List - Official List of Worldwide PUA Lairs

You'll meet a lot of like minded guys to go out with and meet girls. In my experience it gave me that extra "push" I needed in the beginning to gain more confidence with women.The most important thing though was gaining overall confidence in myself. These meetings are FREE (or should be like $5 or something) except for the occasional guess speaker ($20+ or something)and of course any clubs fees if that's where you guys decide to go. After you get comfortable in your own skin you can stop going to the meetings all together if you choose.
 
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However, one of these girls I think likes me. Stress think haha. Now my dilemma is how do I know if she does?

update.

Well today I hung out with this girl after school and went out for lunch. She gave me her number afterwards. I'm still not sure if she likes me like that, but this seems like a step.
 

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update.

Well today I hung out with this girl after school and went out for lunch. She gave me her number afterwards. I'm still not sure if she likes me like that, but this seems like a step.

If she gives you your number, you're in. Here's what you need to do: take it step by step, and don't take your "performance" too seriously. The first time you WILL suck anyway, no matter how you prepaire yourself. You'll make mistakes, there will be akward moments, there is no way around it. This is so great about life, that afterwards you will look back and laugh at the mistakes you made. But of course, try to learn from all the things that went wrong ;)

Life is a learning process, so is sex. Remember how you felt the first time you took the wheel of a car.

Cheers,

Johnny B
 

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If she gives you your number, you're in. Here's what you need to do: take it step by step, and don't take your "performance" too seriously. The first time you WILL suck anyway, no matter how you prepaire yourself. You'll make mistakes, there will be akward moments, there is no way around it. This is so great about life, that afterwards you will look back and laugh at the mistakes you made. But of course, try to learn from all the things that went wrong ;)

Life is a learning process, so is sex. Remember how you felt the first time you took the wheel of a car.

Cheers,

Johnny B

Haha, you think so? Yea she actually texted me a little while ago. Might go out with her(and I think her friends) later.
 

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Haha, you think so? Yea she actually texted me a little while ago. Might go out with her(and I think her friends) later.

Disregard the last part haha
 

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Good for you...Keep it up

Thanks. Kinda blew it though. She wanted me to go out last night, but I kinda chickened out because I would have to drive into the city and I'm a suburbs guy. Of course I did haha.
 

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This isn't entirely true anymore :D.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/relationship-forum/26416-do-you-think-shes-interested.html
 

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The gave you her number and text you? Good signs. :)
 

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Ladies, what do you think truthfully about a man in his 20's who has zero experience with women? I mean zero, never been on a date nor had a random kiss from a drunk girl, nothing. What advice would you give this guy? Guys, ya'll can give me advice too if ya want. Thanks.

No big deal.I do not have that much experience also, but I do not let it get me down at the end of the day.
But I all ready had my first kiss and a bit of what would be considered foreplay. That was when I was 14 at a party.
By 17 my self esteem and self-confidence, where in the crapper and stayed that way tell I turned 22 .Even though I was asked out by girls , I would declined them. To this day I can not believe I did that.. Right now my self esteem and self-confidence is fine way higher then it was before it crashed..... I turned 22 about 9 months ago..


Right now I am not wasting my time looking as I am going back to school in a week and will be going out of state.
 
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