FOCUS YOUR PE & GAIN! TGC Theory Explained!

[serek]

I really like the idea of this "theory". I wanted some opinions. Been PEing for a couple years on and off gained only .5 inch in length. Tried alot of stuff ,advanced exercises, but decided to take time off then start from scratch. I have less than a month left with JP90 and really haven't gained much but my workouts are going very well great expansion ,very good erection quality, stamina through the roof. Determined that my Tunica is the limiting factor on account that my erections are 9-10 consistently. After JP90, I wanted to change it up some. I really want to gain girth (get to that 6+ range at 5.2 now) but don't want to give up on length(Get over 8+in at 7.5-6 now). So was thinking of 60% length 40%girth routine.

Tell me what you think:

100 JAI stretch (warm-up)
Basic JP90 stretches
O-Bends
3-5x 30sec Bundle stretch (not sure how many to do)
300 total Wet jelqs
**180 V-Jelqs (Not sure whether to do away with these for now since they really target smooth muscle well)**
End with 20-30 min edging

2 days On 1 Off

Be great to hear people's opinion. Been PEing for a while. Be nice to start gaining again. Thanks.

osj,
in some ways your situation is like mine, however. I have just started PE'ing. I tried jelqing a few years ago, but didn't stick with it. I am fairly certain my limiting factor is the tunica, as my BPEL is 5.2 and BPFSL is 4.8. I have already hit 5 with my BPFSL.

Your routine sounds good (although I am no expect by any means). My understanding of TGC theory is the difference in measurement between EL and FSL will help determine your limiting factor.

I now believe I am one of those in the middle and after my 90 days, I will do as you, mix both girth and length.

 

[osj1305]

Yes, my BPEL is .25 less then BPFSL. Making Tunica my limiting factor.

 

[strong_root]

Hey guys,

Newbie here. I started JP's 90-day newbie routine on a 1-day on/ 1-day off basis and noticed some evident flaccid size gains and erect girth gains after only about 45 days. But my EQ went down proportionally (maybe from 9.5 to 5). I stopped everything for about a week, and while I see my EQ get back to normal, I also see some of those size gains decrease.

At this point now, my erections are around 8.5 (recovering, should be better next days), but BPEL and BPFSL are very similar. I haven't measured them while I was bigger and softer, but apart from this, everything points to the tunica expanding and not being caught up by the smooth muscle. Does that make any sense?

I'm also reading through the pelvic floor balance thing, maybe that was the cause of loss in the EQ. Well, I say that because I'm actually not that of a newbie, I had tried PE a couple of times before a few years ago and got the same results: great size increases with loss of EQ. It's so frustrating because I got so happy with my bigger unit but didn't have the power to use it lol. After I stopped, size gains decreased a bit and EQ got back. So I decided to stick with an average but hard one at the time.

But right now, I'm determined to find a routine that Works for me. There must be a way to gain size and maintain or improve EQ. BTW, this year I tried kegelling with nice results in the beggining but ended up overtraining, so I stopped everything for two weeks and things got back to normal.

So, how do you suggest I find out if my problem is proper kegeling/pelivc floor balance or the tunica/smooth mucle thing?

Also, any suggestions for girth exercises for the smooth muscle for a newbie? I'm adopting the less is more approach, so I'm threading lightly and safely.

(sorry for the long post but I thought it was relevant to include all this info on myself).

Great gains everyone!

 

[lowpang]

I honestly don't understand how your BPFSL is smaller than your BPEL… or even the how this is possible.
I know people do on occasion have a longer BPEL, I just don't understand.

 

[lowpang]

I wish I had erections like that

 

[strong_root]

I honestly don't understand how your BPFSL is smaller than your BPEL… or even the how this is possible.
I know people do on occasion have a longer BPEL, I just don't understand.

Hi Lowpang,
I think my BPFSL and BPEL are about the same size, but I just started measuring myself, so I might have got it wrong. Either way, the difference should be at most in the 0.5 interval.

My EQ have increased from about 5 to about 8-8.5 in a week's rest, but it changes throughout the days, actually, especially in a recovery period like this one.

I decided to work on balancing my pelvic floor for two-three weeks before trying other PE exercises. But when I start, I'll go at low intensity, and try to focus more on smooth muscle exercises.

Do you have a kegel routine?

And for you and anyone reading this thread, any suggestions for smooth muscle exercises for newbies are welcome! Thanks

 

[lowpang]

Wow nice improvement in EQ!!!
Keep doing what is working for you, I think when you are doing something that works for you, keep doing it till it doesn't work any more.

I only seem to kegel when pumping or Jelqing… lately it has been pretty slow, probably only once a week!!!
I'm not planning on kicking up a notch for another month, maybe 6 weeks.

As far as smooth muscle goes, try one of the best and cheapest things out there… A cable clamp!!!
I prefer a pump, but most will say a clamp is the best, I just haven't had the best of luck with a clamp…

 

[strong_root]

haha yes, it was a nice improvement in EQ really, but I wasn't doing anything, just resting and edging...but it is not consistent...today I woke up to something like 5.5 in the morning wood, then tried edging this afternoon and got like a 6.5 (with a slight discomfort in the pelvic floor area).

Not sure what's causing these variations but I decided to stop everything, including edging/masturbation for a week and see what happens. Then work on pelvic floor balance, then PE for smooth muscle. Long road ahead...I think I might start a log.

I was looking for smooth muscle exercises without using any kind of device. I am afraid of hurting myself with them and plus I'd have to hide them around because I do not live alone. Any suggestions?

 

[lowpang]

Im wondering if testosterone levels have something to do with this…
I've been having low-T symptoms for a while and also lower EQ…
do you think the same applies to you?
I'm considering testosterone therapy and will be documenting my results soon ( in just over a month I will be starting )

 

[strong_root]

Hey lowpang,
sorry it took so long to reply, but no, I have not noticed any kind of low-T signs. Actually, I have improved a few higher-T signs, like increased sex drive. I have done a bit of research into foods and exercises that promote some increase in T-levels and it seems to be working, if u want to know more just msg me. As for my situation, after this resting period things went back to normal (EQ 7-8, normal morning wood, etc) and now Im starting a light pelvic exercise routine.

Have you tried PC muscle exercises? If done correctly they can really help. I my case, I have to watch out for overtraining, or flexing too hard, I discovered that after giving a few different attempts. But doing them lightly seems to be working just fine now! Today I had a couple of spontaneous erections and one of them reached about 8.5. I intend to keep it this way until I have reached a plateau, then move on gently.

Take care in your treatment, Im no expert but messing with could be dangerous.

 

[colorblind72]

I have applied this theory to my PE and the progress has been pretty amazing.
The distance between my BPFSL and my BPEL has decreased.
And my overall length has increased.
See my log for details.

 

[iwantgirthbadly]

Finding this theory might have just saved my PE career... Details below.

I've been mostly jelqing (at higher erection to focus on girth) for 3 months, no gains in length or girth. Though if I had EQ of 8-9 before, it's as close to 10 as it gets now. My hard-ons point consistently straight up at the ceiling.

Have my gains been limited because tunica has been my limit? Based on the OP... yes. But my real question is: if I change to length-based exercises, to stretch out my tunica, will I finally start seeing some length and girth gains? Should I also be doing my jelq's at a lower erection level as well?

For more info: I just measured my BPFSL, and it's *at best* 0.1" greater than my BPEL. It's probably exactly the same unless I stretch to it's maximal point.

 

[sidneycrosby]

Finding this theory might have just saved my PE career... Details below.

I've been mostly jelqing (at higher erection to focus on girth) for 3 months, no gains in length or girth. Though if I had EQ of 8-9 before, it's as close to 10 as it gets now. My hard-ons point consistently straight up at the ceiling.

Have my gains been limited because tunica has been my limit? Based on the OP... yes. But my real question is: if I change to length-based exercises, to stretch out my tunica, will I finally start seeing some length and girth gains? Should I also be doing my jelq's at a lower erection level as well?

For more info: I just measured my BPFSL, and it's *at best* 0.1" greater than my BPEL. It's probably exactly the same unless I stretch to it's maximal point.

Exercises I recommend for the tunica:
Beginner exercises: tunica tugs
Intermediate: Bundled fowfers
Expert (do not try these unless you are a conditioned PE veteran): bundled stretches, bundled LAS

 

[Jay1983]

Fulcrum stretches?

:noidea:

 

[sidneycrosby]

Fulcrum stretches?

:noidea:

That reminds me I have to check your log!

 

[Jay1983]

That reminds me I have to check your log!

My log.. bahaha

 

[sidneycrosby]

My log.. bahaha

:bad:uke:

 

[Jay1983]

So I guess that since my BPFSL is greater than my BPEL I should be focusing on my tunica? How does one do that? Where the heck is the tunica? What is the tunica?

 

[sidneycrosby]

So I guess that since my BPFSL is greater than my BPEL I should be focusing on my tunica? How does one do that? Where the heck is the tunica? What is the tunica?

Tunica is a myth. They say it's found in the penis but that's complete rubbish; only thing in there is a bone. Hence "boner".
Goodnight all!

 

[Jay1983]

Tunica is a myth. They say it's found in the penis but that's complete rubbish; only thing in there is a bone. Hence "boner".
Goodnight all!

Lmao. I have it all backwards. I need to target smooth muscle. :noidea: