Elon Musk

[4Samson]

Social Security Fraud is Rampant! With Democrats and the Liberal Media spouting BS about the threat to Social Security?

Any thoughts on my post about Musk and Trump lying directly to you about how they stopped millions of Americans ages 150-300 from receiving fraudulent payments when more than a decade ago a law was passed and implemented that all social security benefits past/present/future are automatically terminated at age 115? This has all been audited and confirmed several times already, as recently as 2023. Musk/Trump are lying directly to you about the vampire payments and that is their biggest claim of fraud in social security. Why continue to listen to them blindly when they lie directly to your face about verifiable facts?

 

[Willie Dole]

If you think that I believe that or that I'm a Republican, myself, you haven't been paying attention.

I try to not make assumptions, sorry if I offended you. Some centrist dems think republicans like Susan Colins and Lisa Murkowski are not the same as Linsey Gram or Marjorie Green, but they will tow the party line al the same.
On the internet, no one knows you are really a dog in trench coat

 

[Johnny D]

I try to not make assumptions, sorry if I offended you. Some centrist dems think republicans like Susan Colins and Lisa Murkowski are not the same as Linsey Gram or Marjorie Green, but they will tow the party line al the same.
On the internet, no one knows you are really a dog in trench coat

You didn't offend me. That's pretty tough to do so no worries. But I don't make a statement from one side of the aisle and am not arguing in favor of the efforts of DOGE for the same reasons so many Republicans do - simply because they support pretty much anything that their party tells them to support. I'm also arguing against tariffs, but not doing so simply because I'm not a Republican and that's what you're supposed to do if you're not a Republican. I'm attempting to engage my brain on all the issues, without regard for which party supports or opposes them, and am only interested in a responsible government whose role is simply to protect the rights - freedom and liberty - of the people.

 

[akaTrex]

Any thoughts on my post about Musk and Trump lying directly to you about how they stopped millions of Americans ages 150-300 from receiving fraudulent payments when more than a decade ago a law was passed and implemented that all social security benefits past/present/future are automatically terminated at age 115? This has all been audited and confirmed several times already, as recently as 2023. Musk/Trump are lying directly to you about the vampire payments and that is their biggest claim of fraud in social security. Why continue to listen to them blindly when they lie directly to your face about verifiable facts?

LOL, and Biden and Mayorkas claimed the Border was Closed!

Trump and Elon Derangement Syndrome is living Free in Democrats and LibTards Minds!

 

[CUSP82]

Any thoughts on my post about Musk and Trump lying directly to you about how they stopped millions of Americans ages 150-300 from receiving fraudulent payments when more than a decade ago a law was passed and implemented that all social security benefits past/present/future are automatically terminated at age 115? This has all been audited and confirmed several times already, as recently as 2023. Musk/Trump are lying directly to you about the vampire payments and that is their biggest claim of fraud in social security. Why continue to listen to them blindly when they lie directly to your face about verifiable facts?

Lie to me? Like the border was secure, oh we can't secure the border without Congress and the laptop was Russian. You mean like that?

 

[Willie Dole]

Lie to me? Like the border was secure, oh we can't secure the border without Congress and the laptop was Russian. You mean like that?

pure what-about-ism, does not address the lie being discussed.

The laptop's chain of custody was not verifiable and showed signs of digital manipulation before it was given to the DoJ. The repair shop owner who was shorted the repair fee was within his right (having waited the required 30 days) to take adverse possession of the laptop. But there was 4+ months of it floating around before it was actually handed over to the proper authorities. And with Rudy Julie being the main guy who was said to be in possession of it, it made most people very skeptical about it's authenticity at first.
The content was copied and nude photos illegally show (literally revenge porn done by MTG in congressional meetings), so no media with a legal department wanted to touch it with a 10' pole because they could say something defamatory about the president's son.
Has Hunter tried to leverage his position as the son of a VP and then P? Absolutely, and if illegal, should be punished for it. But there was no evidence that Biden tried to help him outside of what any loving father would do for their drug-addicted son. Joey B never used his office to stop or derail the prosecution of his only living son. Joey B did try to stem the influx of immigrants, but was stopped by the SC from ending Title 42, a law that was prohibiting him from taking other actions on immigration (mostly in regard to asylum seekers) because it was based on a national health emergency. And only Congress can confirm and provide the funding for more judges to handle the large number of cases, seems like an easy fix that no one wants to start making any real progress on because it's allowed both sides to fight their culture wars.

 

[CUSP82]

So Biden couldn't stop the influx but Trump did; I know he cheated.
As for the laptop even liberals admit it was his.
Now why are you mad at Musk?

 

[Johnny D]

no one wants to start making any real progress on because it's allowed both sides to fight their culture wars.

You and I actually do agree on something

 

[Willie Dole]

Now why are you mad at Musk?

First and foremost, because he is an awful father. But besides that, he has no right to do the things he is doing, he has and will continue to use his position (having paid for it) to try to make himself richer at the expense of innocent government employees, American history and tradition, the rest of the US taxpayers, he is creepy, he is homophobic, racist and against LGBTQ+ rights, lies about being good at video games for internet points, is chronically on twitter, antisemitic, cringe AF (as the kids say these days), and a whole long list of other awful things a person can be.

my pros on Musk, to be fair, are that he had the foresight to combine his original X.com company (just an online service) with another digital payment site to form what we have today as PayPal. It was a huge leap in trust and security for e-commerce that they really needed in the late '90s and early 00's, especially when the first ".com bubble" burst and trust was at an all time low. He, and his fellow executives at PayPal, basically made website giants like eBay and Amazon possible because there was now some trust that your credit card wasn't just being stolen and you get nothing sent to you.
I have not seen a smart move since. He bought Tesla and filled it with yes-people (too many of whom he would later have a or two with), and keeps messing with the stock price because he has made himself the public figurehead but is awful at PR. He bought twitter and turned it into a far more deranged, racist cesspool dominated by modern Nazis, all so he could feel good about how many people are forced to see his tweets. He takes things that are working and breaks them so they serve his childish needs.

Dude NEEDS therapy.

 

[Johnny D]

First and foremost, because he is an awful father. But besides that, he has no right to do the things he is doing, he has and will continue to use his position (having paid for it) to try to make himself richer at the expense of innocent government employees, American history and tradition, the rest of the US taxpayers, he is creepy, he is homophobic, racist and against LGBTQ+ rights, lies about being good at video games for internet points, is chronically on twitter, antisemitic, cringe AF (as the kids say these days), and a whole long list of other awful things a person can be.

my pros on Musk, to be fair, are that he had the foresight to combine his original X.com company (just an online service) with another digital payment site to form what we have today as PayPal. It was a huge leap in trust and security for e-commerce that they really needed in the late '90s and early 00's, especially when the first ".com bubble" burst and trust was at an all time low. He, and his fellow executives at PayPal, basically made website giants like eBay and Amazon possible because there was now some trust that your credit card wasn't just being stolen and you get nothing sent to you.
I have not seen a smart move since. He bought Tesla and filled it with yes-people (too many of whom he would later have a or two with), and keeps messing with the stock price because he has made himself the public figurehead but is awful at PR. He bought twitter and turned it into a far more deranged, racist cesspool dominated by modern Nazis, all so he could feel good about how many people are forced to see his tweets. He takes things that are working and breaks them so they serve his childish needs.

Dude NEEDS therapy.

All the personal stuff aside... He absolutely has the right to "do the things he's doing". He's an advisor to the President.

 

[Willie Dole]

He absolutely has the right to "do the things he's doing". He's an advisor to the President.

No one has the right to break the law, and I think most (not all) of the firings/layoffs.

The stopping of payments approved by Congress have a legal path to be impounded by the Executive branch that is not being taken. If a payment or contract or other funds are thought to be part of "fraud against the American people" (their claim), it must be investigated and the process started (i dont know every step) on an individual basis (that I do know).

The people (kids really) sent by Musk, who where given access to the SSNs and other personal information held by the government, do not have the clearance or background checks or vetting that every other gov employee with that access to that information would have had to go through. This is how spies get in, some kid has $25k in debt but access to (probably minor) information and a foreign actor offers them enough money that they are willing to risk it.
There was even a recent case of this:

US Army soldiers in Oregon and Washington indicted for theft of top-secret documents

Sgt. Jian Zhao and 1st Lt. Li Tian were both serving as active duty U.S. Army soldiers at Washington’s Joint Base Lewis-McChord. Ruoyu Duan is a former U.S. Army soldier living in Hillsboro. All three were arrested Thursday, according to the U.S. Department of Justice.

www.opb.org

An advisor to the president does not have authority over the entire executive branch, this shouldn't be Aladdin with the idiot Sultan and his advisor real power behind the throne, Jafar. We already had 8 years of that with Bush/Cheney!
Trump is just to lazy learn what needs to be done and to do it, and instead outsourced the work to an immigrant, how poetic......

 

[4Samson]

LOL, and Biden and Mayorkas claimed the Border was Closed!

Trump and Elon Derangement Syndrome is living Free in Democrats and LibTards Minds!

Are you aware that months prior to the election congress had come to a bipartisan agreement that included the republican demands for securing the border? When they were finally getting their deal that they had publicly been demanding, Trump told them all not to secure the border because he needs the border to be a campaign issue. They then did a 180, switched sides and the Republicans in congress removed securing the border from the deal. There are cameras in congress you know, what goes on is all public information. You seem uninformed about a lot of what has taken place in your country.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/25/politics/gop-senators-angry-trump-immigration-deal/index.html

 

[4Samson]

LOL, and Biden and Mayorkas claimed the Border was Closed!

Trump and Elon Derangement Syndrome is living Free in Democrats and LibTards Minds!

Sorry to double quote you but I am still trying to understand your response. Does that mean you do not believe that there is already a law that ends social security benefits automatically at age 115? You do not believe it even though it is public information and record that can be verified over and over again forever? I am trying very hard to understand your mindset.

 

[Willie Dole]

Sorry to double quote you but I am still trying to understand your response. Does that mean you do not believe that there is already a law that ends social security benefits automatically at age 115? You do not believe it even though it is public information and record that can be verified over and over again forever? I am trying very hard to understand your mindset.

I find it strange people still think that TDS is like a real thing and calling people who have empathy for others libtards actually makes us angry. I think their mindset is largely based on not being able to say they were wrong. Many conservatives, particularly those who would cite Kirkland brand Ben Shapiro, have made the culture war red meat fed to them by conservative media their whole identity; and they have the audacity to say dems only care about identity politics.
I welcome anyone who is willing to acknowledge they are wrong about trump/maga without shame, and try not to ridicule them because they will need support to get out of the cult. The same way you might help someone out of an MLM or Jones Town v5 or whatever, compassion helps more than judgement.
That's my thoughts on their mindset anyways.

 

[Johnny D]

No one has the right to break the law, and I think most (not all) of the firings/layoffs.

The stopping of payments approved by Congress have a legal path to be impounded by the Executive branch that is not being taken. If a payment or contract or other funds are thought to be part of "fraud against the American people" (their claim), it must be investigated and the process started (i dont know every step) on an individual basis (that I do know).

The people (kids really) sent by Musk, who where given access to the SSNs and other personal information held by the government, do not have the clearance or background checks or vetting that every other gov employee with that access to that information would have had to go through. This is how spies get in, some kid has $25k in debt but access to (probably minor) information and a foreign actor offers them enough money that they are willing to risk it.
There was even a recent case of this:

US Army soldiers in Oregon and Washington indicted for theft of top-secret documents

Sgt. Jian Zhao and 1st Lt. Li Tian were both serving as active duty U.S. Army soldiers at Washington’s Joint Base Lewis-McChord. Ruoyu Duan is a former U.S. Army soldier living in Hillsboro. All three were arrested Thursday, according to the U.S. Department of Justice.

www.opb.org

An advisor to the president does not have authority over the entire executive branch, this shouldn't be Aladdin with the idiot Sultan and his advisor real power behind the throne, Jafar. We already had 8 years of that with Bush/Cheney!
Trump is just to lazy learn what needs to be done and to do it, and instead outsourced the work to an immigrant, how poetic......

The White House has the approval and Musk is an advisor. He doesn't have the authority to and doesn't make unilateral decisions. The decisions to stop payments, etc are made by Trump, not by Musk.

"Outsourced the work to an immigrant"??? Are you serious with that?! Do you know how many presidents rely on advisors? Or is it that you have a problem with people who weren't born in the US?

The question of security clearance was debated during the Obama administration (I'm sure you were just as upset about Huma Aberdin's access then, right?!). If there is improper access or even conflict of interest, as I've said before, it needs to be addressed and is a concern. However, you're throwing a big fat "clearance blanket" over the whole thing without understanding that it's not just like that. Not each and every employee has to have the same clearance. And, BTW... With all the govt work that SpaceX has done, many (most?) of their employees have certain clearance already.

 

[akaTrex]

Are you aware that months prior to the election congress had come to a bipartisan agreement that included the republican demands for securing the border? When they were finally getting their deal that they had publicly been demanding, Trump told them all not to secure the border because he needs the border to be a campaign issue. They then did a 180, switched sides and the Republicans in congress removed securing the border from the deal. There are cameras in congress you know, what goes on is all public information. You seem uninformed about a lot of what has taken place in your country.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/25/politics/gop-senators-angry-trump-immigration-deal/index.html

The so-called "Border Bill" would allow THOUSANDS of Illegals to cross into the USA. In violation of 8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien!

One provision in the bill gave authority to shut down the border, which wouldn’t kick in until the seven-day average number of cumulative encounters with inadmissible migrants is between 4,000 and 5,000 per day. And it would be discretionary unless the seven-day average is above 5,000 per day. The BIDEN administration would have the discretion to catch and release up to 5,000 inadmissible migrants per day — almost 2 million per year.

Biden and Democrats claimed we needed Legislation to close the border. Biden OPENED the Border with a stroke of a pen, and All it took was a Stroke of Donald Trump's Pen to Close the Border!

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/4455506-breaking-down-the-senate-border-bill-and-why-it-has-no-chance-of-passing/

 

[akaTrex]

I find it strange people still think that TDS is like a real thing and calling people who have empathy for others libtards actually makes us angry. I think their mindset is largely based on not being able to say they were wrong. Many conservatives, particularly those who would cite Kirkland brand Ben Shapiro, have made the culture war red meat fed to them by conservative media their whole identity; and they have the audacity to say dems only care about identity politics.
I welcome anyone who is willing to acknowledge they are wrong about trump/maga without shame, and try not to ridicule them because they will need support to get out of the cult. The same way you might help someone out of an MLM or Jones Town v5 or whatever, compassion helps more than judgement.
That's my thoughts on their mindset anyways.

Elon Derangement Syndrome aka EDS is alive and well. A-Holes committing ARSON by throwing Molotov Cocktails at Tesla Dealerships and committing ARSON at Tesla Charging Stations?

https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/multiple-vehicles-set-on-fire-at-tesla-center-in-las-vegas-police-say/

Add LibTard Obama appointed Judges and the so-called ACLU, attempting to block Legal Deportations under US Law.
Don't like or disagree with the Law then Change It through Legislation!

TDS and EDS are living Rent Free in People's Minds!

 

[Willie Dole]

TDS and EDS are living Rent Free in People's Minds!

"The [man] doth protest too much, methinks"

 

[Willie Dole]

Biden OPENED the Border with a stroke of a pen, and All it took was a Stroke of Donald Trump's Pen to Close the Border!

how did he open it again? didn't the SC stop his attempt to end Title 42?
and why is it bad to allow immigrants to come to America when all our families are immigrants here, regardless of skin color? or are some immigrants better than others? cuz that's not a great argument.......

 

[akaTrex]

and why is it bad to allow immigrants to come to America when all our families are immigrants here, regardless of skin color? or are some immigrants better than others? cuz that's not a great argument.......

Correction: why is it bad to allow ILLEGAL immigrants to come to America?

Simple, They BROKE the LAW! An Immigrant must enter through a PORT of ENTRY!
BIDEN's 10+ Million ILLEGALS did not enter through the Ports of Entry. Unlike the Immigrants that came here LEGALLY!

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325​

NOW Gov. of California Gavin Newsom has asked for another $2.8 BILLION for State Health Programs overwhelmed by ILLEGAL Immigrants. Medi-Cal costs are billions over estimates from last summer at a time when California is experiencing higher than expected costs for expanding coverage to undocumented Illegal Immigrants.

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