Chemical

[shane_syndrome]

So what alot of guys have been taking during there chem routine is potaba but no one really says why all i could find is , it is used for curing Peyronie

 

[shane_syndrome]

Potaba is an antifibrotic in the vitamin B family. It works by increasing the oxygen supply in tissues, which helps prevent the formation of fibrous tissue.

 

[Iguana]

I was told there was a group of people doing IGF only over on thunders and they had good results but I cant open an account over there.

There were a bunch of guys (about 10 or so), me being one of them, that were injecting IGF-1LR3 over at TPs. Honestly, the gains were not very impressive. I chalk it up to fake IGF-1. From my research I was able to determine that there are IGF-1 receptors in penile smooth muscle. So, in theory IGF-1 should be effective. I think getting the real product is the problem. It is VERY difficult and expensive. I wouldn't trust blindly getting it from some Chinese source. China is known to manufacture and export lots of fake pharmaceuticals.

Just my opinion...

 

[legdoctor]

best place to get any chemical gear for pe is StrongConnection.net
They're based in Tokyo, very reliable, real products, cheap, gets past customs.......
I got sustanon off them few years ago, jesus it was great. The have hgh etc so go for it, too many fake steroids out there.

 

[goldpen]

Pge-1 injections and pumping

Pge-1 injections and pumping

Hi, I am new to the forum and found this thread interesting. I have been pumping on and off for several years and have been using PGE-1 injections only for sex. I tried injecting and then pumping but man, did it hurt like hell and I couldn't really take it long enough to determine if it was any help. I have read on this thread that some guys are injecting PGE-1 and then pumping but I don't see how they can avoid pain. If anyone can shed light on this, i would appreciate it.
FWIW I have found that if you pump first and then inject PGE, it makes for a nice temporary gain in girth and a little in length. Not real practical but I have done it sucessfully. Not sure I want to inject the other meds suggested here but i will wait till I learn more. thanks for the help..........pen

 

[Jackxxx]

Hi, I am new to the forum and found this thread interesting. I have been pumping on and off for several years and have been using PGE-1 injections only for sex. I tried injecting and then pumping but man, did it hurt like hell and I couldn't really take it long enough to determine if it was any help. I have read on this thread that some guys are injecting PGE-1 and then pumping but I don't see how they can avoid pain. If anyone can shed light on this, i would appreciate it.
FWIW I have found that if you pump first and then inject PGE, it makes for a nice temporary gain in girth and a little in length. Not real practical but I have done it sucessfully. Not sure I want to inject the other meds suggested here but i will wait till I learn more. thanks for the help..........pen

Well if you're serious about it, you must study, and base your plans and experiments based on what is convenient an necessary, instead of what you "want" (most humans base their lives on that emotion though, hence so many dysfunctional humans)

Since you already have PGE-1, I assume it was prescribed, and you have experience with it, dosing it and injecting it. When it comes to PE, pumping while on it, won't have much effect. Yes, there is pain, but that can be controlled psychologically. Still, pumping while still hard is not the best option. Instead, heavy hanging while erected. For pumping, the most effective training would be inducing first an erection of no less than 3 hours. At minute number one when the effects of PGE-1 start subsiding, start pumping. At that point, while PGE-1 start decreasing effect, the penis after 3 hours (or more) of erection, becomes into a very elastic "rubbery" texture; easy to stretch and mold. Pumping in that stage, won't give you the pain, and you'll be able to effectively stretch length wise.

 

[Pumper]

Any progress in chemical PE?

Any progress in chemical PE?

the dosses I would use is 3mcg of caverject and 10 ius of igf ... let me know befor you start

Hi everyone.

Has anyone made progress on his chemical-PE routine?

I'm reading in several forums about DHT creams used in conjunction with exercise (jelg, traction), but cannot determine the efficacy of this approach from the evidence offered so far.

Has anyone actually received useful IGF-1 L R3 and PGE-1 from this company?:

http://strongconnection.net/index2.php?main_page=index&cPath=3

Iguana, you seem to be the most agressive and most methodical in your practice and reporting. Have you been able to find good chemicals yet? I'm eager to try myself, but you are ahead of me on this path, and I thought I would wait until I see some positive statements from you. I recall that all of this started with an abstract on the original experiments with IGF-1 (IGF-1 L R3?) and PGE-1. I don't recall the authors's name. That abstract/article was very impressive, and seemed honest/accurate. We seem to be having a lot of trouble reproducing those original results.

 

[phallic1]

If I were to rub a dab of Testosterone Cypionate onto my penis and glans and do and extended edging/ballooning session with a cock ring what does anyone think the effects would be?

Would the test cypionate convert to DHT once absorbed? Would the test absorb? I'm thinking the test will absorb. Will that much testosterone that close to my testicles cause my hypothalmic/gonadotropic axis to shut down endongenous production?

I've only ever experimented with oxandrolone and dianabol. Never injected testosterone but I've heard that Viagra ain't got nothing compared to a shot of testosterone.

 

[phallic1]

I was just doing some google research and they say not to apply topical testosterone gels to the penis, scrotum or abdomen. They don't say why though.

One of the possible side effects of topical testosterone gels (Androgel) is stated as "penis enlargement".

I know this is nothing new but it's something that I've been wondering about for a long time. Does'nt seem to be much experience or feed back to be found.

 

[Jackxxx]

Hi everyone.

Has anyone made progress on his chemical-PE routine?

I'm reading in several forums about DHT creams used in conjunction with exercise (jelg, traction), but cannot determine the efficacy of this approach from the evidence offered so far.

Has anyone actually received useful IGF-1 L R3 and PGE-1 from this company?:

Injection : StrongConnection.net

Iguana, you seem to be the most agressive and most methodical in your practice and reporting. Have you been able to find good chemicals yet? I'm eager to try myself, but you are ahead of me on this path, and I thought I would wait until I see some positive statements from you. I recall that all of this started with an abstract on the original experiments with IGF-1 (IGF-1 L R3?) and PGE-1. I don't recall the authors's name. That abstract/article was very impressive, and seemed honest/accurate. We seem to be having a lot of trouble reproducing those original results.

I don't see PGE-1 anywhere in that company you mention. Instead of imitating other's experiments based on results, I suggest educating yourself. It will be safer and healthier for you.

 

[Jackxxx]

If I were to rub a dab of Testosterone Cypionate onto my penis and glans and do and extended edging/ballooning session with a cock ring what does anyone think the effects would be?

Would the test cypionate convert to DHT once absorbed? Would the test absorb? I'm thinking the test will absorb. Will that much testosterone that close to my testicles cause my hypothalmic/gonadotropic axis to shut down endongenous production?

I've only ever experimented with oxandrolone and dianabol. Never injected testosterone but I've heard that Viagra ain't got nothing compared to a shot of testosterone.

Rubbing the ester on the skin will have very poor absorption. How much? nobody knows, and that is just one of the problems. How do you dose it? Assuming you get testosterone absorbed, yes, it will convert to DHT, but in minimum quantities. In order to increase your DHT conversion, you would need to use drugs such as Masteron or Proviron, which are DHT derivatives.

Injecting exogenous testosterone in your body, yes, will increase your libido. However, as soon as the aromatization process starts, your libido will decrease due to high estrogen levels, high SHBG levels, and possible prolactin conversion.

And FYI, exogenous Testosterone DOES NOT make your penis grow.

 

[phallic1]

Thank's Jackxxx. The reasons you've stated are why I've never bothered to try it.

I've looked into Masteron before but I don't have a source for it. Test prop and cyp I can get.

Do you know what form of test they use in the topical gels or patches and why they say do not apply to the penis or scrotum?

Is'nt Winstrol a water based DHT derivative, what are your thoughts about applying Winstrol topically?

 

[Ricky189]

Wow there is a ton of info on here to sort thru and organize....but I have some thoughts and questions I'd like to share.

I'm from Canada and can usually get anything I want.....but caverject seems hard. Anyone find any in Canada and is it known by any other name?

I want to order some IGF-1LR3 right away for bbing purposes but now intrigued about penis injections.....those who are doing it are you using regualar IGF for the shorter half life and targeted growth or LR3?

I've used lots of steroids in my day and let me advise this to anyone who is thinking of it. Educate yourself. We are here trying to improve how are cocks work but yet using steroids can f@ck that up for you for a long time even permanently. For some testosterone will definetly give you harder erections and make you horney as hell. Others you won't won't be able to get it up if your life depended on it even at low doseages and even with viagra or cialis or both at the same time. Guys have mentioned trenbolone......any compound that starts with trenbolone something(acetate, enthanate etc.) will f@ck you up worse than other steroids as will deca durabolin along with a few others. Basically the greater the gains you are likely to get the greater the sides. Maybe you can handle baldness and acne but who gives a sh*t if you are jacked like arnald but can't get it up or lose it before your finished. Been there....education and research and don't listen to your buddy and take his word for ir cuz he doesn't know what the f@ck he's talking about probably.

No way can I imagine injecting prop or cyp into your cock with a 30 guage pin.....takes long enough with a 23 guage and that would hurt like hell.

I have some test cream....legit prescription stuff....any benefit to applying it to my member and at what dose/frequency?

Anyways....I like this thread. I have been a pin cushion lots and experimented lots so I'm in. Just need to know what to do. Should I get IGF-1 or IGF-1LR3? Any other peptides I should get as I am well conected and got lots of sources here(finally) that I didn't have a while back. And I'd love to try the caverject if anyone has found somewhere that ships within Canada.

I had more to say but forgot some of what I wanted to comment on....I'll have to reread this thread and post again.

 

[Ricky189]

The place I'm getting the IGF from has something called bremelanotide (pt-141). Might give that a try since it seems like its impossible to find caverject.

 

[goldpen]

PGE-1 injections and pumping

PGE-1 injections and pumping

Hey Jackxxx, that was a helpful comment you made on PGE-1. I never thought of doing it after the erection goes down, but it makes sense because the penis is as you describe it. It also make sense for those who have to use PGE for ED because over the years, scar tissue can actually shorten it. So pumping or stretching after injection makes a lot of sense. Is this the standard procedure when using PGE-1 and are people getting results? I have read the thread but didn't find anything on results. If I missed it, sorry.

Only problem, spending 3 hours with a hard on and then time pumping. However, I could see using PGE for sex and then pumping after. Not real romantic, but possible, especailly if you knock your partner out ...which a 3 hour hard on usually does imho......couldn't resist that......any other suggestions?.........pen

 

[goldpen]

be careful with caverject/PGE-1

be careful with caverject/PGE-1

Hi, I just found the time to read this thread entirely and i noticed a lot of guys are injecting and ending up with 6-7 hours hard ons. Just my .02 but i have been injecting PGE-1 for a long long time for ED.
The urologists feel that a hard on that lasts more then 4-6 hours is unsafe and suggest visiting an emergency room if you have that happen ie priapism. The reason is that the blood is stuck in your penis for a long time and starts to clot and lose oxygen content. The loss of oxygen can damage the cells of the penis and really really mess it up. Also, when it does go down, its possible to throw a clot and have it end up in your heart or lungs although not likely given the size of the blood vessels. Still its something you all should consider when going for a boner over say 4 hours. The way they usually reverse priapism in the ER is to inject Eppy into your hard on and drain off some blood. Since most of you don't have a prescription or the benefit of a Urologist, you gotta be real careful. Just use a smaller dose to reduce duration. I can tell you after a decade of using this stuff that after 3-4 hours if Its still up and hurting, i inject Eppy to take it down and stay safe. There are even risks with this, so just use less and go for a shorter duration to save you self from some potential problems. Whats the worst that can happen if you inject less? Your boner won't last as long but you wont hurt yourself. Titrate the dose to max out at around 3 hours. FWIW..........pen

 

[Jackxxx]

Hi, I just found the time to read this thread entirely and i noticed a lot of guys are injecting and ending up with 6-7 hours hard ons. Just my .02 but i have been injecting PGE-1 for a long long time for ED.
The urologists feel that a hard on that lasts more then 4-6 hours is unsafe and suggest visiting an emergency room if you have that happen ie priapism. The reason is that the blood is stuck in your penis for a long time and starts to clot and lose oxygen content. The loss of oxygen can damage the cells of the penis and really really mess it up. Also, when it does go down, its possible to throw a clot and have it end up in your heart or lungs although not likely given the size of the blood vessels. Still its something you all should consider when going for a boner over say 4 hours. The way they usually reverse priapism in the ER is to inject Eppy into your hard on and drain off some blood. Since most of you don't have a prescription or the benefit of a Urologist, you gotta be real careful. Just use a smaller dose to reduce duration. I can tell you after a decade of using this stuff that after 3-4 hours if Its still up and hurting, i inject Eppy to take it down and stay safe. There are even risks with this, so just use less and go for a shorter duration to save you self from some potential problems. Whats the worst that can happen if you inject less? Your boner won't last as long but you wont hurt yourself. Titrate the dose to max out at around 3 hours. FWIW..........pen

Thanks for your opinion man. I am aware of those risks, and I started very carefully with it. I did all my study and research before touching this wonderful chemical. But is always useful to post these experiences for all members. And that's why I always encourage everybody to study and research first. Do not follow recommended doses you hear on a board. Take it just as reference for your own personal research. Take it slow step by step. It is your own body.

goldpen, in your experience, have you had to increase the dose of PGE-1 over the years to achieve the same effect? or still works the same as the first time with the same dose?

 

[Ricky189]

I tried pt141 for the first time yesterday. Did .5mgs and after a few hours nothing. I was curious and impatient so tried another 1mg....couple hours later.....schwing.....for about 12 hours. Even after I masterbated it was back right away. Did not go away til I had a smoke then it went away within minutes. Ive read this this stuff works different for everyone.

Just thought Id post this because it is easier to get than caverject if you dont have a prescription and you dont inject your member with it.

I am on day 2 of my IGF1LR3. 1st injection into my shoulders was fairly painless. Today into belly fat and burned like a mofo....this likely due to it being in acid. No god damn way Im injecting my cock. Besides with its half life I just dont think its going to do much if anything for localized growth.

 

[Jackxxx]

I tried pt141 for the first time yesterday. Did .5mgs and after a few hours nothing. I was curious and impatient so tried another 1mg....couple hours later.....schwing.....for about 12 hours. Even after I masterbated it was back right away. Did not go away til I had a smoke then it went away within minutes. Ive read this this stuff works different for everyone.

Just thought Id post this because it is easier to get than caverject if you dont have a prescription and you dont inject your member with it.

I am on day 2 of my IGF1LR3. 1st injection into my shoulders was fairly painless. Today into belly fat and burned like a mofo....this likely due to it being in acid. No god damn way Im injecting my cock. Besides with its half life I just dont think its going to do much if anything for localized growth.

PT-141 has no relation or similarity AT ALL with PGE-1. They are totally different chemicals with a complete different action. PT-141 is not intended to produce an erection mechanically. PT-141 acts on your brain triggering the desire or libido. It is still an experimental peptide, and the rate of success is low. Maybe you are one of the lucky ones.

 

[Ricky189]

All Im sharing is my experience the first time I used it. I understand they work completely differently but Im saying for me I had a hard on for hours....same as what I understand caverject does.

I reserached it alot before I spent my hard earned cash and it seems to have a high success rate from everything Ive read.