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IGF-2 is a member of the insulin family of polypeptide growth factors that is involved in development and growth. It is an imprinted gene and is expressed only from the paternally inherited allele. It is a candidate gene for eating disorders. There is a read-through, INS-IGF2, which aligns to this gene at the 3’ region and to the upstream INS gene at the 5’ region. Two alternatively spliced transcript variants encoding the same protein have been found for this gene.

In "layman’s" words, IGF-2 Long R3 exhibits a neuron protective effect similar to IGF-1 Long R3 and has many of the same properties that IGF-1 has. What does this mean for today’s researcher well when IGF-2 LR3 combined with IGF-1 LR3 it intensifies and creates a symbiotic relationship with IGF-1 creating a beneficial response to the two. IGF-2 also increases something called Steroidogenesis, which is the bodies’ affinity to produce its own natural hormones. Due to this affinity it also exhibits stronger fat burning properties than IGF-1 and the combination of the two seems to be profound. In terms of muscle mass IGF-2 Long R3 causes a greater transfixion assay in mouse C2C12 myoblasts. What this essentially may transpire to is that there is some sort of inhibition of myostatin derived from the combination of the two. Of course this is conjecture as there has been incredibly little research done on this peptide and it is really only found in the body during gestation so caution should be exhibited when performing research on this peptide. Was found in some researches that a dosage of around 10 to 15mcgs will prove effective to start when combined with an equal dose of IGF-1 Long R3 and increased from there on in once the rat’s body react to it. The results from this research were found to be quite remarkable.


In rodents IGF-2 Long R3 is available to all the IGF receptors not just one set of receptors as IGF-1 Long R3 does, now what are the benefit of giving CJC-1295 and GHRP-6 to a rat? Well, CJC and GHRP are a potent inducer of GH in the pituitary gland. IGF is a cell signaler and potent growth activator, now the more GH the rat has the more cell repair and growth activation that can take place within a rodent. The hypertrophy that occurs is far greater than that of just each one alone and greater than that which occurs with just IGF-1 alone. Hence the benefit.


"Below is an article from an endo journal - J Guan, CE Williams, SJ Skinner, EC Mallard and PD Gluckman Research Centre for Developmental Medicine and Biology, University of Auckland, New Zealand."

"Insulin-like growth factor (IGF)-1, IGF binding protein (IGFBP)-2, and IGFBP-3 are expressed in the rat brain in regions of neuronal loss by 3 days after hypoxic- ischemic (HI) brain injury and IGF-2 somewhat later. Central administration of rh-IGF-1 after HI injury reduces neuronal loss in vivo. To clarify the mode of action of IGF-1 and the potential role of IGFBPs, the effects of IGF-1, IGF-2, des(1-3)-N-IGF-1 (des-IGF-1), an analogue of IGF-1 with low affinity for IGFBPs, and IGF- 1 combined with IGF-2 were compared 2 h after administration into the lateral cerebral ventricle after an HI injury. Unilateral HI was induced in adult rats by right carotid artery ligation followed by 10- min exposure to 6%O2. The extent of neuronal loss was determined in the cortex, striatum, hippocampus, dentate gyrus, and thalamus 5 days later. Central administration of 20 micrograms IGF-1 (n = 17) reduced neuronal loss in all regions (P < 0.01). Neither 20 micrograms IGF-2 (n = 17), 2 micrograms des-IGF-1 (n = 10), nor 20 micrograms des-IGF-1 (n = 17) reduced neuronal loss. There was a trend towards a reduction in neuronal loss after 150 micrograms des-IGF-1 (n = 20). IGF-2 alone increased neuronal loss in the hippocampus and dentate gyrus compared with the same regions in vehicle-treated animals (P < 0.05). Coadministration of 30 micrograms IGF-2 blocked the neuroprotective effects of 20 micrograms IGF-1 (n = 18, P < 0.05) and reduced the accumulation of [3H]IGF-1 in the injured hemisphere (n = 4) (P < 0.05). These observations suggest a role for IGFBPs in targeting the neuroprotective actions of IGF-1. IGF-2 may antagonize the protective effect of IGF-1 by displacing it from IGFBPs."
 
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well i noticed about 1/4th of an inch in girth and length in the time i was on IGF ( i think just under 6 weeks , i didnt keep a proper log ... i wrote somewhere when i started) im not sure if thats natural growth or from the IGF, maybe i will see increased results in 6 months when the muscle cells mature ... in another 6 weeks im taking IGF 1 and 2
 

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I have also been looking into EGF but all i can really find is that it causes cell proliferation.


I read about a woman using it to treat a 2nd degree burn and it heald in 1.5 weeks leaving no scar
 
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Those are some pretty rapid gains, Shane. I hope they continue at such a rate.

I know you posted it earlier in this thread, but can you remind us what kind of exercises you are doing? If I remember correctly you are also doing lots of hanging/stretching.
 

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Those are some pretty rapid gains, Shane. I hope they continue at such a rate.

I know you posted it earlier in this thread, but can you remind us what kind of exercises you are doing? If I remember correctly you are also doing lots of hanging/stretching.

yes , i used an extender as much as I could and did some intence stretching and I actually jelqd as much as i felt like it ... I think i said i was keeping it around 200 but i decided to do it untill my penis felt workd .

I didnt time it or count I just wanted to make sure i felt like i ggot a good work out , and some days i used the jelq device and all i really noticed from it was a larger pump after :) but it was a pain in the ass using it.
 

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I wonder if there is a relationship between natural rapid healing and fast gains. Although I am diabetic, I heal incredibly fast, and I have made some remarkable p.e. gains in the past. Just wondering if the two might be connected. :rolleyes:
 
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I wonder if there is a relationship between natural rapid healing and fast gains. Although I am diabetic, I heal incredibly fast, and I have made some remarkable p.e. gains in the past. Just wondering if the two might be connected. :rolleyes:

this makes sence for sure bro , it might be the reason behind good gains for are younger and more athletic members becasue there bodys are more use to healing .

being diabetic might actually help becasue insulin is highly anabolic but you probably are just taking an amount where it would make it so you have natural levels , but I know for body building guys would take insulin pre workout and it would give them a major pump that would last all day or take it post work out to help with recovery ... so maybe if u wanted to make your self a guinna pig try timing your PE around your injections and see if it has any effect.
 

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so I have a place ( in the US ) that has IGF for $730 for 10 vials ...73$ a vial is saving me 50$ a vial so i think im saving up for that and injecting 6 weeks on 6 weeks off every day year long at 10mcg in my penis and 30 into each bicep
 

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I love reading this stuff you post. The more scientific, the better.

Are you a science student? Just about everything you post here has to do with molecular biology and biochemistry. I understand what you're posting because I learned these things in school, but how do you know this? Just through google and research?

Dyou mind telling me how much youve gained so far with chemical PE? I know that ONE DAY, when I'm around the age of 25 and my body stops growing, I will MAYBE experiment with chemical PE...Caverject is cool for giving your tunica a nice beating, but I've yet to hear of guys gaining really effectively with it.

IGF-1 sucks, from what I've read.

Once, I stumbled across some guy's penis blog (on a penis blog website, believe it or not...dont ask how I found that..I found it by accident)...and he posted pics of his dick. Needless to say, his cock is massive. In the description, he said: I've started Chemical Penis Enlargement 2 years ago....I have gained 3 inches in length and 2 inches in girth...and his flaccid gains are spectacular...If only I can find that guy and ask him what he's injecting....

Keep up the good work, shane. I cant wait to see some chemical PE breakthrough.
 

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thanks radio , I had gains of a half inch in the first week or so but it was just swelling i have gotten .25 in gains but im unsure if it was the IGF or regaining the size i have lost previosly.

I never had the grades in school espessially english (im dislexic) so I dont think i could get into college and univirstiy but even since a young age i have been researching differnt chemicals and how they affect the body , there are peptides to make you tan , make your dick hard , make girls horny (good luck getting them to take it) , make you taller , younger , thicker bones , stronger , taller (somtimes ) and wacky sh*t i dont even wanna think about. ( my dream job would actually to either be a pilot or chemist .

are you talking about ronnielle , he is one of the guys i have been in contact with
 

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If I recall correctly, he is a philipino guy. He *MIGHT* even be a member here. I'm not sure!! I would love to get details on that.
 

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I was told there was a group of people doing IGF only over on thunders and they had good results but I cant open an account over there.
 

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I was told there was a group of people doing IGF only over on thunders and they had good results but I cant open an account over there.

No need to go to thunders bro. The owner and some mods are a bunch of twats. I was a member there before, but the chemical PE forum was never helpful. Experimentation there is not even close to what we comment and try here.
 

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I was told there was a group of people doing IGF only over on thunders and they had good results but I cant open an account over there.

I've got an account over at TP..I'll check them out when I get a chance. Quoting people from other forums isn't a bad thing. :)

Besides, IGF doesn't look promising.
 

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I've got an account over at TP..I'll check them out when I get a chance. Quoting people from other forums isn't a bad thing. :)

Besides, IGF doesn't look promising.

Ill post the link to the thread I heard it on in the morning , i have it on my favs but its 3am and i can barly keep my eyes open , Im packing right now becasue i have a flight to catch at 8am but i got bored so i came to the PE gym.

im kind of on the fence for IGF because it does bind to smooth muscle and it makes up 50% of your penis but i dont think it is a miricule all though it should help with girth to some extent
 

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No need to go to thunders bro. The owner and some mods are a bunch of twats. I was a member there before, but the chemical PE forum was never helpful. Experimentation there is not even close to what we comment and try here.

Yes , agreed .... there are 2 typs of people into chemical PE , guys like us willing to research and know what we are putting in are bodys and guys just wanting a bigger penis so they jab them self befor doing the nessisarry research :)
 

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If I recall correctly, he is a philipino guy. He *MIGHT* even be a member here. I'm not sure!! I would love to get details on that.

could you try to find that back?

@shane

have you looked in to making your own IGF? ordering 10gr of IGF through chinese supplier and then combining it yourself? it saves a lot of money. im getting "schooled" by my supplier who brews his own brand of underground steroids, and the man makes *inrcedible* profits - hes kind of a bro, not a bad guy, and he explained me the way.

i was at the doctor the other day and discussed possibility of caver, but he was not enthousiast (as to be expected) - he sais there were serious risks for a trombose (i think hemoragge in english) and when that happens, its game over & bye bye penis

im still not convinced though and will keep looking for the miracle. at this point , im still gooing to opt for IGF after a penis pump

after all, you also inject IGF after a work-out...

take care

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I am actually getting caverject next week , and no I havnt thought about making it my self I am just getting 10 vials for 730 so thats not a bad price anyway
 

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I wish I could find caverject powder by the pound bro...LOL