Thanks for the update! So when should we be expecting more from you in this thread? I have a month until school starts again and would really like to make some progress before that happens so I can live my semester up to the fullest.
ByggD's Guide to Controlling Your Ejaculation Response
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I am not understanding your question. Have you started the week one journey? What is involved in week one is extremely important. I know it is possible I wasn't explicitly clear on a lot of items. Such as pressure to use when masturbating, complete duration of sessions, ect. Just want to be able to help you, and others. After all, if you have a question then it is very reasonable to predict there are more people with the same question. Basically, I want to know what else you are interested in? Is it the inner ab routine that I do? Kegels? Is there something in the OP that I can better explain? Let me know and I will get to work on it. FYI, I do not have internet at home. I am at the public library here. That limits my ability to respond quickly. However, you can get started on week one today. and I agree with you about the college thing. I have graduated but that doesn't mean I can't get with some sexy 21-year-olds when they come back from summer break
I think this is the perfect opportunity for me to ask a reasonable request from everyone. I spend some of my free time reading, writing, providing information, looking up scientific articles to support my claims, and then relaying that to you guys here. It is tiresome work and I only do it because it is beneficial to a large number of people here. I am only trying to help and I just request that everyone at least be a little patient with me.
Some if this is a lot of hard work. I mean, I essentially research articles that have nothing to do with the penis and then I begin to think of tangible ways that this could be applied to overcoming premature ejaculation or even accelerating my gains in penis exercises. Considering I have gained 11mm in length in six weeks, I believe my routine, mental and physical, is working.
I suffered from PreE too. If I stray away from practicing, or I don't consciously think of my arousal then I tend to get trigger happy still. So, keep in mind, that for anything I make a claim about, I research and have scientific evidence that supports my claim even if the articles seem unrelated at first glance.
Brief example: in the article below it is talking about how suppressing certain feelings can lead to a hyperaccessibility of other related feelings as well as the feeling you are trying to suppress. I read this article today; it is just made me think about how thinking about "ejaculating" actually makes you ejaculate more quickly. Clearly, this article isn't a neurobiological article but it provides more evidence to the NLP claim that you should think more positively and perhaps think about reducing your arousal level from 9...to 8...to 7 as your conscious experience is dictated by your neurphysiological responses. Anyway, sometimes it takes a lot of work to come to a conclusion. Other times it is simple. Just be patient with me. However, I welcome any question. If you knew me in real life, you would also know that I am not even too concerned with talking about these things to friends or even strangers. The problem is, some people just believe it is taboo so I don't talk to them about it. That's life, huh?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090312093916.htm
Some if this is a lot of hard work. I mean, I essentially research articles that have nothing to do with the penis and then I begin to think of tangible ways that this could be applied to overcoming premature ejaculation or even accelerating my gains in penis exercises. Considering I have gained 11mm in length in six weeks, I believe my routine, mental and physical, is working.
I suffered from PreE too. If I stray away from practicing, or I don't consciously think of my arousal then I tend to get trigger happy still. So, keep in mind, that for anything I make a claim about, I research and have scientific evidence that supports my claim even if the articles seem unrelated at first glance.
Brief example: in the article below it is talking about how suppressing certain feelings can lead to a hyperaccessibility of other related feelings as well as the feeling you are trying to suppress. I read this article today; it is just made me think about how thinking about "ejaculating" actually makes you ejaculate more quickly. Clearly, this article isn't a neurobiological article but it provides more evidence to the NLP claim that you should think more positively and perhaps think about reducing your arousal level from 9...to 8...to 7 as your conscious experience is dictated by your neurphysiological responses. Anyway, sometimes it takes a lot of work to come to a conclusion. Other times it is simple. Just be patient with me. However, I welcome any question. If you knew me in real life, you would also know that I am not even too concerned with talking about these things to friends or even strangers. The problem is, some people just believe it is taboo so I don't talk to them about it. That's life, huh?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090312093916.htm
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I think in the beginning you should stop completely. So, during week one I would stop completely for at least 15 seconds when you reach 9. When I get up to level 9 I tell myself, "Lower this *thing. 9...8...7..." then I start masturbating again but I go slower than the previous set. I say "thing" and not arousal, erection, or any sexual related term because I want to be ambiguous. Literally, you must confuse your brain.
Moreover, once you do get to seven, don't just rush to get going again, take joy in the experience that you successfully reduced your arousal level. Be happy with your progress. Seriously. I know I sound like I am in some exaggerated-hippy-induced state, but I really had to start complementing myself before I saw some impressive gains in lasting power.
I had a friend that did some of these things and he lasted 1-2 minutes years ago. Now, he can last right about 3 hours. And yes, they need lube. A couple of times they had to leave to go get lube. haha, different women of different cultures and they keep coming back to him. he is not the "sexiest" guy in the world, but women stick around a lot more often than before. I am digressing so I will just end there
Haha alright, thanks a lot for the info im going to try all this soon
Good luck. Keep me posted too. I have seen benefits from this and so has my friend. We are both pretty stressed individuals so that is likely the cause of our premature ejaculation. Although, he is completely cured from it. He has completely "updated" is brain with new "programming." I am not guaranteeing that this will work for everyone. the only way I could guarantee that is if I could see exactly what each one of you were doing and provide pointers. I must be honest, I am not interested in looking at other men masturbate for free. If it were part of a medical experiment and it was a part of my job and we had standardized parameters and such; then I would not have a problem in the name of science. Honestly, my true devotion in life is to science. That is how this world is progressing. Digressing again, time to shut up
Really appreciate the effort BD.
Gonna give it a determined shot next week.
Do you recommend abstaining from sex whilst doing this program? Or how would you incorporate sex - try to go for 6min on a 6min day; run the programm parallel??, OR ??
Gonna give it a determined shot next week.
Do you recommend abstaining from sex whilst doing this program? Or how would you incorporate sex - try to go for 6min on a 6min day; run the programm parallel??, OR ??
Thanks for the great advice and program ByggD! I'm excited to get started on week one. You mentioned in a reply you do certain kegel/reverse kegel, lower abdominal, and breathing exercises. Could you share your routine for those? And also do you incorporate those exercises into your normal penis exercising routine or separately?
Hi,
I’ve applied your advices for ten days now. To sum up : so far, it’s awesome.
First of all I’ll have to apology about the way I write. I’m new here, and I’m French, 24, and I try to improve my English skills but I’m far of being fluent.
My PreP at the beginning of my sexual life : the first time I wanted to have sex with my gf I was so excited that I came when I put the condom… and I was soft…(french lover hun ?).
I’ve read a lot of stuff about PreE, male multiple orgasm, dry orgasm… Both in French and in English : Mantak Chia books, Barbara Keesling book, web pages, ebooks material, forum and so forth. I’ve experiment a lot of way to teach my body and my brain how to last longer in bed, I’ve made a lot of mistake all along my path.
About Byggd method :
The level 7 thing is just amazing.
One of the most effective advice in Biggd post, in my opinion, is to think when you’re too excited i “I want to lower my e level to a 7”, and not “I don’t want to c”. The effect is terrific. And I can testify:
3 days ago my current gf came to my home. I haven’t seen her since a month, so one month without sex (at least in duo), and usually I live with her, so I have sex almost every day, often several time in a day. No need to say that I was a little anxious about how things (will go), cause I doesn’t want her to be disappointed. Well she came (not in that way guy, at least not yet). I was really excited, I mean even kissed her was amazing, I felt like a teenager again. We made love for a full hour (wich is pretty good for me), half blowjob and boobsjob (does that word even exist?), half intercourse, all very exciting (I don’t think that’s the word…). Anyway she came several times, finally one with me, when I was inside her. All I’ve done is apply the level 7 technique.
What I do when I masturbate:
- Blindfolded and earplugs in my ears. I just want to concentrate on : my brain, my body, what I feel ;
- Baby oil, but I like with noting to;
- Level 7 all the time, ALL THE TIME ;
- Positions : sitting, laying down, standing, on my knees
- I say out loud thing such as : “how good it is to be able to make love as long as I want” or “I can make love for hours because I’ve got a perfect control of my erection” (well, in French of course). I think this really help both to (recondition your brain), and to increase you self-confidence.
- I try 5 more minutes at each cession (I start with 20 minutes, now it’s 40’) ;
- 4 days basis routine: 2 days without coming, 1 day I blow my load, 1 day I rest. I don’t m every day because I believe that day after an ej your pe is too sensitive, and its net effective to “work” in that conditions.
- Kegel 2 day basis routine : 1 day on (40% Kegel, 60% RKegel), 1 day off (just as for workout, best way to built muscles in my opinion)
Once again, I apologies for my lack of vocabulary / grammar skills.
I think I will continue to report my impressions and progress, probably in this thread, because I’m pretty decided to stick to that technique, which seems to work with me.
I just read the updated post, and I will start week two today, but I’m a little scared with the “porn step”, because I think porn is one of the causes why I ejaculate too soon…
If you have any questions or advices, do not hesitate to contact me.
I’ve applied your advices for ten days now. To sum up : so far, it’s awesome.
First of all I’ll have to apology about the way I write. I’m new here, and I’m French, 24, and I try to improve my English skills but I’m far of being fluent.
My PreP at the beginning of my sexual life : the first time I wanted to have sex with my gf I was so excited that I came when I put the condom… and I was soft…(french lover hun ?).
I’ve read a lot of stuff about PreE, male multiple orgasm, dry orgasm… Both in French and in English : Mantak Chia books, Barbara Keesling book, web pages, ebooks material, forum and so forth. I’ve experiment a lot of way to teach my body and my brain how to last longer in bed, I’ve made a lot of mistake all along my path.
About Byggd method :
The level 7 thing is just amazing.
One of the most effective advice in Biggd post, in my opinion, is to think when you’re too excited i “I want to lower my e level to a 7”, and not “I don’t want to c”. The effect is terrific. And I can testify:
3 days ago my current gf came to my home. I haven’t seen her since a month, so one month without sex (at least in duo), and usually I live with her, so I have sex almost every day, often several time in a day. No need to say that I was a little anxious about how things (will go), cause I doesn’t want her to be disappointed. Well she came (not in that way guy, at least not yet). I was really excited, I mean even kissed her was amazing, I felt like a teenager again. We made love for a full hour (wich is pretty good for me), half blowjob and boobsjob (does that word even exist?), half intercourse, all very exciting (I don’t think that’s the word…). Anyway she came several times, finally one with me, when I was inside her. All I’ve done is apply the level 7 technique.
What I do when I masturbate:
- Blindfolded and earplugs in my ears. I just want to concentrate on : my brain, my body, what I feel ;
- Baby oil, but I like with noting to;
- Level 7 all the time, ALL THE TIME ;
- Positions : sitting, laying down, standing, on my knees
- I say out loud thing such as : “how good it is to be able to make love as long as I want” or “I can make love for hours because I’ve got a perfect control of my erection” (well, in French of course). I think this really help both to (recondition your brain), and to increase you self-confidence.
- I try 5 more minutes at each cession (I start with 20 minutes, now it’s 40’) ;
- 4 days basis routine: 2 days without coming, 1 day I blow my load, 1 day I rest. I don’t m every day because I believe that day after an ej your pe is too sensitive, and its net effective to “work” in that conditions.
- Kegel 2 day basis routine : 1 day on (40% Kegel, 60% RKegel), 1 day off (just as for workout, best way to built muscles in my opinion)
Once again, I apologies for my lack of vocabulary / grammar skills.
I think I will continue to report my impressions and progress, probably in this thread, because I’m pretty decided to stick to that technique, which seems to work with me.
I just read the updated post, and I will start week two today, but I’m a little scared with the “porn step”, because I think porn is one of the causes why I ejaculate too soon…
If you have any questions or advices, do not hesitate to contact me.
improvements,
Welcome to PEGym, Pre. Ejac. forum. Your english is quite adequate. I believe that I understood all the points that you were making and found your comments helpful and encouraging.
I am in full agreement with you on the "Level 7" routine. I have been practicing with it on and off for a few weeks now and have worked my way up to around 40 mins.
Thanks for the new word: "Boobsjob". I can visualise it quite well.
I think your blindfold and earplugs is a grand idea. It's a great way to teach you to focus on the sensations.
Best of luck during week 2. I believe that the "Porn" is optional but defer to ByggD for his informed expert opinion. Following his direction of using only audio and then moving up to only 1-3 pictures may help to desensitize the normal arousal levels usually experienced with porn. I guess the best approace is to give it a try and see what happens.
Keep posting; I'm curious to hear how you are doing and what works for you.
Au Revoir!
Welcome to PEGym, Pre. Ejac. forum. Your english is quite adequate. I believe that I understood all the points that you were making and found your comments helpful and encouraging.
I am in full agreement with you on the "Level 7" routine. I have been practicing with it on and off for a few weeks now and have worked my way up to around 40 mins.
Thanks for the new word: "Boobsjob". I can visualise it quite well.
I think your blindfold and earplugs is a grand idea. It's a great way to teach you to focus on the sensations.
Best of luck during week 2. I believe that the "Porn" is optional but defer to ByggD for his informed expert opinion. Following his direction of using only audio and then moving up to only 1-3 pictures may help to desensitize the normal arousal levels usually experienced with porn. I guess the best approace is to give it a try and see what happens.
Keep posting; I'm curious to hear how you are doing and what works for you.
Au Revoir!
Oh man, the question I knew would come up but hoped it wouldn't. Listen, in a vacuum it would be great if one would only perform the behaviors in the guideline. However, you are a human male, you want sex, need sex, and enjoy sex. So, I encourage you to have sex. Sex is healthy. Absolutely healthy. Worrying about sex is not healthy (that was me, still is sometimes). I don't want people to worry about their PreE. Worry only increases cortisol levels in the brain which cause your muscles to tense which increases the likelihood of coming too early.
When you are about to have sex. Take some deep breaths. Pay attention to your stomach and get the carbon dioxide out of the lower part of your lungs (which is why you need to take some deep breaths). Tell yourself, "I can last as long as I want to." Get your confidence up. Tell yourself that you are confident enough to perform great! Give oral to her first (I personally love giving oral sex to women). When I do, I try to focus on her and my breathing. Also, if you do have a significant other then I encourage you to incorporate sex into this routine. Most of all, you should have fun with this. Enjoy life as much as possible. I used to worry so mucha bout what others thought. I stopped doing that. Good luck.
Thanks, friend. I do kegels as part of my penis exercise routine. Also, I ride my bicycle almost everywhere and I perform kegels while I am biking as well. I hold for at least 10 seconds and generally hold for about 30-60 seconds. I don't do any kegels and I suggest everyone abstain from kegels while masturbating. The only time I will perform a kegel is if I reach level 9 and I am very close to coming. I will stop everything I am doing and tell myself to "control this" (actually, I just say "control" now; and yes, sometimes I say that out loud to myself) then I kegel hard for about 10 seconds. You should only kegel if you absolutely have to. No exceptions. Same with reverse kegeling. Only do it if you absolutely have to. I learned to reverse kegel but I rarely do it. I believe that the kegeling itself will strengthen your PC muscle and you will learn to understand this muscle over time. In terms of premature ejaculation, understanding that PC muscle is very important. Once you strengthen it enough you should notice that you are kegeling and tell yourself "control."
The lower abdominal routine is something I do in the weight room. I just do leg raises but I go very slowly. I go slow because your muscles grow based on time under tension, not the repetitive motions alone. So, I lay flat on the ground, raise my legs 6-10 inches off the ground (the up motion should be slow, about 2-3 seconds) then I hold the position, squeeze my abs for 2 seconds, then SLOWLY lower my legs, rest for about a second then repeat SLOWLY.
I also do an inner ab routine while I am biking, sitting at a computer, while I reading a book, ect. Whenever I think about it I do inner abs. Inner abs here means deep abs as in deep inside your body--the abs you cannot see. These abs are conditioned when breathing.
Deep ab routine: Sit down, feet should be flat against the ground, legs bent close to 90 degrees, back straight, chin straight. You SLOWLY!! inhale. As you inhale you "suck" your stomach in slowly (think of the movie Caddy Shack when that hot chick walks by the pool to go to the diving board and all of the guys in the pool suck in their stomach). Once you have completely inhaled you should puff out your chest, slightly bend your upper torso, which provides added tension to your deep abs. Then exhale slowly and repeat. If you perform this when you are naked and in front of a mirror you will notice that your penis moves up and you balls do as well. Your scrotum also shrinks a bit as you deeply inhale. Your inner abs are indirectly associated with your ejaculatory response based on tension. Breathing deeply will reduce tension, will get excess carbon dioxide out of your body, will increase serotonin levels (very slightly), will increase the amount of endorphins in your body, and will relieve stress. Basically, it helps all around with our stressed muscles and that exercise alone is likely to increase your staying power during sex.
First, your English is fine; far better than my french is
. I enjoyed your post and that is great news.I spent years investigating some of this material indirectly (though my education in cognitive neuroscience and nutritional psychology) and I spent hours trying to figure out how to cure my on PreE. There are books, ebooks, and other places where you have to spend money to get this advice. I do it for free because I am not interested in monetary gain here. Stories like yours is my gain.
I want to make it very clear to you and everyone else. These guidelines are not scientific. I have no evidence to make a claim that you have to do step X or you should only do step Z after you have completed step Y or that you should even do step X, Y, or Z at all. Thus, if you are worried about porn THEN DO NOT DO IT. If you are enjoying yourself without porn then there is no reason to watch it. If you do watch it, then do it fully clothed and watch the male porn star and how he is acting. You can see him look up at times and close his eyes, he will be thrusting very fast then suddenly stops, pulls out, and "decides" to change positions. You can learn a lot from the porn stars and go into with the mindset of learning. However, again, if you are nervous about adding porn then I encourage you to not begin that step. If you are nervous and you want to take that step then just calm yourself down by breathing and telling yourself to stay at level 7. Stroke more slowly and pay more attention to your body.
Early on, I would focus too much on the porn. For example, I would see the woman climb on top (which is my favorite!) and I would involuntarily kegel. I didn't know I was kegeling before but over time and after I started focusing on my own body I noticed that I kegeled a lot. So, I just monitored that area and I don't kegel as often now.
Glad to hear this is working for you.
BD,
Thanks for the reply, I found all the exercise advice really helpful and I'm definitely going to start doing those breathing exercises!
I have a quick question though about my experience with the routine. This was my second day, and I was aiming for a longer time goal. Yesterday I was able to do fifteen minutes just fine, in different positions, but having to take a break at certain points to "get back to 7". Today I went for a bit longer to 20 minutes, but experienced more urge at the beginning and found myself having to take breaks and get back to that 7 both more frequently and earlier than yesterday. This frequency subsided after a bit, once I was able to get to a 7 comfortably. But my question here is whether or not it's okay to be taking breaks? I know you said after the three minutes if we need 30 seconds, but if my body is feeling a nine at two minutes in, should I slow down to a 7 by stopping and telling myself that mentally? That's what I've been doing, but I want to make sure that it's okay to actually stop stroking while I do that. For me at least, telling myself to get back to a 7 and actually getting there does take about 20 or 30 seconds of relaxation. And while I'm asking questions, I'm just wondering if it's normal to get variation from day to day like this at first, or if it's telling me I'm doing something wrong?
Thanks again! Really appreciate all the help
Thanks for the reply, I found all the exercise advice really helpful and I'm definitely going to start doing those breathing exercises!
I have a quick question though about my experience with the routine. This was my second day, and I was aiming for a longer time goal. Yesterday I was able to do fifteen minutes just fine, in different positions, but having to take a break at certain points to "get back to 7". Today I went for a bit longer to 20 minutes, but experienced more urge at the beginning and found myself having to take breaks and get back to that 7 both more frequently and earlier than yesterday. This frequency subsided after a bit, once I was able to get to a 7 comfortably. But my question here is whether or not it's okay to be taking breaks? I know you said after the three minutes if we need 30 seconds, but if my body is feeling a nine at two minutes in, should I slow down to a 7 by stopping and telling myself that mentally? That's what I've been doing, but I want to make sure that it's okay to actually stop stroking while I do that. For me at least, telling myself to get back to a 7 and actually getting there does take about 20 or 30 seconds of relaxation. And while I'm asking questions, I'm just wondering if it's normal to get variation from day to day like this at first, or if it's telling me I'm doing something wrong?
Thanks again! Really appreciate all the help
Thanks for the reply guys,
“I guess the best approach is to give it a try and see what happens” : you’re totally right OldRocker, I’ve followed your advice, that’s why I add this post today !
“Stories like yours is my gain”, and I bet you’re gonna have a lot of stories to read because this guide is just awesome ! and I’m maybe new here, but I’m no newbie in the premature ejaculation field. Best program I’ve ever done, by far.
“I started focusing on my own body”, yeah here is the key when we add porn to our solo routine.
Just to remember: I’m a new member, I’m French, not that good in English, and I don’t have that much time to correct my posts. So I’m sorry if you face difficulties to read me.
All right, now that it’s said, here are my first impressions about the second week of the ByggD’s program !
First I would like to say that I was really afraid of this step before I actually took it. Why? Because this one implies porn.
What really helped me is that I wasn’t seeking porn. Since I’ve completely stopped I really don’t miss it at all so I took it just as it was: an exercise material, a training tool and nothing more. And I want to insist on this point, because I believe it’s crucial, just as BiggD wisely told me: if you don’t feel ready to do it, just don’t.
Previously I’ve tried the Barbara Keesling program (which by the way has really helped me to improve sexually speaking, but not as much as I wanted to). Anyway if you don’t know it yet, it’s a succession of exercises you have to follow in order to achieve multiple orgasms. And I was like: ok, I really want to achieve mmo so I vow to myself to do each exercise 5 times, no more, no less, before moving forward to the next one. And looking back then, even if it was a good intention, that was mainly a bad idea. It’s all about how YOU feel. Programs are just guidelines; you’re the only one who will cure yourself of premature ejaculation.
The point is: do it only if you’re ready. I’ve spend more than 7 days on the first week of the program, I wanted to have a perfect control in all position before moving from no audio stimuli to woman screaming in my ears while I was masturbating. As I see it the week thing is just an advice ByggD stop me if I’m wrong.
How I proceed:
- I don’t start with audio stimulation immediately: I’m blindfold, a headphone on my ears plugged to my computer with a porn video ready to play. I choose to use a headphone because in this way I’m not disturb by any parasitic noise, and that’s a good and slow transition from earplugs (which I previously used in week one), besides, that’s way more comfortable than earbuds.
- I start by bringing myself to a 7, and then I switch in every position from the easiest one to the hardest one, at least to me (laying down, sitting, on my knees, standing). To sum up I do exactly the same as in week one.
- I turn on the video only when I’m sure that I have a perfect control over myself in those 4 positions for at least 3 or 4 minutes each.
- I masturbate in the 4 positions, and I try to focus on my body (I haven’t said on my penis only) to hold a level 7 all along the way.
It was hard at first, because it’s really more difficult to control your arousal level with a woman screaming with pleasure in your ears, but don’t discourage yourself and try to focus more on you. I guess people who have premature ejaculation issues aren’t selfish enough. Besides, women are really turned on by male who are dominant and self oriented in bed.
What I’ve learned so far:
- Being uncomfortable with something s sex related (porn in this case) is probably one of the issues of people who are dealing with premature ejaculation ;
- But don’t do it wrong (like I used to when I was younger) Porn is only something that you add to work even better, not something that turn you on and then you begin to masturbate. So if you’re a little afraid first like I was, use it carefully, and don’t let it use you ;
- Every position brings different sensations, so try a lot of them, to be ready for the big day, you don’t want to be a sex god in only one position ;
- Level 7 is (still) your friend.
My progress in bed : I’ve made love to my gf for at least 2 and an half hour, but I came maybe 30 minutes after we’ve began. That the second time I have sex since I’ve began ByggD’s program, and that last one I didn’t have to think of the level 7 to control myself, at least not as often as the first time. I think my brain is already learning. Anyway, I feel that I have a great control over my body since I’ve begin that program. That’s obviously the best one I’ve ever tried. I’m feeling really really good, and my relationship with my gf is going better than ever. My little reward: she now calls me Master, and I think that’s probably a little bit related with what I’ve achieved in the past few days…
Thanks ByggD for that amazing post, you’ve really done a good work with this guide.
“I guess the best approach is to give it a try and see what happens” : you’re totally right OldRocker, I’ve followed your advice, that’s why I add this post today !
“Stories like yours is my gain”, and I bet you’re gonna have a lot of stories to read because this guide is just awesome ! and I’m maybe new here, but I’m no newbie in the premature ejaculation field. Best program I’ve ever done, by far.
“I started focusing on my own body”, yeah here is the key when we add porn to our solo routine.
Just to remember: I’m a new member, I’m French, not that good in English, and I don’t have that much time to correct my posts. So I’m sorry if you face difficulties to read me.
All right, now that it’s said, here are my first impressions about the second week of the ByggD’s program !
First I would like to say that I was really afraid of this step before I actually took it. Why? Because this one implies porn.
What really helped me is that I wasn’t seeking porn. Since I’ve completely stopped I really don’t miss it at all so I took it just as it was: an exercise material, a training tool and nothing more. And I want to insist on this point, because I believe it’s crucial, just as BiggD wisely told me: if you don’t feel ready to do it, just don’t.
Previously I’ve tried the Barbara Keesling program (which by the way has really helped me to improve sexually speaking, but not as much as I wanted to). Anyway if you don’t know it yet, it’s a succession of exercises you have to follow in order to achieve multiple orgasms. And I was like: ok, I really want to achieve mmo so I vow to myself to do each exercise 5 times, no more, no less, before moving forward to the next one. And looking back then, even if it was a good intention, that was mainly a bad idea. It’s all about how YOU feel. Programs are just guidelines; you’re the only one who will cure yourself of premature ejaculation.
The point is: do it only if you’re ready. I’ve spend more than 7 days on the first week of the program, I wanted to have a perfect control in all position before moving from no audio stimuli to woman screaming in my ears while I was masturbating. As I see it the week thing is just an advice ByggD stop me if I’m wrong.
How I proceed:
- I don’t start with audio stimulation immediately: I’m blindfold, a headphone on my ears plugged to my computer with a porn video ready to play. I choose to use a headphone because in this way I’m not disturb by any parasitic noise, and that’s a good and slow transition from earplugs (which I previously used in week one), besides, that’s way more comfortable than earbuds.
- I start by bringing myself to a 7, and then I switch in every position from the easiest one to the hardest one, at least to me (laying down, sitting, on my knees, standing). To sum up I do exactly the same as in week one.
- I turn on the video only when I’m sure that I have a perfect control over myself in those 4 positions for at least 3 or 4 minutes each.
- I masturbate in the 4 positions, and I try to focus on my body (I haven’t said on my penis only) to hold a level 7 all along the way.
It was hard at first, because it’s really more difficult to control your arousal level with a woman screaming with pleasure in your ears, but don’t discourage yourself and try to focus more on you. I guess people who have premature ejaculation issues aren’t selfish enough. Besides, women are really turned on by male who are dominant and self oriented in bed.
What I’ve learned so far:
- Being uncomfortable with something s sex related (porn in this case) is probably one of the issues of people who are dealing with premature ejaculation ;
- But don’t do it wrong (like I used to when I was younger) Porn is only something that you add to work even better, not something that turn you on and then you begin to masturbate. So if you’re a little afraid first like I was, use it carefully, and don’t let it use you ;
- Every position brings different sensations, so try a lot of them, to be ready for the big day, you don’t want to be a sex god in only one position ;
- Level 7 is (still) your friend.
My progress in bed : I’ve made love to my gf for at least 2 and an half hour, but I came maybe 30 minutes after we’ve began. That the second time I have sex since I’ve began ByggD’s program, and that last one I didn’t have to think of the level 7 to control myself, at least not as often as the first time. I think my brain is already learning. Anyway, I feel that I have a great control over my body since I’ve begin that program. That’s obviously the best one I’ve ever tried. I’m feeling really really good, and my relationship with my gf is going better than ever. My little reward: she now calls me Master, and I think that’s probably a little bit related with what I’ve achieved in the past few days…
Thanks ByggD for that amazing post, you’ve really done a good work with this guide.
Hey im new and when edging if your about to cum should you stop and then carry on or just stop completely?
Yeah, I am realizing that there are some things I need to be clearer on. If you feel yourself getting too excited early on then ABSOLUTELY STOP. I remember when I first tried this two years ago I eventually gave up and went for gold quickly. I wanted to control my ejaculation, but I also wanted that pleasure. NOW! In retrospect, I was only reinforcing the behavior I was trying to treat and I wasted quite a bit of time.
When I was doing this routine and when I became too excited at ANY POINT during my routine I would STOP COMPLETELY and relax. Sometimes my penis would just be extremely sensitive so I would wait until I lost my erection then I would get it back up about 10 minutes later. Some days I would even quit and come back later in the day. Basically, you need to do whatever it takes to get back to a 7.
For those of you who are getting really excited during sex, step back a minute and give her more oral while you breath/relax. Focus on yourself, tune into your own body, understand it. Over time, your bodily processes will become automatic and you can start to focus on her more.
It depends where you are. If it is on day two then you should stop completely. Focus on your body and understand where the tension is. When I was working at it the first couple of days I didn't understand why I was getting aroused so quick. After a day or two, I started to notice that tension builds up in my lower abs (this is why I started working on my lower abs) and I also noticed that my posture would become worse (which is why I work on deep abs). I was essentially trying to force myself to come automatically. I didn't even know it before but after I starting learning about my body I began to see how I suffered from PreE. About five days in I when I would get close to the PONR I would notice that my posture was getting worse and worse and I corrected it. This routine should teach you a lot about your body. You need to focus on your guy, where you are building up tension, then work on that area as well as your brain. Your brain is the most important sex organ. Understand that thing.
Awesome awesome post
The only comment I would really like to add is that I think the scale is too coarse. For me, self-awareness has been a critical part of my journey (which I am still on) and I have gained a hell of a lot from paying very close attention to the sensations of my arousal, both physically and psychologically. The whole "level 7" thing is right on the money for sure, but for me the levels 1-5 seem somehow inconsequential. I would prefer to think of level 5 as erect. That gives you space to understand and really feel yourself between "Ready" and BOOM. The alternative is you slowly become familar with level 9.5, then 9.25 and 9.75, smaller gradations all the time. Sure that's all good, and I do suspect those gradations are pretty much all physical, but I just think on a scale of 1-10, I consider 5 a working part of the scale, far more than just a little nudge in my pants.
Phenomenal post and fascinating conversation though. Repped - or at least it will be by the time you notice this reply
The only comment I would really like to add is that I think the scale is too coarse. For me, self-awareness has been a critical part of my journey (which I am still on) and I have gained a hell of a lot from paying very close attention to the sensations of my arousal, both physically and psychologically. The whole "level 7" thing is right on the money for sure, but for me the levels 1-5 seem somehow inconsequential. I would prefer to think of level 5 as erect. That gives you space to understand and really feel yourself between "Ready" and BOOM. The alternative is you slowly become familar with level 9.5, then 9.25 and 9.75, smaller gradations all the time. Sure that's all good, and I do suspect those gradations are pretty much all physical, but I just think on a scale of 1-10, I consider 5 a working part of the scale, far more than just a little nudge in my pants.
Phenomenal post and fascinating conversation though. Repped - or at least it will be by the time you notice this reply
