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The Deep Spot - David Shade's Masterful Lover
I heard by one of the users here that the "A spot" is also called the "Deep spot".
Reading this article, tells of a David Shade reaching this "Deep spot" with his middle finger???
I'm guessing the "Deep spot" is another spot as everybody is saying that you need a real long Willy to reach the "A spot".
Ahh here we are!!! some information about the "A spot" and its location
http://www.heretical.com/miscella/g-spots.html
The "A spot" information is at the bottom.
I heard by one of the users here that the "A spot" is also called the "Deep spot".
Reading this article, tells of a David Shade reaching this "Deep spot" with his middle finger???
I'm guessing the "Deep spot" is another spot as everybody is saying that you need a real long Willy to reach the "A spot".
Ahh here we are!!! some information about the "A spot" and its location
http://www.heretical.com/miscella/g-spots.html
The "A spot" information is at the bottom.
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"Alas, I have never been with a guy who was big enough to reach my A-spot so I have no personal experience in this area. Sounds like fun, though! I am sure we had some other people commenting on the G-spot thread about deep penetration and the A-spot, hopefully they will turn up here, too."
get a 10in. long dildo to find the A-spot a guy who is man enough to use it on you. then with your We-Vibe II in place and that 10incher buried deep you should go into orbit, Ha Ha
"Alas, I have never been with a guy who was big enough to reach my A-spot so I have no personal experience in this area. Sounds like fun, though! I am sure we had some other people commenting on the G-spot thread about deep penetration and the A-spot, hopefully they will turn up here, too."
get a 10in. long dildo to find the A-spot a guy who is man enough to use it on you. then with your We-Vibe II in place and that 10incher buried deep you should go into orbit, Ha Ha
The A spot is also known as the anterior fornix erogenous zone (AFE zone) or "epicenter" as was mentioned.
One of the "sex researchers" who has popularized the concept of the "epicenter" is one Dr. Lin. Dr. Lin and his dedicated research assistants have been slaving away at the Lin Institute's "Orgasm Research Center" delving deeply into the mysteries of the female orgasm:
Tips of female orgasm.
Be warned that this guy does peddle a lot of creams, potions, and herbal remedies along with advice. He is pretty far out, expressing opinions on the precise pressure in pounds per square inch, and cyclical stroke rates best suited to stimulate all of the various "spots" and trigger female orgasms. This link shows a picture of the position he feels works best for simultaneous stimulation of the clitoris, G-spot, and epicenter during vaginal intercourse: Theory of Sexual Orgasm: 3-Point Excitation Method 3-Point Excitation Method that simultaneously stimulates the clitoris, G-spot and Epicenter with a rhythmic pressure.. Scroll down the page to view.
Here is a link containing his advice on how to locate the epicenter and how long a penis it takes to get there: Learning Hands On
The good doctor even has some PE tips here: Hungry For More Success: What Dr. Lin Can Do For You
I have attempted to contact Dr. Lin to find out if the "Orgasm Research Center" in Boca Raton, Florida is currently hiring, but I have not yet received a response.
One of the "sex researchers" who has popularized the concept of the "epicenter" is one Dr. Lin. Dr. Lin and his dedicated research assistants have been slaving away at the Lin Institute's "Orgasm Research Center" delving deeply into the mysteries of the female orgasm:
Tips of female orgasm.
Be warned that this guy does peddle a lot of creams, potions, and herbal remedies along with advice. He is pretty far out, expressing opinions on the precise pressure in pounds per square inch, and cyclical stroke rates best suited to stimulate all of the various "spots" and trigger female orgasms. This link shows a picture of the position he feels works best for simultaneous stimulation of the clitoris, G-spot, and epicenter during vaginal intercourse: Theory of Sexual Orgasm: 3-Point Excitation Method 3-Point Excitation Method that simultaneously stimulates the clitoris, G-spot and Epicenter with a rhythmic pressure.. Scroll down the page to view.
Here is a link containing his advice on how to locate the epicenter and how long a penis it takes to get there: Learning Hands On
The good doctor even has some PE tips here: Hungry For More Success: What Dr. Lin Can Do For You
I have attempted to contact Dr. Lin to find out if the "Orgasm Research Center" in Boca Raton, Florida is currently hiring, but I have not yet received a response.
wow. there is so much awesome information here. i thought i only had 3 zones to work with. thank you all very very much.
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Dr Lin has an engineering degree. That is his doctorate, maybe that's why the pounds per square inch and exact depth penetration. He is also an outspoken critic against PE. He has sent many cult members/trolls to this site with the intention of planting doubt in the minds of impressionable newbies.
Do not be lulled by this person. His goal is to get you to buy, buy, buy.
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Do not be lulled by this person. His goal is to get you to buy, buy, buy.
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I've not had time to read all of this thread, but here's my twopenn'orth.
Something definitely exists in the upper reaches of the vagina, which, when stimulated, causes intense pleasure for the recipient. As my penis is not equipped with an on board camera, I couldn't tell you exactly what or where it is, but there is certainly one or more "hot button" up there somewhere.
I find the best position for hitting these spots is with my GF on her back, with her legs pushed back and with me entering her at an angle that runs parallel to her body. When I do this, I can feel my penis slide past her cervix (either underneath or on top of the head of my dick) and at this point she goes absolutely f*cking orgasmically mental and I end up covered in bites, scratches and bruises. Doggie style isn't bad either, but for some reason, I tend to hit rather than slide past the cervix in that position. Luckily, my GF is one of those rare women that actually like that. Missionary is ok too, but I need to be very hard to hit the spot in that position.
This all rather flies in the face of the standard "the vagina only has nerve endings in the first 2" or 3" BS that gets bandied around a hell of a lot when discussions about penis size break out. I call it BS because I know from experience that it isn't true. It's always a little tough dealing with that sort of thing, because to argue against the point, you need to reveal that you have a large penis (which most people think is either boastful or a lie) or, if it is a woman making the point, then the logical conclusion is that she has never experienced a long enough penis to allow such stimulation, or, if she has, the owner didn't know how to use it.
Something definitely exists in the upper reaches of the vagina, which, when stimulated, causes intense pleasure for the recipient. As my penis is not equipped with an on board camera, I couldn't tell you exactly what or where it is, but there is certainly one or more "hot button" up there somewhere.
I find the best position for hitting these spots is with my GF on her back, with her legs pushed back and with me entering her at an angle that runs parallel to her body. When I do this, I can feel my penis slide past her cervix (either underneath or on top of the head of my dick) and at this point she goes absolutely f*cking orgasmically mental and I end up covered in bites, scratches and bruises. Doggie style isn't bad either, but for some reason, I tend to hit rather than slide past the cervix in that position. Luckily, my GF is one of those rare women that actually like that. Missionary is ok too, but I need to be very hard to hit the spot in that position.
This all rather flies in the face of the standard "the vagina only has nerve endings in the first 2" or 3" BS that gets bandied around a hell of a lot when discussions about penis size break out. I call it BS because I know from experience that it isn't true. It's always a little tough dealing with that sort of thing, because to argue against the point, you need to reveal that you have a large penis (which most people think is either boastful or a lie) or, if it is a woman making the point, then the logical conclusion is that she has never experienced a long enough penis to allow such stimulation, or, if she has, the owner didn't know how to use it.
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I think there is something in what you say, but I'm doubtful that it applies to women universally. Just as some women seem to respond to stimulation of the so-called G-spot and others do not, I think there are women who respond orgasmically to deep vaginal stimulation and many that don't.
I too have had female partners who liked cervical contact, but most didn't or were indifferent to it (at best), and those who did didn't necessarily always like it, or liked it only at certain phases of their menstrual cycle. I've had three partners (a distinct minority) who were very orgasmic vaginally, and they all seemed to like deep vaginal stimulation, and in all three I could feel myself pressing and stretching slightly some structure at the depth of their vaginas. Like you, I really don't know if this was the anterior fornix area or the posterior fornix (cul-de-sac) area. For me, they seemed to prefer a cowgirl position, or a lap sitting position facing (like the Dr Lin photo), although one frequently came doggy style as well. But usually these positions that provided deep penetration also involved a lot of close pelvic contact and pressure, so who is to say that it wasn't indirect clitoral stimulation that was responsible for their orgasms?
I did have one partner off and on for about three years who was crazily in love with another guy who she was hoping would eventually propose to her. She would tend to hook up with me whenever she has a falling out with her main squeeze, which was not infrequent. She was very vaginally orgasmic and came nearly every time with vaginal intercourse. She did tell me that she had an easier time getting off with me than she did with him, and thought it was because I was a bit longer.
Most of the other partners I had would at least occasionally orgasm with vaginal intercourse without simultaneous direct clitoral stimulation, but not regularly. And in those in whom I did feel like I was "bottoming out" not all seemed to like it and others seemed indifferent to it.
The argument is frequently made that all women have a G-spot, but many just haven't found it yet. And one can argue that all women have these deep vaginal pleasure zones but they just haven't been with a guy long enough to reach them, or if they have been, he didn't last long enough or know how to properly stimulate them. Based on my experience, I don't buy that. I just think that women are quite different in their sexual response in general, and what best triggers orgasm specifically.
I too have had female partners who liked cervical contact, but most didn't or were indifferent to it (at best), and those who did didn't necessarily always like it, or liked it only at certain phases of their menstrual cycle. I've had three partners (a distinct minority) who were very orgasmic vaginally, and they all seemed to like deep vaginal stimulation, and in all three I could feel myself pressing and stretching slightly some structure at the depth of their vaginas. Like you, I really don't know if this was the anterior fornix area or the posterior fornix (cul-de-sac) area. For me, they seemed to prefer a cowgirl position, or a lap sitting position facing (like the Dr Lin photo), although one frequently came doggy style as well. But usually these positions that provided deep penetration also involved a lot of close pelvic contact and pressure, so who is to say that it wasn't indirect clitoral stimulation that was responsible for their orgasms?
I did have one partner off and on for about three years who was crazily in love with another guy who she was hoping would eventually propose to her. She would tend to hook up with me whenever she has a falling out with her main squeeze, which was not infrequent. She was very vaginally orgasmic and came nearly every time with vaginal intercourse. She did tell me that she had an easier time getting off with me than she did with him, and thought it was because I was a bit longer.
Most of the other partners I had would at least occasionally orgasm with vaginal intercourse without simultaneous direct clitoral stimulation, but not regularly. And in those in whom I did feel like I was "bottoming out" not all seemed to like it and others seemed indifferent to it.
The argument is frequently made that all women have a G-spot, but many just haven't found it yet. And one can argue that all women have these deep vaginal pleasure zones but they just haven't been with a guy long enough to reach them, or if they have been, he didn't last long enough or know how to properly stimulate them. Based on my experience, I don't buy that. I just think that women are quite different in their sexual response in general, and what best triggers orgasm specifically.
I hear what you are saying, but my point (probably not as well made as it should have been) was not that all women enjoy or can get off on stimulation of the deep structures, but that the claim that there are no or very few nerve endings beyond the first 2 or 3 inches of the vagina is manifestly false. I would argue that the nerve endings are (excepting anatomical anomalies) universally present in those areas, but some women love having those nerve endings stimulated, some hate it and some are ambivalent. That is a different matter altogether.
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I think a lot of the "few nerve endings beyond the first 2 or 3 inches" came from either Masters and Johnson or Kinsey (I think the former) and as I recall, they based this on putting women up in stirrups and stimulating various parts of the vagina with a cotton-tip applicator (Q-tip) introduced at various depths into the vagina, then recording the woman's subjective reports of sensation, or lack thereof.
I think this proves conclusively that most women don't particularly get off on being put up in stirrups and being stimulated deep within the vagina with cotton-tip applicators, but it proves little else.
I think this proves conclusively that most women don't particularly get off on being put up in stirrups and being stimulated deep within the vagina with cotton-tip applicators, but it proves little else.
Quite.
Well, the experiment was obviously flawed in its conception, because by using a Q tip, the experiment was only capable of investigating the presence and response of those nerve endings that are receptive to "tickling" stimulus and/or light pressure over a very small area. Clearly, the stimuli involved in penile penetration are somewhat different and encompass rubbing, pushing, prodding, grinding and pulsing - all of which are fairly vigorous and not concentrated on a single small spot. Moreover, the act of enthusiastic penetration of the vagina with a solid but pliable object of reasonable size also brings other nearby anatomical structures into the mix, such as the rectum, the uterus and the bladder, all of which have their part to play.
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Yes, there are different types of sensory transducers (receptors) and they are very modality specific. Some sense only painful stimuli (nociceptors), others heat or cold (thermoreceptors) and others mechanical stimuli of different types (mechanoreceptors).
There are many different types of mechanoreceptors and they also tend to respond only to a specific type of stimulus. Some respond to light touch, some stretch, some pressure, etc. A cotton-tipped swab would be expected only to excite light touch receptors. But if there are deep vaginal zones that provide erogenous sensations, they would almost certainly be stretch and pressure sensitive and would not be expected to respond to light touch.
There are many different types of mechanoreceptors and they also tend to respond only to a specific type of stimulus. Some respond to light touch, some stretch, some pressure, etc. A cotton-tipped swab would be expected only to excite light touch receptors. But if there are deep vaginal zones that provide erogenous sensations, they would almost certainly be stretch and pressure sensitive and would not be expected to respond to light touch.
When the girl is on her back does it help to have her legs raised? I have been doing quite a bit of this position and my penis is 7" long. i measure without pressing in to the bone, I'm sorry I do not know the term for it. I do not think I have hit this "A-spot" but I always have her legs up around my shoulders.
Its my favorite position because I can grip her hips and I have my feet planted and I can really giver
. I have made girls squirt this way, and usually orgasm, but I have never felt my penis slide under or over anything, and the orgasms seem to be pretty much the same as in other positions so I am assuming I've yet to cause an "A=spot" orgasm. So does it matter what position her legs are in?
Its my favorite position because I can grip her hips and I have my feet planted and I can really giver
. I have made girls squirt this way, and usually orgasm, but I have never felt my penis slide under or over anything, and the orgasms seem to be pretty much the same as in other positions so I am assuming I've yet to cause an "A=spot" orgasm. So does it matter what position her legs are in?I assume that you are talking about a missionary position in which the woman's legs are up over your shoulders? I have heard this called many different names. This site calls it "the Folded Deck Chair": Folded Deck Chair Sex Position (caution: these sites are not "pornographic" but contain some graphic photos and GIF animations). This position really does allow very deep penetration. Frankly, it has never worked to well for me because most of the women I have tried it with either complained of me going too deep, or weren't flexible enough to be comfortable for very long.
I have had better luck with having the woman lie on her back at the edge of the bed and enter her standing while supporting her legs. This allows you to raise her legs up slowly as high as is comfortable for her, and you can get pretty deep if you lean in, but not quite as deep as the other. Here is another variation that does not require her to have her hips flexed up so high: Deep Stick Sex Position.
This link has some photographic depictions of positions which provide for deep vaginal penetration: Positions for deep penetration. The second photo in the top row shows the same position as the first link. What has worked best for me with the partners I have had who were quite vaginally orgasmic were those two shown in the middle of the bottom row. I generally found the "cowgirl lap dance" position more comfortable sitting in a chair or on a narrow footstool than in a bed. Either this position or the typical cowgirl allows for pretty deep penetration when the woman bears down on you, and having a pillow or two under your butt may allow you to get just a little deeper. It lets her better control the depth of penetration if you are getting a little too deep for comfort.
Good old doggy style lets you get pretty deep too, sometimes too deep if you are a bit long, as you are. I had one partner who usually always had vaginal orgasms this way.
I have had better luck with having the woman lie on her back at the edge of the bed and enter her standing while supporting her legs. This allows you to raise her legs up slowly as high as is comfortable for her, and you can get pretty deep if you lean in, but not quite as deep as the other. Here is another variation that does not require her to have her hips flexed up so high: Deep Stick Sex Position.
This link has some photographic depictions of positions which provide for deep vaginal penetration: Positions for deep penetration. The second photo in the top row shows the same position as the first link. What has worked best for me with the partners I have had who were quite vaginally orgasmic were those two shown in the middle of the bottom row. I generally found the "cowgirl lap dance" position more comfortable sitting in a chair or on a narrow footstool than in a bed. Either this position or the typical cowgirl allows for pretty deep penetration when the woman bears down on you, and having a pillow or two under your butt may allow you to get just a little deeper. It lets her better control the depth of penetration if you are getting a little too deep for comfort.
Good old doggy style lets you get pretty deep too, sometimes too deep if you are a bit long, as you are. I had one partner who usually always had vaginal orgasms this way.
I talked about this with my gf lastnight and wanted to try to find it on her, I'm 8.5bpel and she already complains about it being too long in any position so I should be able to find it with her help
When the girl is on her back does it help to have her legs raised? I have been doing quite a bit of this position and my penis is 7" long. i measure without pressing in to the bone, I'm sorry I do not know the term for it. I do not think I have hit this "A-spot" but I always have her legs up around my shoulders.
Its my favorite position because I can grip her hips and I have my feet planted and I can really giver
The position that works best for us is with m'lady on her back with her legs spread, pushed back and with her knees up round her ears. I enter her quite flat, with my cockrunning parallel to the line of her body. This gets really deep penetration, but also puts pressure on the front wall of her vagina, which, i suspect, also stimulates her G spot.
