Venous Leak Symptoms And Cures

[NSF001]

Under the cautious eyes of the well-versed moderators and more experienced PE members of this forum, I suggest that you should try the following to see if it helps your situation:

1. Warm up your penis for 10 minutes with heated rice sock or a warm mois towel: gets the blood flowing and all that.
2. Perform light jelqs for 3-5 minutes. By light jelqs I mean a light grip on an erection level that you can achieve.
3. Perform about 20-30 kegels (hold for no more than 1-second). Don't go overboard even if you have teh capacity
4. Warm down for another 10 minutes.

If your penis is sore, cut down the number of jelqs and kegels. This is where you have to use your judgement.

Try doing this every alternate day.

On another note, have you considered using cock rings?

 

[Big Al]

Under the cautious eyes of the well-versed moderators and more experienced PE members of this forum, I suggest that you should try the following to see if it helps your situation:

1. Warm up your penis for 10 minutes with heated rice sock or a warm mois towel: gets the blood flowing and all that.
2. Perform light jelqs for 3-5 minutes. By light jelqs I mean a light grip on an erection level that you can achieve.
3. Perform about 20-30 kegels (hold for no more than 1-second). Don't go overboard even if you have teh capacity
4. Warm down for another 10 minutes.

If your penis is sore, cut down the number of jelqs and kegels. This is where you have to use your judgement.

Try doing this every alternate day.

On another note, have you considered using cock rings?

Great advice!

JoeCool21,

Did your doc have any particular suggestions?

You may want to look into supplements like "Butcher's Broom" and "horse Chestnut"- both are known for helping with venous issues.

 

[TechGuy]

I'm posting back on this thread because this is where Dr. Hsu was discussed. He's a long time researcher and surgeon in Taiwan and is also a member of the International Society for Sexual Medicine (ISSM). His website talks about their experimental procedure for correcting venous leaks, and includes studies that show very good success rates.

I recently had a discussion with a member of Thunder's who also experienced the "soft glans" issue. He did a lot of research on this and other PE induced injuries, and had an email correspondence with Dr. Hsu, in which he made what I thought were a few interesting comments. One was that he said people should always give the injury a good amount of time to heal on its own, up to 12 months before considering any surgical intervention. So if it appeared that certain posters were "pushing" his surgical services, he certainly does not seem to be doing so. Second was that he made a comment to the effect that PE was "theoretically sound." Not something you'll hear from a lot of urologists. However, he also said that he considered jelqing one the most potentially damaging techniques in PE and recommended using other techniques. Wish he had said which methods he favored. Just passing on what I've heard.

 

[JonPop]

"However, he also said that he considered jelqing one the most potentially damaging techniques in PE and recommended using other techniques."

TechGuy. This is a very damning statement. Even though you are quoting Dr. Hsu.

Without further explanation, you don't just casually throw this type of thing out on a PE forum.
If you want to delve deeper into this and post your findings, I will not give you a bad rep point.
We have enough scare tactics thrown at us here, without you adding fuel to the fire. (jP

 

[TechGuy]

"However, he also said that he considered jelqing one the most potentially damaging techniques in PE and recommended using other techniques."

TechGuy. This is a very damning statement. Even though you are quoting Dr. Hsu.

Without further explanation, you don't just casually throw this type of thing out on a PE forum.
If you want to delve deeper into this and post your findings, I will not give you a bad rep point.
We have enough scare tactics thrown at us here, without you adding fuel to the fire. (jP

JonPop - I'm quite sorry that you consider this "damning" but I do not believe that ANY of my posts were casually thrown out. I gave a great deal of thought to every post I made relating to any serious topic such as injury. Dr. Hsu was discussed directly and indirectly on this thread and I am posting relevant information that I recently received. I included the full context and source of the statement, and people can draw their own conclusions based on that. If that earns me a bad rep point, that's your choice, as is deleting the post. But if bullshit scare tactics have become so out of hand that we can't post legitimate information and quotes, then I'll be just as happy being banned and not wasting any more of my time or anyone else's.

Regards,
TG

 

[JonPop]

Whoa buddy, back off. All I am asking is that if you throw out a statement such as Jelqing is potentially the most damaging exercise in PE, then I am only asking you to tell us why. You don't just put a quote here and walk off from it. (jP

 

[TechGuy]

Whoa buddy, back off. All I am asking is that if you throw out a statement such as Jelqing is potentially the most damaging exercise in PE, then I am only asking you to tell us why. You don't just put a quote here and walk off from it. (jP

JonPop - I certainly didn't walk off from it, as I've posted twice since then. Are you asking me to tell you why I posted it, or why Dr. Hsu considers it to be the most damaging?

 

[JonPop]

You state that Dr. Hsu has been discussed directly and indirectly on this thread. The ONLY poster to discuss Dr. Hsu, is TechGuy. Yes, I went back and read every post in this thread. Since you are so familiar with Dr. Hsu, please explain to us why he considers it to be the most damaging. (jP

 

[calixto]

I hope he tells us JP!, I am interested, and I know TechGuy has made some great posts, and has quite a good post about pumping that I might like to turn into an article later on, or at least meld it with my personal experience.

 

[TechGuy]

You state that Dr. Hsu has been discussed directly and indirectly on this thread. The ONLY poster to discuss Dr. Hsu, is TechGuy. Yes, I went back and read every post in this thread. Since you are so familiar with Dr. Hsu, please explain to us why he considers it to be the most damaging. (jP

No JonPop, I was not the ONLY one. Big Al was the first to bring Hsu into the thread, but indirectly. My most recent post was VERY relevant to that. As to why he said that, I wish I had that answer myself. If I did, it might influence my decision to introduce or not introduce jelqing back into my routine.

 

[calixto]

So what IS your current routine Techguy?

 

[TechGuy]

Warmup, 2-3 sets of 10 or 15 minutes pumping at 4hg with massage in between. Kegels and edging.

 

[JonPop]

There's also the more aggressive VL posts coming from those recommending corrective surgery from some doc in Shanghai for "only" $10K. Maybe they're working together :thumbs_down:

You explain to me just exactly where Big Al brought Dr. Hsu into this thread.
His eluding to some doc in Shanghai, was enough reason for you to start spouting Dr. Hsu?
You have become an advocate of his practices.
Your answer on why you posted what you did about the Jelq, does not answer my question. I say again, you are damning without any evidence.
Bad rep point for you. (jP

 

[TechGuy]

Well, you seem to have found exactly where Big Al referred to him. I asked Al via PM and he confirmed he was referring to Hsu, so I again claim that my post was very relevant. I am not spouting or advocating anything. If Hsu isn't relevant on a thread on venous leaks, then we may as well not even discuss it. The fact that Hsu doesn't like the jelq, and I reported his comment is enough to give me a bad rep point? I got a PM with a warning, saying I was bullshitting and being stubborn. Jesus, not that is bullshit.

Okay guys, this will be my last post on this site.

Good luck and happy PE'ing.

Cheers,
TG

 

[calixto]

Oh man, come on now, don't do that!

 

[JonPop]

TechGuy. First of all what you said about my PM was taken out of context. My whole point of these posts was to get you simply to explain what you said.
But you would rather get your back up and quit the forum, rather than offer any explanation. This is because you knew you were wrong and were just too stubborn to admit it.
And further more, don't say Jesus is bullshit. You won't have to worry about quitting. Good bye. (jP

 

[mattheckstall]

Just to clarify, venous leak means you can't hold an erection, stimulation or no stimulation, or what, you can manipulate your veins with your hands? Stop spreading ignorant messages that get people all paranoid, if your penis goes limp after you stop touching it, it means it has becomes too used to your hand, you need to stop masturbating and after a couple of months it WILL come back to normal, I've done it.

 

[fatalbazuka]

Just to clarify, venous leak means you can't hold an erection, stimulation or no stimulation, or what, you can manipulate your veins with your hands? Stop spreading ignorant messages that get people all paranoid, if your penis goes limp after you stop touching it, it means it has becomes too used to your hand, you need to stop masturbating and after a couple of months it WILL come back to normal, I've done it.

What problems were you having, and how long did it take to come back to 'normal'

 

[LivingLarge]

so if yours veins are more noticable, would that indicate a venous leak?

 

[S1ngleUSMC]

Okay, to make this quick. Has anyone here ever had this problem? Im 24 and been told by my primary care provider that I have ED, except from the research Ive done on ED it doesnt match up.
The only way I seem to be able to get and maintain "hard" erections is in certain positions. When I say certain positions I mean..CERTAIN. Like If I want to get myself hard sitting here at my desk while watching porn for example. I could easily drop trou, pull it out and go at it but I wont get a "good" hard erection. It will grow slight larger but will just hang there, wont stand up. Now If I lean back, scoot my butt to the edge of my seat and get in that "certain" position. My penis will grow and get rock hard, but if i move slightly out of that position It will die down without hesitation. As you can see this makes it very difficult to have sex. Levitra or any other drugs similar to do not work on me unless Im in that position. I cannot seem to get erections at all while standing.
I would also like to NOTE that while in that seated position since it seems to be easiest to get erections in that position, I know when im in the right position because my toes always go numb while my penis is getting rock hard. So venous leak? or any other thoughts?

I do have a history of back and neck problems, though I always thought my back pain and spasms contributed to my "ED." I was proved wrong when i figured out my "positional" erection problem.

Any input is greatly appreciated.
Oh and as far as health goes. Im active, fit, blood tests are all above ideal for my age. (cholesterol, LDL/HDL, negative on diabetes, etc..) Ive had the entire workup done. Questions feel free to ask.